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Page 1 IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF INDIANA
.
HAMMOND D IV IS IO N
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
P la in tiff,
NO. HCR 9 2 -1 1 3
vs.
LEE ANDREW EDWARDS,
JAMES DAVIS, a / k / a James
J e ffe r ie s , a /k /a L i t t l e
Jam es, and LYNETTA P. DURR
i
D e fe n d a n ts .
T r i a l i n th e above e n t i t l e d cause was resum ed b e fo r e
th e HONORABLE RUDY LOZANO, Judge o f s a id C o u r t, and a j u r y , a t
th e F e d e r a l B u i l d i n g , 507 S ta te S t r e e t , Hammond, I n d ia n a , on th e
1 1 th d a y o f M a rc h , 1 9 9 3 , com m encing a t th e h o u r o f 8 :4 5 a .m .
APPEARANCES:
MR. DANIEL L . BELLA,
A s s i s t a n t U n ite d S ta te s A t t o r n e y ,
1001 M a in S t r e e t , S u ite A ,
D y e r, In d ia n a 46311
on b e h a lf o f th e G o v e rn m e n t;
U .S .6 A - 7 t h Circuit
FI LED
AUG - 2 199S C B
VOLUME 4
TH O M A S F. S TR U B B E
CLERK
DOC. # _________________
k
DANIEL J . SULLIVAN
O FFIC IA L COURT REPORTER - U. S. DISTRICT COURT
507 STATE STREET, HAMMOND, INDIANA 46320

Page 2 APPEARANCES ( C o n t 'd )
MR. BENJAMIN S. JACKSON,
442 N o r th C a lu m e t, S u ite 2 0 0 ,
C h e s te r to n , In d ia n a 46304
on b e h a lf o f d e fe n d a n t Lee A ndrew E d w a rd s ;
MR. ROBERT TRUITT,
55 S o u th F r a n k lin S t r e e t ,
V a lp a r a is o , In d ia n a 4 6 383 ,
on b e h a lf o f d e fe n d a n t James D a v is ;
MR. JOHN MCGRATH,
1108 W est 1 3 3 rd A v e n u e ,
C edar L a k e , In d ia n a 46303 ,
on b e h a lf o f d e fe n d a n t L y n e t t a P. D u r r ;
D e fe n d a n ts P re s e n t i n
P e rs o n
DANIEL J . SULLIVAN
O F FIC IA L COURT REPORTER - U. S. DISTRICT COURT
507 STATE STREET, HAMMOND, INDIANA 46320

Page 3 430
( C o u r t opened a t 8 :4 5 a .m . w i t h o u t th e
p r e s e n t i n open c o u r t . )
1
ju r y
2
THE COURT:
3
4
M r. T r u i t t ,
d id y o u g e t a n y c a s e s o r a n y
a u th o r ity ?
MR. TRUITT:
5
I d id n o t ,
Y our H o n o r.
6
l i b r a r y was c lo s e d l a s t e v e n in g ,
7
a u th o r ity ,
8
m a te r ia l.
I g e t some
I w i l l w ith d r a w my m o tio n f o r a d d i t i o n a l 3500
THE COURT:
9
so u n t i l
The la w s c h o o l
A ny o b j e c t i o n
to
10
MR. JACKSON:
No o b j e c t i o n .
1
1
MR. McGRATH:
No.
12
THE COURT:
13
M r. B e l l a ,
th e m o tio n ?
Y o u r H o n o r.
M o tio n t o w ith d r a w i s
g r a n te d .
I was a d v is e d b y th e — b y my c l e r k
14
y o u have tw o 30 —
15
c o n fu s e d , why d o n 't we have one o f them c h a n g e d .
16
know t h a t i t ' s
17
it 's
r e a lly
So t h a t th e
n e c e s s a ry t o do t h a t i n
Y e s, Y o u r H o n o r.
was in t r o d u c e d w h ic h was th e c a s s e t t e
20
p la y e d t o
21
to
22
t h a t G o ve rnm ent E x h i b i t 46 a t t h i s
24
25
I d o n 't
f r o n t o f th e
ju r y ,
The l a s t e x h i b i t t h a t
19
th e
ju r y ,
th e C o u r t.
23
r e c o r d do es n o t g e t
j u s t a t a g g in g .
MR. BELLA:
18
4 5 's ?
th a t
r e c o r d in g t h a t was
I m is t a k e n ly m arked 45 and I
I ask p e r m is s io n on th e
re c o rd to
a p o lo g iz e
re m a rk
t im e .
THE COURT:
Do y o u w a n t t o m ark th e t r a n s c r i p t th e n
MR. BELLA:
Y e s , Y o u r H o n o r.
4 6A?

Page 4 431
1
THE COURT:
A ny o b je c t io n ?
2
MR. TRUITT:
No o b j e c t i o n
3
fro m d e fe n d a n t D a v is ,
H o n o r.
4
MR. McGRATH:
No o b j e c t i o n .
5
MR. JACKSON:
No o b j e c t i o n .
6
THE COURT:
7
and n o t h a v in g t o
8
p ro c e d u re ?
go i n
No o b j e c t i o n
ju r y
to
h e re
th a t
as a r o u t i n e
h o u s e k e e p in g m a t t e r .
No o b j e c t i o n .
12
MR. JACKSON:
No o b j e c t i o n .
13
THE COURT:
And M r. B e l l a .
14
MR. BELLA:
No o b j e c t i o n .
15
THE COURT:
O kay.
16
is
17
was 45A i s
now 4 6 .
r e c o r d in g w h ic h was 45
t h a t c a s s e tte
r e c o r d in g w h ic h
now 46A.
M r. T r u i t t —
a u th o r ity
The c a s s e t t e
The t r a n s c r i p t t o
I
th in k
it
was yo u — y o u had some
t h a t y o u have f o r my la w c le r k ?
20
MR. TR U ITT:
21
THE COURT:
22
j u s t d o in g i t
t o d o in g i t
MR. McGRATH:
19
to
f r o n t o f th e
11
18
Y o u r H o n o r.
And any o b j e c t i o n
MR. TR U ITT:
9
10
Your
Y e s, Y o u r H o n o r.
M r. J a c k s o n , y o u 'r e w it h d r a w in g y o u r t h r e e
i n s t r u c t i o n s w it h o u t th e c i t a t i o n s ?
23
MR. JACKSON:
24
THE COURT:
25
MR. JACKSON:
T h a t 's
c o rre c t.
Y o u r H o n o r.
One, tw o and th r e e ?
One, tw o and t h r e e .

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1
THE COURT:
2
A n y th in g e ls e we need c o v e r b e fo r e we c a l l th e
3
They a re w ith d r a w n .
down?
4
MR. BELLA:
No, Y o u r H o n o r.
5
THE COURT:
C a ll th e j u r y .
(The j u r y w ere e s c o r te d i n t o
and th e t r i a l was resum ed i n
r e p o r te d
as f o l l o w s : )
6
7
THE COURT:
8
You may be s e a te d .
THE COURT:
10
11
to m o rro w .
12
th e
13
ta lk in g
ju r y
M r. B e l l a ,
th e c o u r tr o o m ,
open c o u r t ,
C o u n s e l.
(B ench d is c u s s io n on th e
9
re c o rd .)
y o u s a id y o u e x p e c te d t o
U nder th o s e c ir c u m s ta n c e s , w o u ld t h i s
ca se go t o
a b o u t?
MR. BELLA:
I w o u ld a g re e w i t h
15
THE COURT:
Does a n y b o d y have any o b j e c t i o n
16
my t e l l i n g
17
la te r
18
t o do a t 3 :3 0 .
19
w ant to
20
p la n s ,
th e
ju r y
th a n 3 :3 0 ?
th a t.
Y o u r H o n o r.
to ,
one,
t h a t to m o rro w th e y w i l l be e x c u s e d no
Because I have a n o th e r m a t t e r t h a t I have
The case w i l l p o s s i b l y go i n t o
l e t them know so t h a t th e y can —
th e y d o n 't have t o ,
21
MR. JACKSON:
22
MR. TR U ITT:
T h a t'S
if
Monday b u t I
th e y have
yo u know , change th e m .
fin e .
Y o u r H onor
I w o u ld a g re e w i t h
th a t.
Y o u r H o n o r.
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
23
25
fin is h
to m o rro w , a ss u m in g fro m th e tim e t h a t y o u 'r e
14
24
ju r y
THE COURT:
Good m o rn in g ,
w a n te d t o a d v is e y o u t h a t f o r
l a d ie s
and g e n tle m e n .
to m o rro w i n
I
ca se a n y o f y o u

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ANDREWS - DIRECT
1
had a n y p la n s , we a re n o t g o in g t o
2
to m o rro w and i t
3
lik e
4
p e o p le have p la n s f o r th e w eekend.
5
c ir c u m s ta n c e , y o u ' l l be g o in g home to m o rro w e i t h e r a t 3 :3 0
6
o r b e fo r e
7
to ,
m ig h t be a l i t t l e
t o kee p j u r i e s
th a t,
go an y l a t e r
b it e a r lie r .
on F r id a y s v e r y l a t e
no l a t e r
th a n 3 :3 0
I d o n 't
b e ca u se o f t e n t im e s
So t h a t u n d e r a n y
th a n 3 :3 0 th o u g h .
I
j u s t w a n te d
y o u know , keep you a d v is e d .
8
M r. B e l l a ,
c a l l y o u r n e x t w it n e s s .
9
MR. BELLA:
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
10
THE COURT:
P le a s e be s e a te d , p u l l y o u r c h a i r u p ,
1
1
spe ak d i r e c t l y
in to
12
e v e ry b o d y may h e a r .
th e m ic ro p h o n e lo u d enough so t h a t
You may p ro c e e d ,
13
T im o th y A n d re w s .
c o u n s e l.
TIMOTHY ANDREWS
14
c a l l e d as a w itn e s s b y th e G o v e rn m e n t, b e in g f i r s t d u ly O
s w o rn t o t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t
th e t r u t h , was e xa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d as f o l l o w s :
15
16
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY
MR. BELLA:
17
18
19
Q
W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ?
20
A
T im o th y A n d re w s .
21
Q
And w o u ld yo u s p e l l y o u r l a s t name?
22
A
A -N -D -R -E -W -S .
23
Q
W hat i s
24
A
An I n d ia n a S ta te P o lic e
25
Q
O f f i c e r A n d re w s , d i d y o u have o c c a s io n t o m eet an
y o u r o c c u p a t io n ,
s ir ?
o f f ic e r .

Page 7 434
ANDREWS - DIRECT
1
i n d i v i d u a l b y th e name o f W a lte r P e t t ig r e w b a c k i n M a rch o f
2
1990?
3
A
Y e s.
4
Q
And d r a w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n
t o M arch 2 3 , 1 9 9 0 ,
5
me w h a t y o u r a c t i v i t i e s
6
m e e tin g w i t h h im and o t h e r la w e n fo rc e m e n t a g e n ts ?
7
A
I a s s is t e d
th e FB I i n
w ere t h a t d a y w i t h
can y o u t e l l
an i n v e s t i g a t i o n
8
th e y w e re g o in g t o u t i l i z e
9
a b u y , n a r c o tic s
10
11
p a r tic u la r
Q
12
13
And i n
w h ic h I b e lie v e
g e n tle m a n f o r
some ty p e o f
And I was a ske d t o a s s i s t i n
to
th e m , w h a t w e re
and w h a t d id y o u do?
I was a ske d t o
s e a rc h a v e h i c le w h ic h was
g o in g t o be
14
p r o v id e d t o h im f o r t r a n s p o r t a t i o n
15
t h e r e a re no i l l e g a l d ru g s o r d ru g s o f a n y k in d
16
v e h ic le .
17
I b e lie v e
18
v e h i c le
19
w he re i t
20
p a r tic u la r
21
s u re t h a t t h e r e
22
v e h ic le .
23
Q
to
th a t
in c id e n t.
th e c o u rs e o f y o u r a s s is ta n c e
y o u r d u tie s
A
buy.
th is
in
re g a rd to
t o e n s u re th e
I a ls o changed th e lic e n s e
r e fle c t th a t i t
was a c q u ir e d fro m .
in c id e n t,
w ere
w o u ld be fro m
And th e n
p la te
an a re a
a t th e
I a g a in s e a rc h e d t h i s
v e h i c le
24
tu r n e d o v e r t o W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
25
r e s u lts
o f y o u r s e a rc h ?
b e fo r e
in
th a t
on t h a t
o u t s id e
of
end o f t h i s
v e h i c le
no d ru g s o r c o n tra b a n d i n
And when y o u s e a rc h e d t h i s
fa c t th a t
t o make
th a t
th e v e h i c le
was
f o r h is u s e , w h a t w e re th e

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ANDREWS - DIRECT
1
A
2
V e ry em pty v e h i c le
o t h e r th a n th e p a p e rw o rk fro m th e
agency.
3
Q
No d ru g s o r c o n tra b a n d o r money i n
4
A
N o, s i r .
5
Q
And a f t e r M r. P e t t ig r e w
6
v e h i c le
re tu rn e d ,
A
Y e s.
8
Q
And w h a t w ere th e
9
A
N e g a tiv e
a g a in .
10
Q
N e g a tiv e
means —
11
A
T h e re was no c o n tra b a n d o r d r u g s .
12
Q
No money i n
13
A
N o, s i r .
14
Q
When M r. P e t t ig r e w r e tu r n e d w i t h
th e
r e s u lts
car
th e c a r , w h a t d id he do i f
16
anyone?
I b e lie v e he was i n
18
It
19
c o n v e r s a t io n o r t o
20
a s s is t e d
21
Q
22
23
d id y o u s e a rc h
o f t h a t s e a rc h ?
So b y h i s
c o n ta c t
T h a t 's
he m eet
I was n o t p r e s e n t f o r
see a n y th in g change h a n d s ,
he m et
w ith
w i t h FBI A g e n t K a re n P e r tu s o .
th o s e ta s k s and
r e tu r n in g ,
a f t e r he e x i t e d
a n y th in g o r d id
was h e r i n v e s t i g a t i o n .
in
th a t c a r,
I
s im p ly
t h a t was i t .
w i t h h e r and y o u s e a rc h e d
c a r and t h a t was th e e x t e n t o f y o u r d u t ie s ?
A
th e
e ith e r ?
15
A
th e v e h ic le ?
a f t e r he e x it e d th e v e h ic le ?
7
17
re n ta l
c o rre c t.
24
MR. BELLA;
Thank y o u ,
s ir .
25
THE COURT;
C ro s s D a v is .
th e

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ANDREWS - CROSS EDWARDS
1
MR. TRUITT:
No q u e s t io n s .
2
THE COURT:
3
MR. MCGRATH:
4
THE COURT:
5
MR. JACKSON:
Y o u r H o n o r.
C ro s s D u r r .
N o th in g , Y our H o n o r.
C ro s s E d w a rd s.
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY
MR. JACKSON:
6
7
8
O f f i c e r A n d re w s , d id y o u accom pany M r. P e t t ig r e w
9
p u rc h a s e , d i d y o u accom pany him ?
10
f o r th e
N o, s i r .
11
MR. JACKSON:
N o th in g f u r t h e r .
Y o u r H o n o r.
12
THE COURT:
R e d ir e c t G o v e rn m e n t.
13
MR. BELLA:
N o th in g f u r t h e r .
14
THE COURT:
R e c ro s s D a v is
15
MR. TRUITT:
16
THE COURT:
17
MR. McGRATH:
18
THE COURT:
Y o u r H o n o r.
N o th in g , Y our H o n o r.
R e c ro s s D u r r .
N o th in g .
You may s te p dow n, th a n k yo u f o r c o m in g .
(The w itn e s s was e x c u s e d .)
19
20
THE COURT:
C a ll y o u r n e x t w it n e s s .
21
MR. BELLA:
O f f i c e r R o p e r.
22
THE COURT:
R oper?
23
MR. BELLA:
Y e s , Y o u r H o n o r.
24
__ S p e c ia l A g e n t R oper i s
25
e a r lie r .
b e in g
O f f i c e r R op er i s
r e c a lle d ;
b e in g
he had t e s t i f i e d

Page 10 ROPER - DIRECT
437
1
THE COURT:
2
Do c o u n s e l w a n t th e o a th r e - a d m in is te r e d ?
3
MR. TRUITT:
4
MR. McGr a t h :
No, Y our H o n o r.
5
MR. JACKSON:
No.
6
THE COURT:
You r e a l i z e
y o u 'r e
s till
No, Y o u r H o n o r.
P le a s e be s e a te d , p u l l y o u r c h a i r u p ,
7
spe ak d i r e c t l y
8
e v e ry b o d y may h e a r .
in to
th e m ic ro p h o n e lo u d enough so t h a t
KENNETH ROPER
9
resum ed th e s ta n d , h a v in g been p r e v i o u s ly d u ly s w o rn t o
t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t th e
t r u t h , was exa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d f u r t h e r as f o l l o w s ;
10
11
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY
MR. BELLA:
12
13
14
Q
W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ?
15
A
K e n n e th R o p e r, R -O -P -E -R .
16
Q
W hat i s
17
A
S p e c ia l a g e n t w i t h
18
Q
S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, have y o u t e s t i f i e d
y o u r o c c u p a t io n ,
s ir ?
th e F B I.
p r o c e e d in g and yo u u n d e r s ta n d y o u 'r e
19
20
A
C o rre c t.
21
Q
E xcuse me f o r a s e c o n d .
22
u n d e r o a th .
S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r,
c a llin g
p r e v i o u s ly
s till
in
u n d e r o a th ?
y o u r a tte n tio n
to
23
A p r i l 2 3 , 1 9 9 0 , d id you have o c c a s io n t o m eet w i t h
24
i n d i v i d u a l b y th e name o f W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
25
C o rre c t.
an
t h a t day?
th is

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ROPER - DIRECT
1
Q
And c o u ld y o u t e l l us w h a t y o u r d u t ie s
and w h a t y o u r
a c tiv itie s
w ere t h a t day when you m et w i t h him ?
I m et w i t h
P e t t ig r e w
4
w o r k in g i n
an u n d e rc o v e r c a p a c it y .
5
lo c a tio n
6
t o make a d ru g b u y .
2
3
A
th a t day.
The p u rp o s e was I was
I m et w i t h h im a t a
and th e p u rp o s e was t o accom pany h im t o p ic k up
7
Q
And d id y o u m eet w i t h
8
A
Y e s.
9
Q
And who e ls e d id y o u m eet w ith ?
10
A
K a re n P e r tu s o , we had some d e t e c t i v e s ,
P o lic e
11
12
Q
D e p a rtm e n t.
any o th e r a g e n ts t h a t d a y as w e ll?
some In d ia n a S ta te
A fe w o t h e r s .
Now, when yo u m et w i t h K a re n P e rtu s o and W a lte r P e t t ig r e w ,
13
can yo u t e l l us w h a t y o u d id t h a t d a y , w h a t y o u r a c t i v i t i e s
14
w ere ?
15
A
We m et h im , we s e a rc h e d h im ,
16
h is
17
m y s e lf ;
18
lo c a tio n
19
v e h i c le
20
p e rs o n .
Then we b o th l e f t
I was d r i v i n g .
in
I p u t on a r e c o r d in g d e v ic e
G a ry ,
We l e f t
I n d ia n a ,
and he w e n t t o
And he w e n t i n ;
to g e th e r,
P e t t ig r e w
a t w h ic h tim e he e x i t e d
a
th e
a r e s id e n c e .
he came b a ck w i t h
an i n d i v i d u a l ,
b o th o f them fe m a le s .
22
came i n t o
The b o th o f them came b a c k ;
23
th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r S to r e a t w h ic h tim e
24
us e x i t e d
25
e n tra n c e .
And she d i r e c t e d me t o ,
th e v e h i c l e .
and
th e h o t e l and we w e n t t o
21
th e c a r .
on
We w e n t i n t o
th e y
I b e lie v e
th e
th e
it 's
th re e
th e e m p lo y e e s '
of

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When we g o t i n ,
1
2
and th e p e rs o n ,
3
P e t t ig r e w t o
4
room ; I
5
ro om ; I h e a rd th e v o ic e .
6
fro n t;
7
Q
th e
we w e n t t o a s m a ll room i n
fe m a le t h a t was w i t h u s ,
E d w a rd s.
I h e a rd h i s v o ic e .
saw a p a r t i a l v ie w o f th e
P e t t ig r e w
she in t r o d u c e d
He w e n t t o
s m a ll
saw a bed i n
th e
And th e n we came b a ck t o
s ta y e d i n
L e t me s to p yo u t h e r e .
room ; I
th e b a c k ,
th e
th e room .
You say y o u i n d ic a t e d y o u h e a rd a
v o ic e ?
8
9
A
C o rre c t.
10
Q
And d id yo u l a t e r d e te rm in e whose v o ic e
11
A
Y e s.
12
Q
Who was t h a t ?
13
A
Lee E d w a rd s.
14
Q
When y o u f i r s t w e n t w i t h W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
15
t o m eet t h i s
woman, w h a t i s
16
know w he re t h a t was?
17
A
Y e s.
18
Q
Yes?
19
A
Y e s,
20
Q
And w h a t c i t y
21
A
G a ry ,
22
Q
A ll
t h a t was?
to
th is
y o u r u n d e r s ta n d in g ?
lo c a tio n
Do y o u
The r e s id e n c e ?
460 T a f t .
was t h a t in ?
I n d ia n a .
r ig h t.
You m et up w i t h
th is
woman and th e n w e n t t o
th e
B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r S to re ?
23
24
A
C o rre c t.
25
Q
O ka y.
When yo u f i r s t
a r r i v e d a t th e B la c k H orsem an L iq u o r

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S t o r e , w h a t d id you o b s e rv e ?
1
2
A
When I
fir s t
g o t th e re ,
3
h a n g in g o u t i n
4
th e
5
p e o p le j u s t h a n g in g o u t .
6
Q
A
fro n t o f —
in
They w ere j u s t —
f r o n t o f th e l i q u o r
j u s t h a n g in g o u t ,
And w he re d id yo u — w h a t s o r t s
th is
7
8
s id e .
th e r e w ere s e v e r a l p e o p le j u s t
liq u o r
T h e re i s
q u ite
a m a in e n tr a n c e ,
f r o n t e n tr a n c e w he re m o st o f I
is
11
t h a t d id n o t a p p e a r t o be v ie w e d by th e p u b l i c .
an e m ploye e e n tr a n c e on th e s id e ;
12
Q
And w h ic h e n tr a n c e d id yo u use?
13
A
We u se d th e s id e e n tr a n c e .
14
Q
When yo u e n te r e d th r o u g h th e
Then t h e r e
on a s id e e n tr a n c e
s id e e n tr a n c e , p le a s e p i c k up
15
a g a in and t e l l us w h a t yo u o b s e rv e d when yo u e n te r e d
16
th r o u g h th e
A
O kay.
s id e e n tra n c e ?
When we e n te r e d ,
it
was th e t h r e e
o f us,
18
m y s e lf and a la d y d e s c r ib e d t o me as E l l a .
19
w a lk e d i n ;
20
t h e r e was a s m a ll h a llw a y le a d in g t o
21
we w a lk e d i n t o
lik e
The th r e e o f us w a lk e d t o
P e ttig r e w ,
The t h r e e
o f us
th e m a in room a t w h ic h tim e
a b e d ro o m .
th e b e d ro o m .
22
a p p ro a c h in g th e be d ro o m , E l l a
23
w e re h e re and t h a t P e t t ig r e w was i n
24
tim e he was g r e e te d by E d w a rd s , and E l l a
25
th e d o o r ;
I
to
s to r e ?
10
17
on
a fe w
o f e n tr a n c e s a re t h e r e
g u e ss th e c u s to m e rs w o u ld go t o make p u rc h a s e s .
9
s to re
When we w e re
made an an nou ncem ent t h a t we
f a c t h e re .
and I
can j u s t see a p a r t i a l v ie w o f th e
A t w h ic h
s to p p e d a t
room ;
I
can

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1
see t h a t th e r e was a bed i n
2
v o ic e .
th e
room and I
A t w h ic h tim e —
3
Q
T h is was i n s id e
4
A
I n s id e
th e l i q u o r
s to r e ?
th e l i q u o r s t o r e w a lk in g to w a rd s th e
5
tim e E l l a
6
lo b b y o f i n s id e
and I
And w h a t — w he re d id W a lte r P e t t ig r e w go?
8
A
He was i n
Q
room .
He w e n t d i r e c t l y
in to
th e
room and we
When y o u w e n t t o
th e m a in p a r t o f th e s t o r e w i t h
A
O kay.
A t w h ic h p o i n t I
s a t down and I was w a i t i n g
13
and E l l a was a p p a r e n t ly d o in g th e b u s in e s s o f th e
14
y o u know ,
15
r e g i s t e r and d e a lin g w i t h
w hat
W hat d id y o u do w h ile yo u w ere up th e r e
17
A
I
was s i t t i n g
th e re .
We w o u ld g e t i n t o ,
18
s im p le d ia lo g u e
once i n
19
was j u s t s i t t i n g
th e r e
th e n ?
y o u know , l i t t l e
a w h ile when she had a b r e a k .
And I
and j u s t w a i t i n g .
By th e w a y, d id yo u i d e n t i f y y o u r s e l f t o a n y o f th e p e o p le
21
th e re
22
w h a t c a p a c it y w e re you w o rk in g ?
A
s to re ;
c u s to m e rs .
Q
Q
f o r h im
she was j u s t g o in g a b o u t r u n n in g th e c a s h
16
23
E lla ,
ha ppened th e n ?
11
20
th e m a in
came b a c k .
9
12
A t w h ic h
o f th e s t o r e .
Q
th e
room .
r e tu r n e d fro m th e h a llw a y b a ck t o
7
10
can h e a r a
N o,
a t th e l i q u o r
I d id n o t..
s to re
I was i n
as a la w e n fo rc e m e n t o f f i c e r ?
an u n d e r c o v e r c a p a c it y ,
24
a s k e d my name so I d i d n ' t o f f e r
25
s a y la w e n fo rc e m e n t.
it.
B u t I d id —
In
so no one
I d id
not

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1
Q
And w h a t w ere you supposed t o be a c t in g as t h a t day?
2
A
O kay.
I was a c c o m p a n y in g P e t t ig r e w ;
j u s t h a n g in g o u t f o r
th e p u rp o s e o f m a k in g a d ru g p u rc h a s e .
3
4
Q
D id yo u m eet anyone e ls e a t th e l i q u o r
5
A
Y e s.
I was in t r o d u c e d t o
som eone.
6
th e r e was a la d y b e h in d th e
7
h e r v e ry c a u s a lly .
8
L a t e r on a la d y came o u t ;
9
E d w a rd s,
s to re
t h a t day?
When y o u w a lk e d i n ,
r e g is te r ,
I was in t r o d u c e d t o
A name, I d i d n ' t p ic k up on th e name.
she was in t r o d u c e d t o me as L o r r i
so we came — we e xch ang ed g r e e t in g s and I
ju s t
w e n t b a ck t o my —
10
11
Q
I 'm
s o rry ?
12
A
Then I w e n t b a ck t o w he re I was and s a t dow n.
13
Q
And w h a t ha ppened th e n ?
14
A
And I was s i t t i n g
15
g o in g on i n
16
b a ck o u t .
th e
and w a i t i n g
s to re
and j u s t o b s e r v in g w h a t was
and w a i t i n g
17
Q
And w h e re was P e t t ig r e w d u r in g a l l
18
A
He was i n
19
Q
W hat ha ppened a f t e r
20
A
f o r P e t t ig r e w
th is
to
come
tim e ?
th e b a ck room .
th a t?
a w h ile he came o u t ,
E dw ards and P e t t ig r e w
21
and an i n t r o d u c t i o n was made.
He — P e t t ig r e w
22
me t o E d w a rd s , we e x ch a n g e d g r e e t in g s .
23
m e a n in g P e t t ig r e w ,
24
we w e re le a v in g th e
25
I w ent back in
And a l l
came o u t
in t r o d u c e d
o f us,
E d w a rd s , m y s e lf and E l l a w e n t to w a rd s
s to re ,
and a t t h a t p o i n t P e t t ig r e w
th e c a r and we d ro v e aw ay.
and

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Q
Where d id yo u go t o a f t e r yo u l e f t
2
A
We w e n t b a ck t o
3
Q
D id y o u
4
443
th e l i q u o r
have o c c a s io n t o o b s e rv e
i f P e t t ig r e w had a n y t h in g
w i t h h im a f t e r le a v in g h is m e e tin g w i t h M r. Edw ards?
A
Y e s.
6
Q
And w h a t i f
7
A
A p a cka g e o f s u b s ta n c e we th o u g h t t o be d r u g s .
8
Q
W here d id yo u go a f t e r
9
A
We w e n t d i r e c t l y
10
Q
And a t t h a t l o c a t i o n ,
11
a n y th in g d id he
have on him ?
le a v in g
b a ck t o
th e l i q u o r s t o r e
th e n ?
th e h o t e l .
d id yo u m eet up w i t h
th e o t h e r
la w
e v e ry o n e e ls e was w a i t i n g
fo r
e n fo rc e m e n t o f f i c e r s ?
A
13
Y e s, when I g o t b a ck th e r e
us.
14
MR. BELLA:
Thank y o u ,
15
THE COURT:
C ro s s D a v is .
16
MR. TR U ITT:
17
THE COURT:
18
MR. MCGRATH;
19
THE COURT:
20
MR. JACKSON;
21
N o th in g ,
s ir .
You may a s k .
Y our H o n o r.
C ro s s D u r r .
N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r.
C ro s s E d w a rd s.
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY
MR. JACKSON:
22
23
th e n ?
th e h o t e l .
5
12
s to re
Q
S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, A p r i l 2 3 ,
1990, you s ta te d
24
s e a rc h e d th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t?
25
Y e s.
th a t
you

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1
Q
Where d id t h i s
2
A
A t th e h o t e l .
3
Q
W h ich h o t e l was t h i s ?
4
A
The L a Q u in ta .
5
Q
W here i s
6
A
T h a t I b e lie v e
7
Q
Can yo u d e s c r ib e
t h a t lo c a te d ?
on 65 and 30 i n M e r r i l l v i l l e .
f o r itie th e s e a rc h on A p r i l 23# 1 9 9 0 /
b e fo r e he d id d e p a rte d ?
8
9
s e a rc h ta k e p la c e ?
A
O kay.
B a s ic a lly
it
was a p a t down t o make s u re t h a t he
d i d n ' t have a n y th in g on h im , any c o n tra b a n d on h im .
10
11
Q
D id y o u you d i d n ' t ta k e o f f —
12
A
And t r y i n g
a n s w e r.
14
C o u n s e l, a llo w
th e w itn e s s
to
fin is h
A
You may p r o c e e d .
O kay.
The p u rp o s e was t o
s e a rc h and t o make s u re he d i d n ' t
have any c o n tra b a n d on h im .
17
Q
B u t y o u d i d n ' t ta k e a l l h i s
a l l h is
19
c lo t h e s o f f ,
was n o t a s t r i p
c lo t h e s o f f o r have h im ta k e
d i d you?
20
A
It
21
Q
So y o u d i d n ' t make th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t s t r i p
s e a rc h , n o .
n o t h in g and s e a rc h h i s u n d e rw e a r and s o c k s ,
22
23
A
N o.
24
Q
Now, a t th e tim e y o u a r r i v e d
25
h is
THE WITNESS:
15
18
—
THE COURT:
13
16
to
lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h
a t th e l i q u o r
th e c o n f i d e n t i a l
down t o
c o rre c t?
s to re ,
d id you
in f o r m a n t a t a n y

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1
p o in t in
tim e w h ile you w ere in s id e
2
A
Y e s.
3
Q
A t w hat p o in t in
4
A
When th e y w ere i n
5
6
th e l i q u o r
445
s to r e ?
tim e d id yo u lo s e v i s u a l c o n ta c t?
th e
room .
When th e y w ere i n
th e b a c k
room .
Q
D id yo u have an y eye c o n ta c t?
7
you t e s t i f i e d
8
th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t ,
I n o t h e r w o rd s ,
I b e lie v e
t h a t th e r e was a r e c o r d in g d e v ic e p la c e d on
c o rre c t?
9
A
C o rre c t.
10
Q
D id y o u have a r e c e iv in g u n i t f o r t h a t r e c o r d in g d e v ic e ?
11
A
N o,
12
Q
So y o u l o s t v i s u a l and eye v ie w c o n ta c t?
13
A
C o rre c t.
14
Q
F o r a p p r o x im a te ly how lo n g ?
15
A
I t 's
16
Q
How many m in u te s w o u ld t h a t be?
17
A
Maybe f i f t e e n .
18
Q
W ould I be a c c u r a te
I d id n 't .
d iffic u lt
to
say.
19
e y e v ie w c o n t a c t w i t h
20
tim e t h a t he was i n
21
A
C o rre c t.
22
Q
And t h a t e n t i r e
in
A fe w m in u te s .
s a y in g t h a t y o u l o s t v i s u a l and
th e c o n f i d e n t i a l
in f o r m a n t th e e n t i r e
th e b a ck room?
t r a n s a c t io n
to o k p la c e a b o u t f i f t e e n
m in u te s ?
23
24
A
Y e s, g iv e o r ta k e .
25
Q
W ould i t
have been p o s s ib le
f o r th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t

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to
1
le a v e th e l i q u o r
2
A
A n y th in g i s
3
Q
But i t
4
A
It
p o s s ib le .
I t 's
Q
h ig h ly u n lik e ly .
p o s s ib le ?
w o u ld be —
I d o n 't know how he c o u ld .
I b e lie v e yo u t e s t i f i e d
o f th e l i q u o r s t o r e
7
in
th e
Y e s.
9
Q
And t h a t t h e r e was a s id e d o o r?
10
A
Y e s.
11
Q
T h a t yo u e n te r e d th ro u g h ?
12
A
Y e s.
13
Q
And t h i s
14
A
C o rre c t.
15
Q
W ould he have had a c c e s s t o
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t was b a ck i n
t h a t a re a ?
t h a t s id e d o o r d u r in g t h i s
1 5 -m in u te p e r io d ?
16
A
N o, be ca u se I was b e tw e e n h im ,
th e
room and th e
s id e d o o r ,
so he c o u ld n o t le a v e w it h o u t me k n o w in g i t .
18
Q
To th e b e s t o f y o u r k n o w le d g e , w ere t h e r e
20
e n tr a n c e s o r e x i t s
21
have had a c c e s s to ?
22
A
I d o n 't know .
23
Q
W ith r e s p e c t t o
th e
an y o t h e r
fro m th e l i q u o r s t o r e w h ic h he w o u ld
r e c o r d in g d e v ic e , w h a t ty p e o f
r e c o r d in g d e v ic e was p la c e d on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t?
24
25
fro n t
r e c e p t io n a re a ?
A
19
I t w o u ld h i g h l y
t h a t yo u w ere s e a te d a t th e
8
17
1 5 -m in u te p e r io d ?
u n lik e ly .
5
6
is
s t o r e d u r in g t h i s
A
A ta p e ,
a ta p e
r e c o r d in g d e v ic e .

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1
Q
Do yo u know th e b ra n d name, th e ty p e ?
2
A
N o.
3
Q
Were yo u r e s p o n s ib le
4
th is
5
A
6
Q
7
tim e
d e v ic e ?
N o, n o .
B u t y o u w ere r e s p o n s ib le
f o r p la c in g
th is
u n i t on th e
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r it ia n t , w ere yo u n o t?
8
A
9
Q
10
C o rre c t.
D id yo u ch e ck t o
see w h e th e r t h i s
p r o p e r ly ?
11
A
12
Q
13
14
r e c o r d in g
f o r m o n it o r in g a t a n y p o i n t i n
.
Y e s.
Can y o u d e s c r ib e
th a t th is
A
f o r me th e p ro c e d u re y o u u s e d t o
a s s u re
u n i t was o p e r a t in g p r o p e r ly ?
B a s ic a lly
it 's
a r e c o r d in g d e v ic e and b e fo r e we go o u t , we
15
j u s t o p e r a te
it
16
tw o , t o make
s u re
Who
t o make
it
is
17
Q
O kay.
18
A
I d o n 't — I d o n 't r e c a l l .
19
Q
20
d e v ic e was o p e r a t in g
s u re ,
a s im p le t e s t ,
o n e , tw o ,
r e c o r d in g .
had c o n t r o l o f
th e
when was th e l a s t tim e t h i s
r e c e i v i n g d e v ic e ?
d e v ic e was —
r e c e iv e d
m a in te n a n c e ?
21
A
I d o n 't know .
22
Q
When was th e l a s t tim e t h i s
23
A
I d o n 't know .
24
Q
Is
25
A
Y e s, t o my k n o w le d g e .
th is
th e o n ly
m a ch in e was c a l i b r a t e d ?
c o n t a c t y o u 'v e had w i t h M r. P e ttig r e w ?
one,

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ROPER - CROSS EDWARDS
1
Q
D id y o u s e a rc h M r. P e t t ig r e w a g a in once y o u r e t u r n e d t o
L a Q u in ta In n ?
2
3
A
C o rre c t, y e s.
4
Q
O kay.
And a g a in ,
A
It
was a l i t t l e
7
s h ir t.
8
b u t we d id
9
Q
A
We d i d n ' t s t r i p
rem ove h i s
Was a n yb o d y e ls e
in
N o t — when I
h im down; i t
s e a rc h ,
th is
is
a
Q
O kay.
rem ove h i s
w a s n 't a s t r i p
s e a rc h ,
c lo t h e s and we d id a th o r o u g h s e a r c h .
c h a rg e o f s e a r c h in g M r. P e t t ig r e w
on
1990?
s e a rc h e d h im ,
I was n o t th e o n ly one t h e r e ,
t h e r e w ere o t h e r p e o p le w i t h u s .
12
13
was n o t a s t r i p
b i t more th a n a p a t dow n; we d id
th e 2 3 rd o f A p r i l ,
10
11
th is
p a t dow n, c o r r e c t ?
5
6
th e
My q u e s t io n i s ,
B u t I d id
d id a n y b o d y e ls e
s e a rc h h im .
s e a rc h t h i s
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t on A p r i l 23 o f 1990?
14
15
A
Y es.
16
Q
And who was t h a t ?
17
A
To be __ I ' l l
have t o
r e f r e s h my m in d .
It
was tw o o f u s .
L e t m e -c h e c k .
18
19
Q
A re yo u r e f r e s h i n g y o u r memory?
20
A
L e t me r e f r e s h my m em ory, y e s .
21
Q
And w h a t do cum e nt a re y o u u s in g t o
22
A
I 'm
r e f r e s h y o u r memory?
u s in g n o te s t h a t I w ro te a t th e
Y e s, m y s e lf and S. A . W agoner.
23
24
Q
B o th o f y o u d id a p a t down s e a rc h ?
25
A
C o rre c t.
t im e .

Page 22 ROPER - REDIRECT
1
Q
W hat s iz e was th e p a c k e t o f c o n t r o l l e d — a lle g e d
2
c o n tr o lle d
3
Horsem an L iq u o r S to re ?
4
A
5
449
I t 's
s u b s ta n c e t h a t was r e t r i e v e d
a p a c k e t;
I d o n 't r e c a l l ,
fro m th e B la c k
a s m a ll p a c k e t.
I d o n 't
r e c a ll e x a c tly .
6
Q
It
7
A
Y e s.
8
Q
B u t y o u d id n o t see n o r d id you h e a r by way o f t h i s
9
was a s m a ll p a c k e t?
r e c o r d in g d e v ic e th e d e a l o r th e a lle g e d d e a l?
10
A
No.
11
Q
T h a t w e n t down?
12
A
No.
13
Q
W ould i t
have been p o s s ib le
f o r th e c o n f i d e n t i a l i n f o r m a n t ,
14
P e t t ig r e w ,
15
w h ic h y o u w o u ld n o t have been aw are o f?
16
A
t o have o b ta in e d a d d i t i o n a l d ru g s a t t h a t tim e
No.
17
MR. JACKSON:
18
THE COURT:
19
Q
R e d ir e c t G o v e rn m e n t.
S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, when yo u s e a rc h e d W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
22
a f t e r le a v in g
23
to
24
c lo th e s ,
25
Y o u r H o n o r.
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY
MR. BELLA:
20
21
N o th in g f u r t h e r .
A
th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r S to r e and r e t u r n i n g
th e m o t e l, yo u i n d ic a t e d
C o rre c t.
is
th a t c o rre c t?
t h a t y o u had t o
rem ove h i s

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ROPER - RECROSS EDWARDS
1
Q
And i n
s e a r c h in g h im e i t h e r b e fo r e o r a f t e r
th e p u rc h a s e
2
was made a t th e B la c k Horseman L iq u o r S t o r e ,
3
any c o n tra b a n d o r money on h im a t e i t h e r — a t th e tim e ?
4
A
N o, I d i d n ' t .
5
Q
When yo u w ere i n
A
When th e b o th o f them e x it e d
o u t,
8
9
th e B la c k Horseman L iq u o r S t o r e ,
Q
t h a t 's
fro m th e b a ck room , t h e y came
when th e i n t r o d u c t i o n was made.
You i n d ic a t e d y o u w ere i n
10
o b s e rv e i f
11
yo u w ere th e r e ?
anyone l e f t
a p o s i t i o n w h e re y o u c o u ld
t h a t room and l e f t
12
A
T h a t 's
13
Q
D id y o u o b s e rv e anyone e ls e
A
in
t h a t room o r go i n
No.
MR. BELLA;
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r,
17
THE COURT:
R e c ro s s D a v is .
•
MR. TR U ITT;
N o th in g ,
19
THE COURT:
20
MR. McGRATH:
21
THE COURT;
22
MR. JACKSON;
t h a t 's
a ll
I have.
Y o u r H o n o r.
R e c ro s s D u r r .
N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r.
R e c ro s s E d w a rd s.
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
RECROSS EXAMINATION
BY
MR. JACKSON;
23
24
25
or out o f
and Lee E dw ards?
16
18
th e s t o r e w h ile
c o rre c t.
t h a t room o t h e r th a n W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
14
15
a t w hat
p o i n t w ere yo u in t r o d u c e d t o Lee Edw ards?
6
7
d id y o u f i n d
Q
S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, do y o u know w h e th e r Lee E dw ards w o rk e d

Page 24 ROPER - RECROSS EDWARDS
1
in
th e l i q u o r s t o r e
o r n o t?
2
A
If
3
Q
Yes?
4
A
I b e lie v e he d i d ,
5
Q
And so he was an em ployee o f th e l i q u o r
6
A
C o rre c t.
7
he w o rk e d i n
s to re ;
8
Q
9
So i f
th e l i q u o r s to r e ?
yes.
A
th e
liq u o r
i n w h a t c a p a c it y I d o n 't know .
I w e re t o
s a y he was an em ploye e o f th e l i q u o r
s to re ,
t h a t w o u ld n 't be a s u r p r is e ?
No.
11
MR. JACKSON:
12
THE COURT:
13
N o th in g f u r t h e r .
Y o u r H o n o r.
R e - r e d i r e c t G o v e rn m e n t.
FURTHER REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY
MR. BELLA:
14
15
Q
16
Do y o u know w h a t c a p a c it y —
is
17
A
18
I
a s s o c ia te d w i t h
th in k
a s s o c ia te d w i t h
Q
T h a t 's
20
A
C o rre c t.
21
th e B la c k Horseman L iq u o r S to re ?
it;
I know he was
I d o n 't know e x a c t l y w h a t he d i d .
th e e x t e n t o f y o u r k n o w le d g e o f h i s
MR. BELLA:
.
i n w h a t c a p a c it y M r. E dw ards
h e 's been a m a n a g e r, o w n e r.
19
22
s to r e ?
I b e lie v e he was a s s o c ia te d w i t h
a m anager o r s o m e th in g ,
10
451
THE COURT:
Thank y o u .
R e - r e c r o s s D a v is .
23
MR. TR U ITT:
N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r.
24
THE COURT:
R e -re c ro s s D u rr.
25
MR. MCGRATH:
N o th in g , Y our H o n o r.
a s s o c ia t io n ?

Page 25 DORSEY - DIRECT
1
THE COURT:
2
MR. JACKSON:
3
THE COURT:
4
452
R e - r e c r o s s E dw ards.
N o th in g ,
Y our H o n o r.
You may s te p dow n, th a n k y o u f o r c o m in g .
C a l l y o u r n e x t w it n e s s .
5
(The w itn e s s was e x c u s e d .)
6
MR. BELLA:
O f f i c e r D o rs e y , Y our H o n o r.
7
THE COURT:
P le a s e be s e a te d , p u l l y o u r c h a i r u p ,
8
speak d i r e c t l y
9
e v e ry b o d y i n
in to
th e m ic ro p h o n e lo u d enough so t h a t
th e c o u rtro o m may h e a r .
10
You may p ro c e e d ,
1
1
MR. BELLA:
12
c o u n s e l.
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
STEPHEN DORSEY
13
c a l l e d as a w itn e s s b y th e G o v e rn m e n t, b e in g f i r s t d u ly
s w o rn t o t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t
th e t r u t h , was e xa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d as f o l l o w s :
14
15
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY
MR. BELLA:
16
17
Q
W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ?
18
A
S te p h e n D o rs e y .
19
Q
And w o u ld y o u s p e l l y o u r f i r s t
20
c o u rt re p o rte r,
21
F i r s t name i s
22
D -O -R -S -E -Y .
name, l a s t name f o r
th e
p le a s e ?
S -T -E -P -H -E -N ,
23
Q
And w h a t i s
24
A
I am a d e t e c t i v e w i t h
25
Q
C i t y o f w h a t?
y o u r o c c u p a t io n ,
l a s t name i s
D o rs e y ,
s ir ?
th e C i t y o f M a rio n P o lic e
D e p a rtm e n t.

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DORSEY - DIRECT
1
A
I 'm
a d e te c tiv e .
2
Q
W ith w h a t?
3
A
W ith th e C i t y o f M a rio n .
4
Q
C i t y o f M a r io n ,
5
A
T h a t 's
6
Q
D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , d r a w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n
In d ia n a ?
c o rre c t.
t o June 1 1 ,
y o u have o c c a s io n t o m eet w i t h a W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
7
1990,
th a t
day?
8
9
A
Y e s,
10
Q
And can y o u t e l l me w he re yo u m et w i t h h im , who e ls e y o u
‘
m et w i t h and w h a t th e c ir c u m s ta n c e s o f t h a t m e e tin g was?
11
12
I d id .
A
I m et w i t h h im a t th e L a Q u in ta In n a lo n g w i t h D e t e c t iv e Tom
13
T r a th e n ,
14
o u r d e p a r tm e n t.
15
th e re .
16
Q
I c a n 't r e c a l l e v e ry b o d y e ls e
And w h a t happened when you m et w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w
A
I was in fo r m e d t h a t I was g o in g t o
19
lo c a t io n . w h e r e we w ere g o in g t o
20
maybe h e r o in a t t h a t t im e .
21
t h a t was
a t th e
L a Q u in ta In n t h a t day?
17
18
S p e c ia l A g e n t M ark B e c k e r, L ie u t e n a n t J a y Kay fro m
Q
ta k e P e t t ig r e w
to
a
a tte m p t t o b u y c o c a in e o r
And w h a t d id y o u o b s e rv e a t th e L a Q u in ta In n o r w h a t d id
22
y o u do a t th e L a Q u in ta In n and w h a t w ere y o u r a c t i v i t i e s
23
t h a t day?
24
25
A
My a c t i v i t i e s
w ere t o d r iv e
t h a t p o i n t a t th e L a Q u in ta ,
P e t t ig r e w
to
th e l o c a t i o n .
At
P e t t ig r e w was g iv e n a th o u s a n d

Page 27 454
DORSEY - DIRECT
1
d o llc u rs w o r th o f cash b y S p e c ia l A g e n t M ark B e c k e r , and we
2
a ls o t a lk e d a b o u t p u r c h a s in g
3
E d w a rd s.
4
Q
And w h a t
5
A
O kay.
s u b s ta n c e fro m a Lee
d id y o u do t h a t d a y th e n ?
From th e r e we l e f t
5
—
7
was a l i q u o r
8
S to re .
9
a
t o G a ry t o
th e L a Q u in ta and we d ro v e t o
an a re a 1 5 th and V i r g i n i a ,
s t o r e th e r e
c a lle d
We a r r i v e d t h e r e ,
I b e lie v e
th e
th e re
th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r
t h a t s t o r e was c lo s e d .
We th e n — P e t t ig r e w
th e n a d v is e d me t o
go ta k e h im t o
10
a phone b o o th , w h ic h I
d i d , and he w o u ld c a l l Lee E dw ards
11
up and th e n t r y
up a d e a l th r o u g h th e p h o n e .
to
set
12
Q
W hat ha ppe ned th e n ?
13
A
P e t t ig r e w d id make c o n t a c t w i t h
E dw ards and t o l d
me
th a t in
14
a b o u t te n m in u te s we w o u ld go t o h i s home and th e d e a l was
15
a lr e a d y s e t up t o b u y t w o - f i f t h s ,
16
q u a r te r - o u n c e bags o f h e r o in .
17
Q
18
A
And w h a t
d id yo u do
We th^en a r r i v e d
in
19
fro n t o f a l i t t l e
20
E d w a rd s '
21
te s t im o n y i s
23
b a se d up on th e r e
24
25
s to re
MR. JACKSON:
22
th e n ?
th e
r e s id e n c e .
a re a o f 1 5 th and T a f t ;
Lee
And a t t h a t tim e th e —
b a sed on f a c t s
THE COURT:
I p a rk e d i n
a ro u n d th e c o r n e r fro m th e —
O b je c t io n ,
is
w h ic h w ere tw o
Y o u r H o n o r,
n o t in
th e w i t n e s s 's
e v id e n c e .
And a ls o
no f o u n d a t io n .
C o u n s e l.
(B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e
re c o rd .)

Page 28 DORSEY - DIRECT
MR. JACKSON:
1
H e'S t e s t i f y i n g
2
r e s id e n c e ;
3
E d w a rd s ' house —
4
e v id e n c e t h a t i t ' s
t h a t th e Lee E d w a rd s '
th e r e has been no fo u n d a t io n l a i d
MR. BELLA:
5
455
r e s id e n c e .
h is
It
assumes f a c t s
I e x p e c t h is
7
he was d i r e c t e d b y W a lte r P e t t ig r e w .
it 's
9
r e s id e n c e i d e n t i f i e d
h is
It
s h o u ld in d ic a t e d as s u c h , n o t t h a t
r e s id e n c e .
THE COURT:
A re yo u g o in g t o
11
MR. BELLA:
S u re .
12
THE COURT:
I 'm
If
not c la r ifie d ,
14
m o tio n .
I 'll
s tr ik e
it.
15
n e c e s s it y t o
s tr ik e
it.
MR. JACKSON:
c la r ify
g o in g t o o v e r r u le
13
16
it
t o h im as Lee E d w a rd s , w h e re
10
it 's
Lee
n o t in
te s t im o n y w i l l be th e —
was th e
MR. JACKSON:
is
r e s id e n c e .
6
8
th a t i t
th e n I ' l l
But i f
—
it 's
if
it
th is
fo r
up?
r i g h t now .
y o u re -m a k e th e
c le a r e d up t h e r e 's
no
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
17
18
THE COURT:
19
MR. BELLA:
O v e r r u le d .
20
D id y o u . D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , do yo u have a n y p e r s o n a l
21
kn o w le d g e o f t h i s
b e in g Lee E d w a rd s '
22
A
N o.
23
Q
D id he d i r e c t yo u t o
24
A
T h a t 's
25
Q
Now, when y o u a r r i v e d
re s id e n c e ?
The k n o w le d g e I had w o u ld have been th r o u g h P e t t ig r e w .
th is
a d d re s s on 1 5 th and T a f t ?
c o rre c t.
a t 1 5 th and T a f t ,
w hat — d id you

Page 29 DORSEY - DIRECT
1
p a rk i n
f r o n t o f th e
2
Lee E d w a rd s '
456
re s id e n c e t h a t P e t t ig r e w
A
N o, I d id n o t .
4
Q
W here d id yo u p a rk th e n ?
5
A
Been a b lo c k away w here I had v i s i b l e
c o n ta c t to
Q
You had in d ic a t e d yo u p a rk e d i n
f r o n t o f a b u s in e s s
e s t a b lis h m e n t o f some s o r t ?
8
9
A
T h a t 's
10
Q
And was t h a t — w he re was t h a t i n
r e la t io n
id e n tifie d
r e s id e n c e ?
11
A
c o rre c t.
t o yo u as Lee E d w a rd s '
to
A p p r o x im a te ly a b lo c k aw ay, p r o b a b ly j u s t t o
th e
13
Q
And w h a t happened th e n ?
15
A
A t t h a t tim e P e t t ig r e w g o t o u t o f my v e h i c le
16
w a lk e d a c r o s s th e s t r e e t t o
17
me Lee E dw ards l i v e d .
Q
th e
And y o u i n d ic a t e d
th e
and th e n
t h a t yo u w ere p a rk e d i n
a l o c a t i o n w h e re
r e s id e n c e ?
A
T h a t 's
21
Q
And w h a t d id yo u o b s e rv e happen th e n ?
22
A
I
c o rre c t.
o b s e rv e d P e t t ig r e w
g e t o u t,
go up t o
th e
r e s id e n c e .
23
k n o c k e d , and a fe w seco n d s l a t e r he w e n t in s i d e
24
r e s id e n c e .
Q
le ft of
i n w h ic h he t o l d
20
25
r e s id e n c e
r e s id e n c e
y o u c o u ld o b s e rv e th e
19
th e
r e s id e n c e .
14
18
th e
r e s id e n c e .
6
12
as
re s id e n c e ?
3
7
id e n tifie d
And w h a t happened th e n , w h a t d id yo u o b s e rv e ?
th e
He

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DORSEY - DIRECT
1
A s h o r t tim e l a t e r
2
r e s id e n c e .
3
my v e h i c l e .
4
w h it e
W alked b a ck a c ro s s th e s t r e e t b a ck and g o t i n t o
And a t t h a t p o i n t he gave me tw o e n v e lo p e s ,
e n v e lo p e s and s a id he d id make th e b u y o f h e r o in .
MR. JACKSON:
5
h e a rs a y ,
6
I v ie w e d h im com in g o u t o f th e
it 's
Y o u r H o n o r,
THE COURT:
R esp onse .
8
MR. BELLA:
It
H o n o r.
It
T h a t 's
i s W a lte r P e t t i g r e w 's
s ta t e m e n t. Y o u r
e x p la in s w h a t happened t h a t d a y .
THE COURT:
10
o b je c t.
a s ta te m e n t may b y an o u t - o f - c o u r t d e c l a r a n t .
7
9
I 'll
S u s ta in e d .
1
1
w h a t was s a id i s
12
tw o e n v e lo p e s re m a in s .
13
MR. JACKSON:
14
MR. BELLA:
15
W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
16
p a c k e ts ?
T h a t p o r t i o n o f th e a n s w e r o f
o rd e re d s tr ic k e n .
T h a t'S
fin e .
came b a ck w i t h
The f a c t t h a t he gave
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
th e s e tw o e n v e lo p e s ,
th e
17
A
T h a t 's
18
Q
And w h a t d id he do w i t h
19
A
He th e n tu r n e d them o v e r t o me.
20
Q
I
21
A
I was a d v is e d th r o u g h W a lte r t h a t Lee Edw ards w a n te d me t o
22
c o rre c t.
see.
d r iv e
W hat happened a f t e r
s lo w ly p a s t h i s
MR. JACKSON:
23
th o s e p a c k e ts ?
24
is
25
h e a rs a y .
th a t?
house.
Y our H o n o r,
I 'm
g o in g t o
o b je c t.
a s ta te m e n t b a sed upon an o u t - o f - c o u r t d e c l a r a n t ,
T h is
it's

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DORSEY - DIRECT
1
MR. BELLA:
2
tru th
W e ll,
th is
is
o f th e m a tte r a s s e r te d ,
o f f e r e d n o t t o p ro v e th e
bu t fo r —
3
THE COURT:
F o r th e a c t io n s
4
MR. BELLA:
Y es.
5
THE COURT:
L a d ie s and g e n tle m e n ,
6
re s p o n s e i s
n o t b e in g o f f e r e d
7
b u t f o r th e a c t io n s
8
MR. JACKSON:
9
MR. BELLA:
10
Q
11
A
12
is
ta k e n .
ta k e n ?
th e s e —
f o r th e t r u t h
th is
o f th e m a t t e r ,
O b je c t io n o v e r r u le d .
Thank y o u .
P le a s e c o n tin u e ?
O kay.
I was a d v is e d b y P e t t ig r e w
t o d r iv e
in
f r o n t o f th e
r e s id e n c e so t h a t Edw ards c o u ld ta k e a lo o k a t my v e h i c l e .
13
MR. JACKSON:
14
is
n o t r e la t e d
15
s ta t e m e n t.
16
s ta te m e n t w as.
THE COURT:
18
MR. BELLA:
19
Q
20
A
21
t o an a c t i o n
I t 's
17
Y o u r H o n o r, o b j e c t i o n .
r e la t e d
to
I t 's
not —
th is
t h a t he to o k ba sed up on h e a rs a y
e x a c t l y w h a t th e h e a rs a y
O v e r r u le d .
W hat d i d y o u do th e n ?
I
th e n d ro v e i n
f r o n t o f th e
t h a t Lee E dw ards l i v e d
in .
22
Q
And w h a t ty p e o f v e h ic le
23
A
I had a '7 8 b la c k v a n .
24
MR. BELLA:
25
THE COURT:
If
r e s id e n c e t h a t I was a d v is e d
d id yo u have t h a t day?
I may a p p ro a c h th e w it n e s s .
You may.
Y o u r H on or?

Page 32 459
DORSEY - DIRECT
1
2
MR. BELLA:
Q
I hand y o u , D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , w h a t 's been m arked
3
p u rp o s e s o f i d e n t i f i c a t i o n
4
a sk i f
5
y o u can i d e n t i f y
THE COURT:
6
it,
MR. BELLA:
8
THE WITNESS:
A
10
as G o v e rn m e n t's E x h i b i t
an y p o r t i o n o f t h a t e x h i b i t ?
T h is has n o t been in t r o d u c e d b e f o r e , has
No, Y o u r
H o n o r.
These w o u ld be th e tw o s m a ll e n v e lo p e p a c k e ts t h a t
P e t t ig r e w had g iv e n me on th e 1 1 th .
11
Q
And how do yo u know t h a t ?
12
A
I have my i n i t i a l s
13
Q
when d id yo u w r i t e
14
and th e
d a te w r o te
y o u ri n i t i a l s
A
16
Q
17
A
On 6 -1 1 o f
and th e
d a te
on th o s e
'9 0 .
A f t e r M r. P e t t ig r e w
T h a t 's
gave th e p a c k e ts t o you?
c o rre c t.
18
MR. BELLA:
Thank y o u ,
19
THE COURT:
C ro s s D a v is
20
MR. TR U ITT:
21
THE COURT:
.
I
have n o t h in g
No q u e s t io n s .
Y o u r H o n o r.
C ro s s D u r r .
MR. MCGRATH:N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r.
23
THE COURT;
24
MR. JACKSON;
25
on t h e r e .
p a p e r p a c k e ts ?
15
22
64 and
c o u n s e l?
7
9
fo r
C ro s s E d w a rd s.
Thank y o u . Y our H o n o r.
fu rth e r.

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DORSEY - CROSS EDWARDS
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY
MR. JACKSON:
1
2
3
Q
D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , d id yo u m a in t a in any ty p e o f c o n t a c t w i t h
4
th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t when he was in s i d e
5
in
A
N o, I had no c o n v e r s a tio n s w i t h h im a t a l l ,
7
Q
So y o u r v i s u a l c o n t a c t ,
8
c o r r e c tly ,
9
th e
if
r e s id e n c e ,
is
T h a t 's
c o rre c t.
11
Q
O kay.
How lo n g was t h i s
in s i d e
th is
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t , M r.
r e s id e n c e ?
13
A
P r o b a b ly a p p r o x im a te ly f i v e
14
Q
D u r in g t h a t f iv e - m in u t e
o r a u d io c o n t a c t w i t h
16
A
T h a t 's
17
Q
Now, d e s c r ib e
A
I
p e r io d o f t im e , y o u had no v i s u a l
th is
in fo r m a n t?
c o rre c t.
f o r me i f
c o u ld see th e f r o n t ,
th e
20
21
m in u te s .
you w i l l ,
y o u r e x a c t v a n ta g e p o i n t
o f th e h o u s e , w h a t c o u ld yo u see o f t h i s
18
19
tim e when he e n te r e d
th a t c o rre c t?
A
P e t t ig r e w ,
Q
no.
I u n d e r s ta n d y o u r te s t im o n y
was l o s t a t th e p o i n t i n
10
15
r e s id e n c e
G ary?
6
12
th e
re s id e n c e ?
w o u ld have been th e
fro n t p a rt o f
r e s id e n c e .
O ka y.
And t o
th e b e s t o f y o u r k n o w le d g e , d i d
th is
r e s id e n c e have a b a ck d o o r?
22
23
A
I 'm
s o rry ?
24
Q
D id t h i s
25
A
I
r e s id e n c e have a b a ck d o o r o r a s id e d o o r?
c a n 't r e c a l l .

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DORSEY - CROSS EDWARDS
1
Q
Can y o u d e s c r ib e
2
A
I t 's
f o r me th e
a tw o -s to ry ,
I b e lie v e
3
q u ite
4
r e s id e n c e ,
f r o n t p a r t o f th e
d e fin ite ly
re s id e n c e ?
it
was w h ite
a fe w b la c k s e c u r i t y b a rs i f
c o lo r .
Had
remember r i g h t on th e
r e s id e n c e .
5
Q
So t h i s
6
A
If
7
Q
And i t ' s
8
A
I b e lie v e
9
Q
No cha nce i t
was a o n e - s t o r y house?
10
A
I b e lie v e
was a t w o - s t o r y .
11
Q
Was t h i s
12
A
I 'm
13
Q
Y o u 'r e n o t f a m i l i a r .
So d u r in g
14
t im e , was i t
f o r th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t t o
15
in
I
is
I
in
remember r i g h t ,
a t w o - s t o r y house?
yes.
w h ite ?
so.
it
on 460 T a f t ,
does t h a t sound r i g h t ?
n o t f a m ilia r —
th e
p o s s ib le
th is
fiv e - m in u te
p e r io d o f
f r o n t d o o r and o u t th e b a ck d o o r?
16
A
T h a t 's p o s s i b l e .
17
Q
D id yo u s e a rc h t h i s
18
A
S p e c ia l A g e n t B e c k e r d i d .
19
Q
B u t yo u d i d n ' t p e r s o n a lly ?
20
A
N o, s i r .
21
Q
B e fo r e o r a f t e r ?
22
A
N o, s i r .
23
Q
And y o u have no p e r s o n a l k n o w le d g e as t o who owns t h a t
r e s id e n c e , do you?
24
25
A
N o, s i r .
in fo r m a n t?
go

Page 35 DORSEY - REDIRECT
1
MR. JACKSON:
2
THE COURT:
N o th in g f u r t h e r ,
462
Y o u r H o n o r.
R e d ir e c t G o v e rn m e n t.
3
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY
MR. BELLA:
4
5
Q
W here was t h i s
re s id e n c e
6
A
In
7
Q
1 5 th and T a f t .
8
A
I t was a s id e
9
Q
So i t
10
A
I 'm
11
Q
It
12
A
No.
13
Q
1 5 th
and T a f t ?
14
A
1 5 th
I b e l ie v e .
a g a in ?
th e a re a o f 1 5 th and T a f t .
And w h a t
s tre e t o ff
s tre e t
d id y o u p a rk on?
th e s t r e e t t h a t he l i v e d .
w a s n 't n e a r 4 th and T a f t P la c e ?
s o rry ?
w a s n 't a t 4 th and T a f t P la c e t h a t y o u w e re a t?
15
MR. BELLA:
I have no f u r t h e r q u e s t io n s .
16
THE COURT:
R e c ro s s D a v is
17
MR. TRUITT:
18
THE COURT:
19
MR. MCGRATH:
20
THE COURT:
21
MR. JACKSON:
22
THE COURT:
23
24
25
N o th in g ,
Y o u r H o n o r.
R e c ro s s D u r r .
N o th in g , Y o u r
H o n o r.
R e c ro s s E d w a rd s.
N o th in g , Y o u r
H o n o r.
You may s te p dow n, th a n k yo u f o r
c o m in g .
(The w itn e s s was e x c u s e d .)
THE COURT:
w it n e s s , c o u n s e l?
C a ll y o u r n e x t w it n e s s .
W ho's y o u r n e x t

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MR. BELLA:
1
May see i f
2
K a re n P e r tu s o .
You r e a l i z e
4
h a v in g S p e c ia l A g e n t
s h e 's p r e s e n t .
THE COURT:
3
I 'm
M a'am , p le a s e come t o
y o u 'r e
s till
th e w itn e s s
s ta n d .
u n d e r o a th .
5
Do c o u n s e l w a n t th e o a th r e - a d m in is te r e d ?
6
MR. MCGRATH:
7
MR. TRUITT:
8
MR. JACKSON:
9
MR. BELLA:
No, Y o u r H o n o r.
N o, Y o u r H o n o r.
No, Y o u r H o n o r.
No, Y o u r H o n o r.
KAREN L . PERTUSO
10
resum ed th e s ta n d , h a v in g been p r e v i o u s ly d u ly s w o rn t o
t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t th e
t r u t h , was e xa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d f u r t h e r as f o l l o w s :
11
12
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY
MR. BELLA:
13
14
15
Q
W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ?
16
A
K a re n L . P e r tu s o ,
17
Q
And w h a t i s
18
A
I 'm
19
Q
And S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , we u n d e r s ta n d t h a t y o u
s p e lle d P -E -R -T -U -S -0 .
y o u r o c c u p a tio n ?
a s p e c ia l a g e n t w i t h
20
p r e v i o u s ly t e s t i f i e d
21
o a th ?
in
th e F B I.
th is
p r o c e e d in g and a re
22
A
Y es.
23
Q
S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , w ere yo u in v o lv e d
24
in v e s tig a tio n
25
Y e s,
I w as.
o f M r . Edw ards?
in
th e
s till
under

Page 37 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT
1
Q
And w ere p a r t o f y o u r d u t ie s w i t h
2
in v e s tig a tio n ,
3
O c to b e r 1 1 ,
Y es.
5
Q
Were yo u p r e s e n t i n
th e
re s id e n c e a f t e r e n t r y was g a in e d
and d u r in g th e e x e c u tio n o f th e s e a rc h w a r r a n t?
A
I
was t h e r e
f o r a p o r t i o n o f th e t im e .
8
a g e n ts t h a t t r a n s p o r t e d M r. Edw ards t o
9
o f f ic e
sub sequ ent to h is a r r e s t .
10
e n tir e
s e a rc h .
11
Q
12
o c c a s io n t o
o b s e rv e any e v id e n c e
A
Y e s,
14
Q
And w o u ld y o u t e l l us a b o u t t h a t ,
15
A
Y e s.
17
room f l o o r
18
o f a ’ w h it e pow der s u b s ta n c e i n
19
p a ja m a s .
22
had a lr e a d y been s e c u re d .
fo r
th e
d i d y o u ha ve
s e iz e d ?
p le a s e ?
fa c e down and a t t h a t tim e
And w h a t d id you o b s e rv e i f
r e s id e n c e ,
as I
s a id
M r. Edw ards was on th e l i v i n g
h is
I o b s e rv e d a p a c k a g e
re a r p o c k e t o f h is
a n y t h in g w i t h
s u b s ta n c e o r w h a t happened t o
A
I was n o t th e r e
A t th e tim e t h a t I e n te r e d th e
it
21
th e U. S. M a r s h a l's
I d id .
16
Q
I was one o f th e
D u r in g th e p e r io d o f tim e t h a t y o u w ere t h e r e ,
13
20
th e
1 9 9 0 , when th e s e a rc h was c o n d u c te d ?
A
7
re g a r d t o
b e in g p r e s e n t a t 460 T a f t P la c e on
4
6
464
re g a rd to
th a t
it?
S p e c ia l A g e n t V in c e B a lb o o f th e D rug E n fo rc e m e n t
23
A d m i n is t r a t i o n
rem oved t h a t and handed i t
24
s u b s e q u e n tly handed t h a t t o
25
th e FBI who was i n
t o me, and I
S p e c ia l A g e n t M ark B e c k e r o f
c h a rg e o f th e s e a rc h o f th e
r e s id e n c e .

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT
1
Q
And when yo u o b s e rv e d t h i s
w he re w ere —
2
package i n M r. E d w a rd s ' p o c k e t,
i n w h a t room o f th e
3
A
T h is was i n
4
Q
And was S p e c ia l A g e n t B a lb o and S p e c ia l A g e n t B e c k e r t h e r e
A
They w e re th e r e
th e
7
8
room .
w i t h y o u a t t h a t tim e ?
5
6
th e l i v i n g
re s id e n c e was t h i s ?
Q
and th e r e w ere o t h e r a g e n ts a ls o p r e s e n t i n
r e s id e n c e .
D id yo u a ls o
in
c o n n e c tio n w i t h
th is
a ls o have o c c a s io n t o p a r t i c i p a t e
9
in v e s tig a tio n ,
in
d id you
th e m a k in g o f some
10
c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e s o f d ru g s fro m M r. Edw ards b y W a lte r
11
P e ttig r e w ?
12
A
Y es,
I d id .
13
Q
And c o u ld y o u p le a s e t e l l us w h a t y o u r in v o lv e m e n t was i n
th o s e p u rc h a s e s ?
14
T h e re w e re a s e r ie s o f s i x
c o n tr o lle d
16
fro m M r. E dw ards u t i l i z i n g
W a lte r P e t t ig r e w .
17
As th e case a g e n t f o r
18
m oney, 'th e b u y money as we c a l l
19
M r. P e t t ig r e w
20
o c c a s io n s ,
21
p r io r
15
A
to
p u rc h a s e s o f d ru g s
th e i n v e s t i g a t i o n ,
it,
t h a t was p r o v id e d t o
t o make th o s e p u rc h a s e s .
th e b u y s .
A ls o
23
fo llo w in g
24
fro m h im when th e b u ys w e re c o m p le te d .
Q
And on e a ch o f th e
I was p r e s e n t when M r. P e t t ig r e w was s e a rc h e d
22
25
I h a n d le d th e
in v o lv e d
th e b u y s ,
in
s e a r c h in g h i s v e h i c le
p r io r
to
and
and I a ls o o b ta in e d th e d r u g e v id e n c e
D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n
in
p a r tic u la r
to
th e
fir s t
o f th e s e

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1
p u rc h a s e s on M arch 2 3 , 1 9 9 0 ; can you t e l l us w h a t y o u r
2
a c tiv itie s
3
On M arch 23 — t h a t was th e f i r s t
o f th e s i x p u rc h a s e s
4
we m et a t a m o te l i n M e r r i l l v i l l e
t o d e b r i e f M r. P e t t ig r e w
5
and t o
6
c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e .
7
t im e .
8
c o u ld m o n ito r h i s
9
h im w i t h
r o u te
10
w ere and w h a t happened t h a t day?
i n s t r u c t h im as t o w h a t he s h o u ld do d u r in g th e
A t r a n s m i t t e r was p la c e d on h i s
a c tiv itie s
f o r h is
p e rs o n so t h a t we
s a fe ty .
I p r o v id e d
$600 ca s h and he* s u b s e q u e n tly l e f t M e r r i l l v i l l e
t o M r. E d w a rd s '
MR. JACKSON:
11
He was th o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d a t t h a t
r e s id e n c e .
O b je c t io n , Y o u r H o n o r, e x c u s e me.
n o t in
en
12
assum es f a c t s
e v id e n c e and a ls o
13
f o u n d a t io n l a i d
14
THE COURT:
A re y o u g o in g t o
15
MR. BELLA:
Y e s , Y our H o n o r.
16
THE COURT:
O v e r r u le d .
17
MR. BELLA:
a t t h a t s ta g e .
18
Q
W hat w e r e - y o u r i n s t r u c t i o n s
19
A
M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n s t r u c t e d
Move t o
th e re
is
It
no p r o p e r
s tr ik e .
c la r ify
th is ,
c o u n s e l?
t o M r. P e ttig r e w ?
to
c o n t a c t M r. E dw ards and
20
p u rc h a s e , a tt e m p t t o p u rc h a s e a q u a n t i t y o f h e r o in
21
h im .
22
And was he i n s t r u c t e d
23
p ro c e e d t o M r. E d w a rd s '
24
p u rc h a s e ?
25
Y e s , he w as.
fro m
once t h a t p u rc h a s e was a r r a n g e d ,
r e s id e n c e
t o p e r p e tu a te
th a t
to

Page 40 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT
1
Q
2
Now, y o u in d ic a t e d
t h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w was s e a rc h e d b e fo r e
le a v in g t o make t h a t p u rc h a s e ?
3
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4
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5
A
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6
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10
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l e f t w ith
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7
8
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o f th e In d ia n a S ta te P o l i c e .
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s u r v e illa n c e ?
13
A
Y e s,
14
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15
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keys.
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5
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6
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th e k e y s t h a t w ere th ro w n down fro m th e
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d id th e y
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8
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9
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10
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And w h a t happened
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re tu rn e d to M e r r i l l v i l l e .
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13
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w h a t ha ppe ned th e n ?
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t o h im t h a t
was —
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MR. BELLA:
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it 's
h e a rs a y .
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THE COURT:
23
s tr ik e
24
s ta te d .
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L a w re n ce b a c k
Lee E dw ards had r e p r e s e n te d
MR. JACKSON:O b je c t io n ,
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s u r v e illa n c e ?
when he r e t u r n e d t o M e r r i l l v i l l e ,
17
r e s id e n c e .
th e n ?
and E l l a
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do th e n ?
f r o n t d o o r and e n te r e d th e
12
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th o s e k e y s , who a re y o u
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MR. JACKSON:
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MR. BELLA:
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W ith o u t g o in g i n t o w h a t M r. Edw ards t o l d W a lte r P e t t ig r e w ,
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5
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6
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9
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10
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24
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he o b ta in e d fro m M r.
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MR. JACKSON:
3
THE COURT:
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MR. BELLA:
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THE COURT:
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MR. JACKSON:
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Y o u r H o n o r.
t o m eet w i t h M r. E dw ards
p u rc h a s e ?
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14
16
h e a rs a y .
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13
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th e m o t e l, hand you a p a c k e t th e n ?
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is th a t r ig h t?
18
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19
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20
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21
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22
Q
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23
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24
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25
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th e o f f i c e
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p a c k e ts .
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f a s h io n .
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3
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g o in g t o hand y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r p u rp o s e s o f
4
id e n tific a tio n
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5
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6
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th e p a c k e t t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w on
A p r i l 23 o f 1 9 90.
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8
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11
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12
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13
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14
15
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16
n o t p re s e n t fo r th a t.
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A u g u s t 31 o f 1 9 9 0 .
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18
Q
Can y o u ’ t e l l us w h a t ha ppened t h a t day?
19
A
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th e same p ro c e d u re as we had on th e p r e v io u s
20
o c c a s io n s .
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21
in s tr u c te d
22
p u r c h a s in g h e r o in .
23
was s e a rc h e d and he d e p a r te d th e h o t e l en r o u te
24
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to
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on th e w ir e t a p and we w ere i n t e r c e p t i n g
3
and m o n it o r in g th o s e c a l l s
4
s e n t someone t o C h ic a g o .
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MR. JACKSON:
no f o u n d a t io n l a i d
7
th e w i r e t a p .
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8
MR. BELLA:
9
m o n it o r in g th e c a l l s .
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MR. JACKSON:
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W e ll,
n o , n o t as a c o - c o n s p i r a t o r .
THE COURT:
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18
MR. BELLA:
Y e s.
19
th is .
20
a tte n tio n
21
25
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to d ir e c t h e r
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MR. BELLA;
23
24
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H e a rs a y .
17
22
r e c e iv e d fro m
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3
A
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4
a t t e m p t in g t o
5
c o n v e r s a t io n s ; M r. E dw ards
a rra n g e th e p u rc h a s e o f h e r o in and c o c a in e .
MR. JACKSON:
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6
f o u n d a t io n as f a r as M r. E d w a rd s,
7
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THE COURT:
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12
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13
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it
MR. JACKSON:
w ir e ta p .
17
one a c t u a l l y b e in g m o n ito r e d a t t h i s p o i n t .
21
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he eve n
assumes t h a t t h i s
do yo u know i t
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t h a t he i s
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22
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23
MR. JACKSON:
24
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25
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he does t h a t ,
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MR. JACKSON:
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16
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MR. JACKSON:
4
THE COURT:
T h a t'S
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C o u n s e l,
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5
6
MR. BELLA:
Y es.
7
THE COURT:
I 'm
but i f
8
it
is
THE COURT:
10
o v e r r u le
it
s u b je c t so t h a t ,
not c la r ifie d .
MR. JACKSON:
9
g o in g t o
Do I need t o
R e s ta te
it,
re s ta te
th e o b je c t io n ?
th e n I w i l l
s tr ik e
th e e n t i r e
t e s t im o n y .
11
MR. JACKSON:
12
O kay.
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
13
MR. BELLA:
14
15
You t e s t i f i e d
16
a b le t o
17
re fe rre d
t h a t yo u h e a rd th e s e
id e n tify
th e s p e a k e rs on th e s e
r e c o r d in g s y o u
to ?
18
A
Many o f ,th e m , y e s .
19
Q
And a re y o u f a m i l i a r w i t h
20
A
Y es,
21
Q
Were yo u a b le
th e v o ic e
o f Lee E dw ards?
h i s v o ic e
in
I am.
p a r tic u la r
22
r e c o r d in g s ; w e re y o u
to
id e n tify
c o n v e r s a tio n s * y o u 'r e
te llin g
th e
r e c o r d in g ,
us a b o u t now?
23
A
Y e s.
24
Q
And w h a t was — p le a s e c o n tin u e w i t h y o u r te s tim o n y ?
25
MR. JACKSON:
Y o u r H o n o r,
I 'm
g o in g t o o b j e c t .
May we

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a p p ro a c h ?
THE COURT:
2
You may.
(B ench d is c u s s io n on th e
3
MR. JACKSON:
4
F o u n d a tio n .
re c o rd .)
We have a f o u n d a t io n
5
o b je c tio n .
Y o u r H o n o r, as f a r as h e r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n
6
v o ic e and how does she i d e n t i f y h i s v o ic e .
7
THE COURT:
8
MR. JACKSON:
9
Y o u r H o n o r,
1
1
o fte n
15
18
Why d o n 't yo u ask h e r how s h e 's a b le
MR. MCGRATH:
THE COURT:
T h a t 's
th e n a tu r e o f th e o b j e c t i o n .
Your
May we ta k e a m in u te b e fo r e he does
You may.
(T h e re was a pause i n
21
MR. JACKSON:
25
.
th a t?
THE COURT:
24
to
H o n o r.
20
23
ask h e r a f u r t h e r q u e s t io n a b o u t how
h i s v o ic e .
19
22
j u s t w a n t t o make th e o b j e c t i o n .
re c o rd .
I 'll
MR. JACKSON:
16
17
I
s h e 's h e a rd h is v o ic e .
id e n tify
14
Y e s,
f o r th e
THE COURT:
12
13
C o u n s e l, y o u can c ro s s e xa m ine on t h a t .
MR. BELLA:
10
o f h is
th e p r o c e e d in g s . )
M r. B e l l a .
I 'll
w ith d r a w .
I 'll
w ith d r a w th e
o b j e c t i o n and l e t h e r go ahead* and t e s t i f y
THE COURT;
You w ith d r a w a l l
as i t
th e o b j e c t i o n s
s ta n d s .
r e g a r d in g
fo u n d a tio n ?
MR. JACKSON;
I w ith d r a w th e o b j e c t i o n w i t h
re s p e c t to

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her id e n tific a tio n
2
id e n tific a tio n
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o f h i s v o ic e .
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th e
f o u n d a t io n f o r th e
T h e r e 's no need t o
g e t in to
(E nd o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
4
MR. BELLA:
5
6
T h is c o n v e r s a tio n t h a t y o u 'r e
7
r e la te
8
Y e s,
9
he w e n t i n t o
to
it
te llin g
th e d a te on w h ic h t h i s
d id .
c o n t r o l l e d b u y to o k p la c e ?
W hat M r. P e t t ig r e w
th e
us a b o u t, d i d t h a t
i n d ic a t e d happe ned i s
th a t
r e s id e n c e on A u g u s t 31 and p r o v id e d t o M r.
10
E dw ards $3100 f o r th e p u rp o s e o f p u r c h a s in g a q u a n t i t y o f
11
c o c a in e and o f h e r o in .
M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n
12
th e
re s id e n c e
f o r a v e r y lo n g
13
p e r io d o f t im e ,
and we le a r n e d fro m h im and th r o u g h th e
14
c o n v e r s a tio n s t h a t we had in t e r c e p t e d on th e w ir e t a p
15
th e
16
p e r io d o f tim e
17
had p r o v id e d t o h im , M r. P e t t ig r e w had p r o v id e d t o M r.
18
E d w a rd s ,
re a s o n t h a t he was i n
is
th e
r e s id e n c e
su c h a lo n g
t h a t M r. E dw ards s e n t t h a t $3100 t h a t he
t o C h ic a g o .
And t h a t th e p e rs o n he s e n t t o
19
fo r
th a t
20
o f s u p p ly had e n c o u n te re d p o l ic e
21
a t t e m p t in g t o p u rc h a s e h e r o in ,
22
P e t t ig r e w had f r o n t e d
23
th e
24
T h is
25
who was i t ?
C h ic a g o and h i s
o f f ic e r s
s o u rc e
as th e y w e re
and th e money t h a t M r.
t o M r. Edw ards had been l o s t due t o
f a c t t h a t th e s o u rc e o f s u p p ly had been a r r e s t e d .
is
w h a t th e s e c o n v e r s a tio n s b e tw e e n M r. E dw ards and

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A
M r. Edw ards and Raymond
2
Q
T h a t 's w h a t th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n
3
A
4
Q
5
T h a t 's
A
7
Q
D a v is ' p a ra m o u r L o r r a in e
D o re n z o .
w ere a b o u t?
r ig h t.
So t h a t was a t th e same tim e t h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w was t r y i n g
to
6
479
DIRECT
e ffe c t th is
c o n t r o l l e d buy?
C o rre c t.
Now, when yo u sa y M r. P e t t ig r e w
was i n M r. E d w a rd s '
8
re s id e n c e f o r a lo n g t im e , w h a t tim e — p e r io d o f tim e
9
y o u t a l k i n g a b o u t?
10
A
11
Q
12
A
He had been p r o v id e d w i t h
$ 4 ,0 0 0 .
13
Q
And d id yo u m eet w i t h M r.
P e t t ig r e w a g a in a f t e r he l e f t Mr
14
It
a re
was f o r h o u r s .
How much money had y o u p r o v id e d P e t t ig r e w
E d w a rd s ' re s id e n c e ?
15
A
Y es, I d id .
16
Q
And w h a t happened th e n ?
17
A
18
He p r o v id e d t o me a p p r o x im a te ly an e ig h th - o u n c e o f c o c a in e
t h a t he. had t o l d
19
MR. JACKSON:
20
MR. BELLA:
21
me he had p u rc h a s e d fro m M r. E d w a rd s .
O b je c t io n ,
Y o u r H o n o r,
h e a rs a y .
T h a t'S M r. P e t t i g r e w 's s ta t e m e n t.
Your
H o n o r.
22
MR. JACKSON:
23
W hich i s h e a rs a y .
(B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e
24
25
t h a t day?
THE COURT:
tru th
C o u n s e l,
o f th e m a tte r f i r s t ?
is
th is
re c o rd .)
b e in g o f f e r e d
S e c o n d ly ,
is n 't
it
f o r th e
h e a rs a y

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1
u n le s s i t ' s
2
w ith in
MR. BELLA:
480
th e S a n tia g o p r o f f e r ?
Y e s, Y o u r H o n o r.
My q u e s t io n th o u g h , was
3
w h a t h a p p e n e d , and y o u know , and I was a t t e m p t in g t o e l i c i t
4
a re s p o n s e t h a t she was p r o v id e d th e p a c k e ts o f d r u g s ,
5
s e a le d i t
6
and w e n t o n , and w e n t on fro m t h e r e .
THE COURT:
7
So —
Do yo u th e n a g re e w i t h d e f e n d a n t 's
o b je c t io n ?
8
MR. BELLA:
9
Y es.
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
10
THE COURT:
11
o b je c tio n
is
12
P e t t ig r e w
s ta te d
13
th is
14
L a d ie s and g e n tle m e n ,
s u s t a in e d .
is
p o in t.
th e a n sw e r i s
—
The an sw er i n s o f a r as t o w h a t M r.
o rd e re d s t r ic k e n
fro m th e
re c o rd a t
'
MR. BELLA:
15
W ith o u t g o in g i n t o w h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w
16
he o b ta in e d th e s e d r u g s , y o u d id m eet w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w
17
a f t e r he l e f t M r. E d w a rd s '
to ld
y o u a b o u t w h e re
re s id e n c e ?
18
A
Y es.
19
Q
And w h a t d id — w h a t happened when y o u m et w i t h M r.
.
20
P e ttig r e w ?
21
He p r o v id e d t o me a p a c k e t and I m a in ta in e d c u s to d y o f t h a t
22
as I had p r e v i o u s ly ,
23
was s u b m itte d t o
24
f o r a n a ly s is .
25
Q
I
and s u b s e q u e n tly s e a le d i t .
And i t
th e D rug E n fo rc e m e n t L a b o r a t o r y i n
ask yo u t o exa m in e w h a t 's been m arked —
C h ic a g o

Page 54 K.
1
If
2
THE COURT:
3
MR. BELLA:
4
Q
6
A
You may.
W h a t's been m arked as G overnm ent E x h i b i t 66 and a s k i f
Y es.
you
G overnm ent E x h i b i t 66 f o r me, p le a s e ?
T h is i s
th e p a c k e t t h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w p r o v id e d t o me
on t h a t d a te .
7
8
Q
And —
9
A
On S eptem b er 1 .
10
Q
And w h a t d id yo u do w i t h
t h a t p a c k e t t h a t he p r o v id e d t o
you?
11
12
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I may a p p ro a c h . Y our H onor?
can i d e n t i f y
5
PERTUSO -
A
I
re tu rn e d to
and th e n i t
13
th e o f f i c e ,
p la c e d i t
in
th is
bag,
s e a le d i t ,
was p la c e d i n .the e v id e n c e s t o r a g e .
14
Q
And do es y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t on th e to p o f t h a t bag?
15
A
Y es,
16
Q
Thank y o u .
it
does.
And c o u ld yo u t e l l us w h a t th e n e x t c o n t r o l l e d
b u y was t h a t y o u had been in v o lv e d
17
in ?
18
A
The n e x t b u y o c c u r r e d on S eptem b er 5.
19
Q
Can yo u t e l l us w h a t happened t h a t day?
20
A
On t h a t d a y we m et w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w
M e r r illv ille ,
21
was s e a rc h e d ,
22
s e a rc h e d .
23
i n s t r u c t e d h im t o a r ra n g e a p u rc h a s e o f d ru g s fro m M r.
24
E d w a rd s .
25
Q
th e v e h i c le
in
t h a t he was g o in g t o be u s in g was
We p r o v id e d him* w i t h
And w h a t happened a f t e r
he
th a t?
I b e lie v e
$900 i n
c a s h and

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482
DIRECT
and w e n t t o
1522 T a f t S t r e e t ,
e n te r e d t h a t r e s id e n c e .
3
Q
And w h a t th e n ?
4
A
He s u b s e q u e n tly r e tu r n e d t o M e r r i l l v i l l e ,
5
p a c k e ts t h a t I m a in ta in e d c o n t r o l o f u n t i l
6
in
7
th e o f f i c e .
th e bag and s e a le d and p la c e d i n
8
MR.
BELLA:
9
THE
COURT:
10
11
If
th e y w ere p la c e d
th e e v id e n c e
I may a p p ro a c h th e w it n e s s .
s to r a g e
Y o u r H on or?
MR. BELLA:
Q
I hand y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r p u rp o s e s o f
i d e n t i f i c a t i o n as G o v e rn m e n t's E x h i b i t 6 5 ;
13
t h a t f o r me, p le a s e ?
A
15
T h is i s
S eptem b er
’
on
o f 1990.
Q
17
A
Y es, I d id .
18
Q
Does y o u r s e a l s t i l l
19
A
Y e s, i t
20
Q
21
can y o u i d e n t i f y
a p a c k e t I o b ta in e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w
16
And d id yo u s e a l t h a t p a c k e t a t th e to p ?
re m a in i n t a c t ?
does.
And G o ve rnm ent
E x h ib it 67;
can yo u i d e n t i f y
t h a t f o r me,
p le a s e ?
«
22
in
You may.
12
14
p r o v id e d t o me
A
23
Y es, t h is
is
a ls o a p a c k e t t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r.
P e t t ig r e w on t h a t same
24
Q
25
A
d a te .
And d id y o u s e a l t h a t and t h a t bag as w e ll?
Y es, I d id .

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Q
And does y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t ?
2
A
Y e s,
3
Q
4
it
483
DIRECT
does.
Thank y o u .
W hat was th e n e x t c o n t r o l l e d b u y t h a t y o u had
any in v o lv e m e n t w ith ?
5
A
O c to b e r
9.
6
Q
And can y o u t e l l us w h a t happened t h a t day?
7
A
We m et w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w
in M e r r i l l v i l l e ,
8
h im th e a rra n g e m e n t he was t o make
9
h e r o in
10
and a tt e m p t t o p u rc h a s e
fro m M r. E d w a rd s.
He was t h o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d ,
th e v e h i c le
11
g o in g t o be u s in g was t h o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d .
12
h im w i t h
Q
And th e n w h a t happened? •
14
A
He d e p a r te d M e r r i l l v i l l e
G a ry ,
16
I n d ia n a .
17
is
o u t s id e
18
b a sed on h e a rs a y .
MR. BELLA:
20
THE COURT:
21
MR. BELLA:
23
A
Y e s, we
24
Q
O kay.
25
en r o u te
to
I p r o v id e d
460 T a f t P la c e i n
Y o u r H o n o r,
I 'm
g o in g t o
th e w i t n e s s 's p e r s o n a l k n o w le d g e .
19
Q
And
He e n te r e d t h a t r e s id e n c e .
MR. JACKSON:
22
t h a t he was
$9500 i n c a s h .
13
15
d is c u s s e d w i t h
I 'll
o b je c t.
And
T h is
it 's
c l e a r t h a t u p . Y o u r H o n o r.
O v e r r u le d .
D id y o u m a in t a in s u r v e i l l a n c e
t h a t day?
d id .
W hat d id y o u o b s e rv e as y o u m a in ta in e d s u r v e i l l a n c e
t h a t day?

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A
We o b s e rv e d M r. P e t t i g r e w 's
c a r p a rk e d i n
P la c e .
2
3
Q
And w h a t d id yo u o b s e rv e a f t e r
4
A
We d id n o t m a in ta in s u r v e i l l a n c e
5
o f tim e due t o
6
th a t a re a .
7
Q
th a t?
o f h im th e e n t i r e
A
th e f a c t t h a t we w ere e a s i l y d e te c te d i n
So w h a t d id yo u do in s t e a d o f j u s t w a i t i n g
He was e q u ip p e d w i t h
was g o in g on v i a
10
o u t s id e
th e
a t r a n s m i t t e r and we m o n ito r e d w h a t
th a t tr a n s m itte r .
11
Q
And w h a t w e re y o u a b le t o m o n ito r ?
12
A
We w e re a b le t o m o n ito r h i s
in s id e
13
14
p e r io d
re s id e n c e ?
8
9
f r o n t o f 460 T a f t
Q
c o n v e r s a tio n s w i t h p e o p le
t h a t r e s id e n c e . .
Was one o f th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n s a c o n v e r s a t io n w i t h
Lee
E dw ards?
15
16
A
Y e s,
it
w a s.
17
Q
And w e re yo u a b le t o
r e c o g n iz e and i d e n t i f y
th e v o ic e
r e c o g n iz e and i d e n t i f y
h is
of
Lee Edw ards?
18
19
A
Y es.
20
Q
How w e re yo u a b le
21
A
I had h e a rd i t
to
o v e r a p e r io d o f n e a r ly 60 d a y s .
v o ic e ?
I had a ls o
22
been — he had i d e n t i f i f e d h im s e lf on num erous o c c a s io n s
23
d u r in g
24
25
Q
th e c o u rs e o f th e w i r e t a p .
Id e n tifie d
phone?
h im s e lf,
re fe rre d
t o h im s e lf b y name on th e

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T h a t'S
2
Q
A ll
3
4
th is
A
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c o rre c t.
r ig h t.
And as yo u m o n ito r e d th e s e c o n v e r s a tio n s
th e
re s id e n c e
5
o f tim e a g a in .
6
one p o i n t an i n d i v i d u a l e n te r e d th e
7
he had o b s e rv e d tw o w h ite
9
on
d a te , w h a t w e re y o u r o b s e r v a tio n s ?
He — M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n
8
485
DIRECT
And d u r in g th e c o u rs e o f h i s
MR. JACKSON:
a n s w e r,
it 's
f o r a lo n g p e r io d
guys i n
Y o u r H o n o r,
s ta y th e r e ,
at
r e s id e n c e and s a id t h a t
th e n e ig h b o rh o o d .
I 'm
g o in g t o
o b je c t to
th e
ba sed upon d o cum e nts — a p p a r e n t ly t e s t i f y i n g
10
fro m some ty p e o f an e x h i b i t w h ic h has n o t been in t r o d u c e d
11
i n t o e v id e n c e ,
12
t h a t b e in g th e
THE COURT:
13
ta p e .
C o u n s e l.
(B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e
14
THE COURT:
15
MR. JACKSON:
16
h e a rd on a m o n it o r in g
17
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t .
18
ta p e o r w h a t have y o u , has n o t been p r o v id e d as e v id e n c e a t
19
t h is p o in t.
20
MR. BELLA:
Y our o b je c tio n
O kay.
T h a t do cum e nt has n o t —
it,
22
she has t e s t i f i e d
23
ta p e re c o rd e d c o n v e r s a t io n .
25
MR. JACKSON:
g a in e d t h i s
fro m w h a t s h e 's
r e c o r d in g d e v ic e p la c e d u p on th e
She h a s n 't t e s t i f i e d
s h e 's t e s t i f y i n g
c o u n s e l.
S h e 's t e s t i f y i n g
21
24
a g a in ,
re c o rd .)
a b o u t a ta p e .
or
t h a t s h e 's m o n ito r e d
S h e 's t e s t i f i e d
a b o u t th e m o n ito r e d c o n v e r s a t io n s ,
W e ll,
t h a t 's
th e v e h i c le
k n o w le d g e was t h a t t h e r e 's
th a t
th a t —
not a
b y w h ic h she
a ta p e ,
a r e c o r d in g .

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THE COURT:
2
in o n ito ir in g i s w h a t I
3
s a y in g .
Is
B u t she l i s t e n e d
MR. BELLA:
5
MR. JACKSON:
10
Y e s, t h a t ' s
THE COURT:
O kay.
c o rre c t,
I 'll
Y o u r H o n o r.
w ith d r a w th e o b j e c t i o n
th e n .
O b je c t io n i s w ith d r a w n .
(B ench d is c u s s io n on th e
8
9
c o u n s e l?
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
6
7
t h i n k w h a t G overnm ent c o u n s e l i s
th a t c o rre c t,
4
t o w h a t she was
THE COURT:
G e n tle m e n ,
it 's
re c o rd .)
te n o ' c l o c k ,
how lo n g a re yo u g o in g t o be w i t h
th is
I d o n ' t kno w ,
w itn e s s ?
11
MR. BELLA:
T h is w i l l be a lo n g w it n e s s . Y o u r H o n o r.
12
THE COURT:
Do y o u w a n t t o
13
14
w ant to
ta k e
it
a t 1 0 :1 5 o r i s
MR. BELLA:
I th in k
15
she was in v o lv e d
16
d ru g s fro m t h i s
17
b re a k .
in .
buy,
th is
Maybe I
ta k e a b re a k now o r do y o u
t h e r e a c o n v e n ie n t p la c e ?
is
th e l a s t o f th e b u y s t h a t
can have h e r i d e n t i f y
t h a t m ig h t be a c o n v e n ie n t p la c e
18
THE COURT:
J u s t l e t me know .
19
MR. BELLA:
O kay.
to
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
20
21
th e
MR. BELLA:
22
These c o n v e r s a tio n s
t h a t y o u h e a rd ,
23
a ta p e
24
fro m a c t u a l l y h e a r in g o v e r a t r a n s m i t t e r o f th e
25
c o n v e r s a t io n s as th e y to o k p la c e ?
r e c o r d in g t h a t y o u l i s t e n e d
a re y o u t e s t i f y i n g
fro m
t o o r a re y o u t e s t i f y i n g

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1
A
2
T h a t c o n v e r s a tio n w a s n 't r e c o r d e d .
it
487
I t w a s n 't a r e c o r d e r ,
was a t r a n s m i t t e r , .
3
Q
And w h a t does a t r a n s m i t t e r do?
4
A
It
b a s ic a lly —
it 's
5
w e 'r e a b le t o l i s t e n
6
v e h ic le s .
lik e
a r a d io
t o o v e r th e
s ig n a l,
r a d io s
I
g u ess t h a t
t h a t we have i n
7
Q
W hat i s
th e p u rp o s e o f h a v in g a t r a n s m i t t e r ?
8
A
I t 's
th e e s s e n t i a l p u rp o s e o f h a v in g a t r a n s m i t t e r i s
—
9
f o r th e —
in
10
s u re t h a t ,
yo u know , h e 's n o t h a v in g a n y p r o b le m .
11
Q
12
th is
c a s e , M r. P e t t i g r e w 's
our
s a f e t y t o make
And d i d y o u h e a r Lee Edw ards g iv e a n y i n s t r u c t i o n s
o v e r th e
tr a n s m itte r ?
13
A
Y es.
14
Q
W hat was t h a t ?
15
A
He a ske d M r. P e t t ig r e w
if
16
in
see i f
17
n e ig h b o rh o o d t h a t he m ig h t t h i n k was la w e n fo r c e m e n t.
th e n e ig h b o rh o o d t o
18
Q
W hat h a ppe ned a f t e r
19
A
M r. P e t t ig r e w
he w o u ld go o u t and ha ve a lo o k
he c o u ld d e t e c t anyone i n
th a t?
s u b s e q u e n tly e x it e d
20
fe m a le .
21
p a s s e s th r o u g h th e n e ig h b o rh o o d .
th e
They e n te r e d h i s v e h i c l e ;
r e s id e n c e w i t h
s p e c ific a lly ,
23
th e
b u t 10 t o
a
th e y made a c o u p le
I
th in k
—
«
22
th e
I
c a n 't r e c a ll
.
m in u te s l a t e r
th e y r e - e n t e r e d
r e s id e n c e a t 460 T a f t P la c e .
24
Q
And w h a t was th e n e x t t h i n g y o u o b s e rv e d ?
25
A
The n e x t t h i n g we o b s e rv e d was M r.
P e t t ig r e w
le a v in g
th e

Page 61 K.
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A f t © r M r. P 0 t t ig r 0 w
l0 ft
th© r c s id a n c c and h©ad©d b a ck
to w a rd M © r r i l l v i l l © , w h a t happened th e n ?
3
4
A
th e m o te l room and I o b ta in e d fro m h im tw o
We m et h im i n
p a c k e ts t h a t he had been i n s t r u c t e d
5
6
Q
W hat d i d y o u do w i t h
7
A
I m a in ta in e d c u s to d y o f th e m ,
th o s e tw o p a c k e ts ?
9
MR. BELLA;
If
10
THE COURT:
You may.
11
MR. BELLA:
r e tu r n e d t o
Q
S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o ,
14
if
A
16
yo u can i d e n t i f y
th a t,
p le a s e ?
one o f th e p a c k e ts t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r .
Y e s, t h i s
is
P e t t ig r e w
on O c to b e r 1 0 .
Q
And d i d yo u s e a l th e p a c k e t i n
18
A
Y e s,
19
Q
D id does y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t ?
20
A
Y es,
21
Q
And a ls o
t h a t bag?
I d id .
it
does.
I
ask y o u t o
exa m ine w h a t 's been m arked as
G o ve rnm ent E x h i b i t 69 and a sk yo u t o
22
A
Y e s,
th is
is
Q
id e n tify
th a t.
p le a s e ?
th e p a c k e t t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w
on O c to b e r 1 0 .
24
Y o u r H on or?
as G o ve rnm ent E x h i b i t 68 and a s k
17
25
and
I hand yo u w h a t 's been m arked f o r
p u rp o s e s o f i d e n t i f i c a t i o n
23
th e o f f i c e
I may a p p ro a c h th e w it n e s s ,
13
15
t o p u rc h a s e .
s e a le d th e m .
8
12
488
DIRECT
r0 s id 6 n c e a n d / you knoW/ h © a d in g b a ck to w a rd M © r r i l l v i l l 0 .
1
2
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And d i d y o u s e a l th e p a c k e t i n
t h a t bag?

Page 62 K.
1
A
2
Q
3
A
Y e s,
489
DIRECT
I d id .
And does y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t ?
Y e s,
4
5
PERTUSO -
it
does.
MR. BELLA:
Y our H o n o r,
s u b je c t m a tte r w i t h
th is
a b o u t to
w i t n e s s 's
tu rn
THE COURT:
th e te s t im o n y o f t h i s
7
be a le n g t h y —
8
MR. BELLA:
I b e lie v e
9
THE COURT:
Why d o n 't we ta k e o u r b re a k
it
w ill
t o a new
t e s t im o n y .
6
10
Is
I 'm
w itn e s s g o in g t o
be.
r ig h t
now,
c o u n s e l.
11
MR. BELLA:
A ll
12
THE COURT:
L a d ie s and g e n tle m e n , i t ' s
R a th e r th a n t o
Thank y o u .
f i v e m in u te s
13
a fte r
14
th e m id d le o f a d i f f e r e n t a r e a , w e ' l l ta k e o u r b re a k r i g h t
15
now.
16
te n .
r ig h t.
go on and b re a k th e te s t im o n y i n
Remember th e a d m o n itio n ,
la d ie s
and g e n tle m e n ,
th a t
17
th e C o u rt has g iv e n t o yo u a t e v e r y b r e a k ; do n o t d is c u s s
18
th is
19
it
20
fo rm o r e x p re s s a n y o p in io n
21
fin a lly
22
M a rs h a l u p s t a i r s .
case among y o u r s e lv e s ,
w i t h y o u o r i n y o u r p re s e n c e .
s u b m itte d t o y o u .
23
It
is y o u r d u ty
on t h i s case
W ith t h a t ,
u n til
n o t to
i t is
y o u may f o l l o w
th e
'
(The j u r y w ere e s c o r te d fro m th e c o u r tr o o m ,
and th e f o l l o w i n g p r o c e e d in g s w e re h a d ,
r e p o r t e d as f o l l o w s : )
24
25
do n o t p e r m it anyone t o d is c u s s
THE COURT:
You may be s e a te d .
A n y th in g c o u n s e l w a n t

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t o a d d re s s th e C o u rt a b o u t b e fo r e we ta k e o u r m id m o rn in g
2
re c e s s ?
3
MR. TRUITT;
N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r.
4
MR. MCGRATH:
5
THE COURT:
N o th in g .
Why d o n 't yo u g e t a cup o f c o f f e e , w e ' l l
ta k e a fe w m in u te
6
re c e s s .
(T h e re was a re c e s s t a k e n . )
7
THE COURT:
8
a b o u t b e fo r e
9
I
A n y th in g c o u n s e l w is h t o a d d re s s th e C o u r t
c a l l th e
j u r y down?
10
MR. TR U ITT:
11
MR. McGRATH;
N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r.
12
MR. JACKSON:
No, Y o u r H o n o r.
13
MR. BELLA:
Np, Y o u r H o n o r.
14
THE COURT:
C a ll th e j u r y .
15
M is s P e r tu s o ,
if
y o u w is h , y o u can ta k e
th e
s ta n d
a g a in .
16
(The j u r y w ere e s c o r te d i n t o
and th e t r i a l was resum ed i n
r e p o r t e d as f o l l o w s ; )
17
18
19
THE COURT;
20
M r. B e l l a ,
th e c o u r tr o o m ,
open c o u r t ,
You may be s e a te d .
y o u may c o n tin u e w i t h y o u r d i r e c t
e x a m in a tio n .
21
MR. BELLA;
22
23
No, Y o u r H o n o r.
Q
Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r.
S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o ,
24
in te r c e p tio n
25
in v e s tig a tio n ,
th e r e was a T i t l e
o r d e r t h a t was e n te r e d w i t h
is
th a t c o rre c t?
III
w ir e
re g a rd to
th is

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A
Y e s,
2
Q
And an e x te n s io n o f t h a t o r d e r ,
3
A
T h a t 's
4
Q
And w h a t w ere y o u r a c t i v i t i e s
5
it
491
is .
is
th a t r ig h t?
c o rre c t.
in te r c e p tio n
w ith
re g a r d t o
th e w ir e
o rd e r?
6
A
I p r e p a re d th e a f f i d a v i t i n
s u p p o r t o f th e o r d e r .
7
Q
D id yo u have o c c a s io n a f t e r
t h a t o r d e r was e n te r e d and
8
c o n v e r s a tio n s w ere m o n ito r e d t o
9
th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n s and t o exa m ine th e d a ta and i n f o r m a t i o n
10
as i t
1
1
o rd e r?
lis te n
came b a ck as a r e s u l t o f t h a t w ir e
12
A
I
13
Q
Was an i n d i v i d u a l b y th e name o f L i t t l e
14
to
lis te n e d
th e — a n y o f
in te r c e p tio n
t o many o f th e c o n v e r s a t io n s ,
n o t a l l o f th e m .
James i n t e r c e p t e d
on th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n s ?
15
A
Y e s , on num erous o c c a s io n s .
16
Q
In
17
th e e a r l y s ta g e s o f th e i n v e s t i g a t i o n ,
had yo u i d e n t i f i e d w h a t
18
A
19
Q
20
L ittle
Jam es' t r u e
d id y o u know o r
l a s t name was?
N o.
i n t i m a t e l y w e re y o u a b le t o
i d e n t i f y w hat h is
l a s t name
was?
21
A
Y e s,
22
Q
And how do y o u now know
23
A
As James D a v is .
24
Q
25
A
I w as.
L ittle
James?
And was t h e r e a n y o t h e r name t h a t he was known by?
James J e f f e r i e s .

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Q
DiTciwincf y o u r a t t e n t i o n
t o a d i f f e r e n t s u b je c t now, and
2
d r a w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n b a ck t o
th e d a y o f th e
s e a rc h ,
3
O c to b e r 1 1 ,
4
460 T a f t P la c e a t th e tim e o f th e s e a rc h and o b s e rv e d some
5
e v id e n c e s e iz e d fro m M r. E d w a rd s,
1 9 9 0 , yo u in d ic a t e d t h a t y o u w ere p r e s e n t a t
t h a t 's
is
th a t r ig h t?
6
A
Y e s,
c o rre c t.
7
Q
D id y o u have a n y f u r t h e r c o n t a c t w i t h M r. E dw ards t h a t day?
8
A
Y e s,
9
Q
And c o u ld yo u t e l l us w h a t t h a t was?
10
A
Y e s.
I d id .
M r. E dw ards was t r a n s p o r t e d b a ck t o
11
b u ild in g
12
i n i t i a l h e a r in g ,
13
a n o th e r s p e c ia l a g e n t o f th e F B I, James K la v e r .
14
Q
A
Q
and he was in t e r v ie w e d b y m y s e lf and
i n t e r v i e w i n g M r. E d w a rd s , d id y o u u n d e r ta k e a n y
Y e s, we d i d .
We a d v is e d h im o f h i s
r ig h ts
And when yo u sa y y o u a d v is e d h im o f h i s
t e l l u s e x a c t l y w h a t th o s e
19
20
p e n d in g h i s
as th e y a p p e a r
on a fo rm t h a t we r o u t i n e l y u t i l i z e .
17
18
And b e fo r e
th e U n ite d S ta te s M a r s h a l's O f f i c e
v e ry
p ro c e d u re s ?
15
16
to
th is
A
I have one o f th o s e
r ig h ts
r ig h ts ,
can y o u
a re ?
fo rm s h e re w i t h me.
W ould y o u l i k e
me
to —
21
22
Q
W ould y o u t e l l us e x a c t l y w h a t r i g h t s
23
A
We a d v is e d M r. Edw ards t h a t b e fo r e we a s k e d h im any
24
q u e s t io n s ,
he m u st u n d e r s ta n d h i s
25
he had th e
r ig h t to
re m a in s i l e n t .
y o u a d v is e d h im o f?
r ig h ts .
We t o l d
We t o l d
h im t h a t
h im t h a t

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1
a n y t h in g t h a t he m ig h t sa y c o u ld be use d a g a in s t h im i n
2
C o u rt.
3
We t o l d
h im t h a t he had th e
r ig h t to
ta lk
to
an
4
a t t o r n e y f o r a d v ic e b e fo r e we a ske d h im a n y q u e s t io n s ,
5
a ls o t h a t he had a r i g h t t o have an a t t o r n e y p r e s e n t w i t h
6
h im as we we q u e s t io n in g h im .
7
c o u l d n 't a f f o r d
8
a p p o in te d .
9
And we t o l d
an a t t o r n e y ,
h im t h a t i f
We t o l d
h im t h a t i f
he
he c o u ld have an a t t o r n e y
he d e c id e d t o a n sw e r q u e s t io n s
10
w i t h o u t an a t t o r n e y ,
11
a n s w e rin g q u e s tio n s a t any tim e and he w o u ld have th e
12
to
13
a tto rn e y .
14
Q
he w o u ld have th e
A f t e r a d v is in g M r. Edw ards o f th o s e r i g h t s ,
A
Y e s, he d i d .
17
Q
And d id he i n d ic a t e
18
A
He d i d .
r ig h t
an
he u n d e r s to o d th o s e
He in d ic a t e d
s ig n e d th e
r ig h ts ?
t h a t he u n d e r s to o d ,
fo rm i n d i c a t i n g
and i n
t h a t he w a iv e d h i s
Q
And d i d he p ro c e e d t o — w h a t happened th e n ?
21
A
Then we p ro c e e d e d t o q u e s t io n h im .
22
Q
And he a g re e d t o
23
A
Y e s , he d i d .
24
Q
W ould y o u t e l l us w h a t M r. Edw ards i n d ic a t e d
i n t e r v ie w ?
d id he i n d i c a t e
r ig h ts ?
20
25
to
s to p
,
16
19
r ig h t to
s to p a n s w e rin g a t a n y tim e u n t i l he t a l k e d
w h e th e r he u n d e r s to o d th o s e
15
and
f a c t he
r ig h ts .
t a l'k w i t h you?
in
th a t

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A
We t a lk e d a b o u t h is d ru g d i s t r i b u t i o n
a c tiv itie s .
He
2
i n d ic a t e d
t h a t he had been d e a lin g h e r o in and c o c a in e o f f
3
and on f o r a p p r o x im a te ly e i g h t y e a r s ,
4
He named f o r us th e p e o p le t h a t he was r e c e i v i n g d ru g s
5
fr o m .
6
Q
T h a t w o u ld be h i s
7
A
H is s o u rc e s o f s u p p ly ;
th e p a s t e i g h t y e a r s .
s o u rc e s o f s u p p ly ?
8
M a tth e w s .
9
o f s u p p ly f o r c o c a in e .
i n c l u d i n g an i n d i v i d u a l named R o b e rt
He in d ic a t e d
t h a t R o b e rt M a tth e w s was h i s
s o u rc e
He named an i n d i v i d u a l t o us t h a t he s a id was known t o
10
11
h im as M oose.
12
d i d n ' t know M o o s e 's t r u e
13
o r is
14
t h a t was th e t r u e name.
it
And when I a ske d h im — he in d ic a t e d
name.
And I a s k e d h im c o u ld i t
Raymond D a v is and he re s p o n d e d t h a t i t
Raymond D a v is , he t o l d
15
w as,
be
th a t
us he had known f o r
16
a p p r o x im a t e ly a y e a r ;
17
an i n d i v i d u a l named W i l l i e
18
p r o v id e d money t o W i l l i e
19
Raymond D a v is on h i s b e h a l f .
t h a t he had m et Raymond D a v is th r o u g h
W ord.
That i n i t i a l l y
Word t o p u rc h a s e h e r o in
20
0
On whose b e h a lf ?
21
A
On M r. E d w a rd s ' b e h a l f .
22
Q
O th e r th a n R o b e rt. M a tth e w s and Raymond D a v is —
w ith
t h a t he
he had
fro m
fir s t
of
23
a ll,
r e g a r d t o Raymond D a v is , d id M r. E dw ards i n d i c a t e
24
w h a t ty p e s o f d ru g s he w o u ld p u rc h a s e fro m Raymond D a v is
25
and i n w h a t q u a n t it ie s ?

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1
B la c k t a r h e r o in .
2
s m a ll q u a n t i t i e s
3
in d ic a t e d
4
b la c k h e r o in
And he s a id i n i t i a l l y
fro m h im .
A t th e tim e o f h i s
a rre s t,
he
t h a t he had been p u r c h a s in g ounce q u a n t i t i e s
of
fro m M r. D a v is a p p r o x im a te ly e v e r y w ee k.
He a ls o s a id t h a t he had t r a v e l e d
5
he was p u r c h a s in g
t o C h ic a g o on tw o
6
o c c a s io n s h im s e lf t o p ic k up h e r o in
7
i n d ic a t e d t h a t M r. D a v is had d e liv e r e d h e r o in t o
8
he a ls o
9
Edw ards t o C h ic a g o on s e v e r a l o c c a s io n s t o p u rc h a s e h e r o in
i n d ic a t e d
fro m M r. D a v is .
t h a t he had s e n t h i s
h im .
fro m M r. D a v is .
1
1
D id he i n d i c a t e w h a t he was p a y in g p e r ounce o f b la c k
12
h e r o in ?
13
I
14
ounce.
15
O th e r th a n R o b e rt M a tth e w s and Raymond D a v is , d i d M r.
16
E dw ards t a l k
17
u tiliz e d
18
He i d e n t i f i e d
19
goes a ls o b y th e name o f C uz.
20.
p u rc h a s e d h e r o in
21
a ls o
22
W ord.
ta r
he s a id t h a t a t th e tim e he was p a y in g $ 7 ,0 0 0 p e r
to
a b o u t any o t h e r s o u rc e s o f s u p p ly t h a t he
s to c k h i s
i n d ic a t e d
d ru g t r a f f i c k i n g
o r g a n iz a t io n ?
an i n d i v i d u a l known as R o b e rt B u r r e l l who
He s a id t h a t he had
fro m M r. B u r r e l l o f f and o n .
He I b e lie v e
t h a t he had m et M r. B u r r e l l th r o u g h W i l l i e
•
And th e n he i d e n t i f i e d
23
And
b r o t h e r J im m ie
10
b e lie v e
He
24
A b i,
and he i n d ic a t e d
25
w h it e h e r o in .
an i n d i v i d u a l known t o h im as
t h a t A b i was h i s
s o u rc e o f s u p p ly f o r
He s a id t h a t he had known h im f o r

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DIRECT
1
a p p r o x iin a t f ily the©© y © a rs and t h a t h© had b©©n in tr o d u c © d
2
t o h im b y an i n d i v i d u a l named M ik e , and h© d id n o t know h i s
3
l a s t name b u t h© had m et M ike th r o u g h an i n d i v i d u a l named
4
E d d ie P a s k e l.
5
He s a id t h a t d u r in g th e c o u rs e o f t h i s
6
t h a t he had been d e a lin g d r u g s , he was d o in g i t
7
and t h a t a t th e tim e t h a t he m et A b i he h a d n 't been d e a lin g
8
]^0j-Q in f o r a w h ile b u t t h a t A b i had t h i s
9
was s o m e th in g new and d i f f e r e n t and he began d e a lin g h e r o in
Q
w h it e h e r o in and i t
A b i.
F o r p u rp o s e s o f c o n v e n ie n c e w o u ld y o u s p e l l t h a t
A -B -B -E -A ?
12
13
A
T h a t 's
14
Q
Or a t l e a s t t h a t ' s
15
A
P h o n e t i c a ll y ,
yes.
16
Q
Is
f u l l name,
c o rre c t.
t h a t A b i 's
.
how y o u s p e l l i t
is
w h e th e r t h a t ' s
t h a t y o u r u n d e r s ta n d in g ,
or
does he have a n o th e r name?
17
18
A
H is t r u e
19
Q
Y e s,
20.
A
N o, h i s
21
Q
Thank y o u .
M r. E dw ards t o l d
tr a ffic k in g
o r g a n iz a t io n on O c to b e r 1 1 ,
22
23
o f f and on
a g a in , b e in g s u p p lie d b y A b i.
10
11
e ig h t y e a rs
'■
is
name?
t h a t h is
tru e
fu ll
name, A b i?
name i s A b io d u n .
T h a t 's A - B - I- O - D - U - N .
y o u th e s e
fa c ts
a b o u t h is
d ru g
1 9 9 0 , when y o u m et
w i t h him ?
24
A
25
Q
Y e s, he d i d .
Lee E d w a rd s , who y o u m et w i t h h e re on O c to b e r 1 1 ,
1 9 9 0 , he

Page 70 K.
1
r e la y e d t h i s
2
c o u rtro o m to d a y ?
3
A
Y e s, I d o .
4
Q
I w onder i f
5
6
A
497
CROSS DURR
in f o r m a t io n t o y o u ; do you see h im i n
th e
yo u w o u ld p o i n t o u t w here h e 's lo c a t e d and
d e s c r ib e b r i e f l y w h a t h e 's
7
w e a rin g ?
H e 's s e a te d a t th e t a b le w e a rin g a brow n s u i t ,
w h it e
s h ir t,
tie .
8
MR. BELLA;
9
Y o u r H o n o r, w o u ld th e
w itn e s s has i d e n t i f i e d
10
THE COURT:
11
MR. JACKSON;
12
THE COURT;
13
MR. BELLA:
14
n o t h in g
THE COURT;
16
MR. TRUITT;
17
THE COURT;
r e f l e c t th e
Lee A ndrew E d w a rd s .
A ny o b je c t io n ?
No o b j e c t i o n .
’
So i n d ic a t e d .
Thank y o u .
S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s p ,
I have
C ro s s .
No q u e s t io n s .
D a v is .
18
C ro s s
Y our H o n o r.
D u rr.
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY
MR. MCGRATH;
.
19
Q
th e d e fe n d a n t,
re c o rd
fu rth e r.
15
20
PERTUSO -
S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , y o u — y o u 'r e
21
means y o u 'r e more o r le s s
22
c o o r d in a t in g
23
c o rre c t?
th e
24
A
T h a t 's
25
Q
The FB I came i n t o
•
th e case a g e n t w h ic h
th e a g e n t i n
j. n v e s t i g a t io n
c h a rg e o f
f o r th e F B I,
is
th a t
.
c o rre c t.
th is
in v e s tig a tio n
a f t e r an e x t e n s iv e

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1
p e r io d o f t im e ,
2
D ru g E n fo rc e m e n t A d m i n is t r a t i o n ,
3
A
in v e s tig a tio n
5
in v e s tig a tio n .
Q
7
is
o r th e
th a t c o rre c t?
a t th e tim e t h a t we e n te r e d o r opened o u r
And y o u r c o o r d in a t io n was th r o u g h V in c e B a lb o ,
a g e n t o f th e DEA, i s
s p e c ia l
th a t c o rre c t?
8
A
T h a t 's
9
Q
H a v in g c o o r d in a te d w i t h
c o rre c t.
them and jo in e d
in
th e m , y o u
10
p r o v id e d a s s e ts w h ic h in c lu d e d m anpow er, e q u ip m e n t, m oney,
11
w h a te v e r?
12
A
The a rra n g e m e n t was t h a t we fo rm e d a ta s k
13
FB I was th e le a d a g e n c y i n
14
c o n n e c tio n w i t h
15
In d ia n a p o lis
16
me.
17
Q
18
w
o r in v o lv e m e n t b y th e d e p a rtm e n t —
The D rug E n fo rc e m e n t A d m i n is t r a t i o n had an open
4
6
498
A
20
Q
The
t h a t i n v e s t i g a t i o n w o r k in g i n
S ta te P o lic e —
In d ia n a S ta te P o l i c e ,
And as th e case a g e n t f o r th e FBI th e n ,
T h a t 's
case.
th e D rug E n fo rc e m e n t A d m i n is t r a t i o n
change o f th e w h o le
19
fo rc e
and th e
excuse
a r g u a b ly y o u 'r e
in
th in g ?
c o rre c t.
The T i t l e
III
in te r c e p ts ,
th e r e was a p e r io d o f 60 d a y s , do
21
y o u ha ve an id e a o f how many t o t a l p e r t i n e n t i n t e r c e p t s
22
w e re made b y th e m o n ito r in g ?
23
A
H u n d re d s .
24
Q
I t 's
25
A
I 'd
c e r t a i n l y more th a n 8 0 0 , maybe
s a y t h a t w o u ld be f a i r l y
a c c u ra te .
as much as a th o u s a n d ?

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1
Q
And t h i s
was — each o f th o s e 60 d a y s ,
2
A
T h e re w e re —
3
Q
I mean e v e r y day th e r e w o u ld be —— th e r e w o u ld be
in te r c e p ts ,
4
is
th a t c o rre c t?
th e r e was m o n it o r in g e v e r y day?
5
A
E v e ry d a y .
6
Q
Now, th r o u g h th e — when th o s e ta p e s a re t r a n s f e r r e d
7
th e
8
In d ia n a p o lis
9
r e e l - t o - r e e l to d u p lic a te
th e y a re s e n t on t o
t o be t r a n s c r ib e d ?
The r e e l - t o - r e e l ta p e s —
A
s e ts ,
th e o r i g i n a l ta p e s w e re n e v e r
10
to u c h e d a f t e r th e y w ere rem oved fro m th e e q u ip m e n t.
11
a re s t i l l
s e a le d .
12
d u p lic a te
r e e l - t o - r e e l and t h a t was th e w o rk c o p y ,
13
w ill.
14
Q
O kay.
As th e y w ere b e in g r e c o r d e d ,
And I gu ess — w h a t w e n t down t o
16
A
T h a t d u p lic a te
17
Q
And when th e t r a n s c r i p t i o n s
o f c o o r d in a t in g
18
-
t h e r e was a
if
In d ia n a p o lis
you
to
r e e l- to - r e e l.
came b a c k , w e re y o u i n
r e v ie w o f them t o
c h a rg e
see w h a t — how th e y came
o u t and c h e c k in g them t o make s u re t h a t th e y w e re c o r r e c t
A
T h e re was an a g e n t a s s ig n e d t h a t s p e c i f i c
ta s k .
I d id n o t
22
r e v ie w ea ch ta p e and com pare th e ta p e t o
23
b u t th e a g e n t a s s ig n e d t o h a n d le t h a t ta s k d id do t h a t .
24
T h a t was —
25
be
o r in c o r r e c t?
20
21
T h ey
t r a n s c r ib e d ?
15
19
fro m
Q
S p e c ia l A g e n t R oth ?
th e t r a n s c r i p t s ,

Page 73 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR
1
A
Y e s.
2
Q
And was he u n d e r y o u r d i r e c t i o n ?
3
A
A c tu a lly n o t,
be cause d u r in g th e p e r io d o f tim e t h a t t h a t
4
was —
5
m a t e r n i t y le a v e .
6
s u p e r v is o r a t th e t im e .
7
Q
t h a t he was in v o lv e d i n
11
MR. McGRATH;
12
I have —
Q
And I 'm
a —
A
16
Q
18
You may.
D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
g o in g to - p o i n t o u t one t h i n g
E x h ib it 6,
I beg y o u r
Y e s.
I t 's
le t 's
s e e , on O c to b e r 9 ,
And w o u ld th e t r a n s c r i p t s
th is
is
is
1 9 9 0 , a t a p p r o x im a te ly 1 0 :2 0 p .m .
f o r each o f th e c o n v e r s a t io n s be
th a t c o rre c t?
T h a t 's
20
Q
And a 302 i s
21
A
A 302 i s
a re p o r t o f in v e s tig a tio n .
22
F D -3 0 2 .
I t 's
23
p la c e d o n .
I 'm
In —
a t r a n s c r i p t o f a c o n v e r s a t io n t h a t o c c u r r e d ,
c o v e re d b y a 3 0 2 ,
Q
to yo u .
can y o u i d e n t i f y w h a t t h a t is ?
A
25
show
T h a t 's D u rr 6?
19
24
I w ant to
p a rd o n . Y o u r H o n o r.
14
17
o f our
h e r w h a t m arked as D e fe n d a n t's E x h i b i t 6 .
THE COURT;
15
I was on
So he was u n d e r th e d i r e c t i o n
May I a p p ro a c h . Y o u r H o n o r,
10
13
th a t a c t iv it y ,
Now, y o u w o u ld do a n y th in g t o g e t o u t o f w o rk , w o n 't y o u .
8
9
500
c o rre c t.
w h a t, why d o n 't yo u e x p la in w h a t a 302 is ?
j u s t th e
g o in g t o —
in y o u r r e p o r t,
th e
I t 's
a fo rm n u m b e r,
fo rm num ber t h a t th e
re p o rt is
302 has a b ig open spa ce w h e re y o u f i l l
and th e n a t th e b o tto m i t
has who th e

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR
1
a g e n t, when i t
2
in v e s tig a tiv e
3
A
T h a t 's
4
Q
I 'm
5
6
was t r a n s c r ib e d and th e d a te o f th e
w o rk , i s
g o in g t o p o i n t o u t s o m e th in g yo u t o y o u ,
THE COURT:
C o u n s e l,
8
THE COURT:
9
MR. MCGRATH:
c o n c e r n in g —
11
e x h ib it is
n o t in
it
Just —
I 'm
c l e a r i n g s o m e th in g u p .
C o u n s e l,
if
e v id e n c e , y o u may n o t use i t
MR. McGRATH:’
in to
g o in g t o a sk h e r a q u e s t io n
I 'll
.
th e e x h i b i t i s
a t th is
n o t in
p o in t.
o f f e r D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
E x h ib it 6
e v id e n c e . Y o u r H o n o r.
THE COURT:
Show i t
16
MR. BELLA:
May we a p p ro a c h . Y o u r H onor?
17
THE COURT:
You may.
19
e v id e n c e
b e in g used?
15
18
—
I u n d e r s ta n d .
How i s
THE COURT:
13
14
th is
th is
r i g h t now.
MR. Mc Gr a t h :
12
c o rre c t?
r ig h t.
7
10
th a t
,
to
c o u n s e l.
(B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e
MR. BELLA:
I t 's
re c o rd .)
my u n d e r s ta n d in g t h a t th e t r a n s c r i p t s
20
th e m s e lv e s w i l l n o t go i n t o e v id e n c e when th e
21
p la y e d .
22
THE COURT:
23
MR. McGRATH:
24
THE COURT:
25
MR. McGRATH:
They a re n o t e v id e n c e ,
I
c o u n s e l.
u n d e r s ta n d .
I gave a l i m i t i n g i n s t r u c t i o n
I
ta p e s a re
u n d e r s ta n d . Y o u r
to th a t.
H o n o r. I ' l l
p o in t

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR
1
o u t,
th e re
is
2
I 'll
p o in t i t
o n ly one t h i n g
I w a n t t o ask h e r a b o u t.
o u t and maybe -
3
THE COURT:
4
MR. MCGRATH:
Maybe t o
s tip u la te ,
I d o n 't know .
R ig h t h e r e , O c to b e r 9 ,
5
an i n v e s t i g a t i v e
6
j u s t w a n t t o p o i n t o u t one s m a ll t h i n g
7
d o n 't have —
8
o ffe r
9
tr a n s c r ip t i t s e l f .
th e
a c tiv ity .
I 'll
I t 's
ju s t o ffe r
a s m a ll,
1990.
But i t ' s
s m a ll t h i n g ;
I
out about th a t.
th e 302 i n t o
—
I 'll
We
ju s t
3 0 2 , t h a t way we w o n 't have t o have th e
MR. BELLA:
10
And
A re th e r e g o in g t o be a s e r ie s o f th e s e o r
11
12
MR. MCGRATH:
13
MR. BELLA:
14
w ith
it
15
say a b o u t i t
16
w ill
17
a g a in .
No.
The o n ly o n e .
The o n ly o n e .
co m in g i n .
s in c e
I d o n 't know how much t h i s w it n e s s
she d i d n ' t p r e p a re th e
MR. McGRATH:
19
MR. BELLA:
20
Y o u 'r e o f f e r i n g
21
g o in g t o q u e s t io n h e r a b o u t th e
23
MR. BELLA:
25
I
th in k
I have no p ro b le m w i t h
th e t r a n s c r i p t s
MR. McGRATH:
can
A lth o u g h I
t e s t if y
V e ry s m a ll t h i n g .
W e ll,
22
it.
302.
s a y t h a t I e x p e c t S p e c ia l A g e n t R o th w i l l
18
24
I d o n 't have a n y p ro b le m
in
e v id e n c e ,
th e a r e a .
th e n y o u 'r e
302.
Y e s.
A ll
r ig h t.
I am n o t g o in g t o
o b je c t to
—
THE COURT;
W a it a m in u te .
O b v io u s ly w e ' l l need a

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1
b e nch c o n fe re n c e th e n .
2
o ffe re d .
MR. McGRATH:
3
4
THE COURT;
D e fe n d a n t w ith d ra w s D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
E x h ib it 6.
8
10
MR. McGRATH:
D ir e c t y o u r a t t e n t io n
D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
THE COURT;
12
MR. McGRATH;
I 'm
is
th is
in
d o cu m e n ts?
18
r e fr e s h in g
19
it 's
g o in g t o o f f e r o n ly th e
r e c o lle c tio n
MR. McGRATH;
S u re .
n o t h in g e ls e .
I t 's
21
THE COURT;
22
MR. TR U ITT:
if
re c o rd .)
g e t a ro u n d i t
a ll
th e s e
b y way o f
she r e c a l l s w h a t 's on t h e r e .
A ll th a t is
not —
it 's
is
th e
I can s a y i t ' s
o b je c t e d t o
a d m is s ib ility .
24
t h a t h e 's n o t g o in g o b j e c t t o
re p o rt.
Judge,
n o t th e t r a n s c r i p t .
The r e p o r t w o u ld c o v e r t h a t ,
23
MR. BELLA;
302 w h ic h i s
G e n tle m e n , a r e n ' t th e s e h e a r s a y ,
You may be a b le t o
its
as
C o u n s e l.
THE COURT;
17
id e n tifie d
e v id e n c e ?
(B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e
16
25
302 t h a t i s
E x h ib it 6.
THE COURT;
15
20
th e
C o u n s e l,
D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
14
to
and p o i n t o u t t o you tw o m a t t e r s .
11
13
I w ith d r a w th e o f f e r o f D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
6
9
has been
6 , Y o u r H o n o r.
5
7
D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
c o u n s e l.
a d m is s ib le u n le s s
som ebody
M r. B e lla has i n d ic a t e d
it.
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is
2
an yw ay.
3
g o in g t o
t o s t if y ?
And I
I p r o b a b ly can ask h im a b o u t i t
suppose yo u can —
THE COURT;
M r. T r u i t t ,
4
to o b je c t.
5
ju s tic e ,
6
can s t a r t o b e y in g th e
7
tim e t o
The C o u rt can on i t s
9
MR. TR U ITT;
10
MR. BELLA;
11
MR. TR U ITT;
12
MR. BELLA;
I
T h a t'S
I
o th e r w is e y o u
r u le s
fro m
a p h i lo s o p h i c a l d is c u s s io n .
suppose my a t t i t u d e
Or somebody e ls e
is
th a t —
f o r a l a t e r d a te ,
Y o u 'r e an a t t o r n e y ,
y o u 'r e
n o t in
but
la w
s c h o o l, p r o f e s s o r .
MR. McGRATH;
W hat I 'm
16
w h ic h a re h e rs and —
17
THE COURT;
d o in g i s
g o in g t o do n e x t w i t h
C o u n s e l,
I 'm
th e T i t l e
c a n 't th e
m e r e ly s e t t i n g
III
up
a p p lic a tio n
same t h i n g be a c h ie v e d
b y s a y in g —
19
MR. McGRATH;
20
THE COURT;
22
of
suppose my —
w h a t I 'm
21
in te r e s ts
r u le s and d is o b e y in g th e
15
18
th e
tim e and we w o n 't have a n y th in g b u t c h a o s .
MR. BELLA;
14
own i n
y o u know , and t o keep a good r e c o r d ,
8
13
I d o n 't know t h a t som ebody has
Then r e f r e s h
The w h o le t h i n g
is
it 's
a s e tu p .
— do y o u know w h a t t h i s
302 s a id ?
r e c o lle c tio n .
MR. McGRATH:
B u t th e p o i n t i s
th e re
23
in c o n s is t e n c y t h a t I w a n t t o p o i n t o u t i n
24
a g e n t.
25
on a n y o f th e — a l l o f th e s e t r a n s c r i p t s ,
I t 's
N o.
r e s o lv e d v e r y s im p ly .
I t 's
is
an
it,
to
th e ca se
th e o n ly m is ta k e
th e w h o le 893 o f

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th e m ,
th is
is
th e o n ly m is ta k e .
MR. BELLA:
2
W e ll,
I d o n 't know t h a t y o u can e s t a b l i s h
t h a t e i t h e r because th e r e may be e v id e n c e —
3
4
MR. McGRATH:
I 'll
5
th r o u g h e v e r y s i n g le
6
th a t I
fo u n d .
be g la d t o go th r o u g h th e m .
one o f th e m ,
I
s ta rte d
S p e c ia l A g e n t R o th 's
to
8
it 's
9
can be q u e s tio n e d a b o u t t h a t ,
THE COURT:
10
th e p a r t i e s
11
th e o n ly m is ta k e
sa y I — my a t t i t u d e
3 0 2 , h e 's g o in g t o
i
13
MR. McGRATH;
t e s t if y ,
In
th e bo d y i t
th e d a te o f i n v e s t i g a t i o n
MR. BELLA;
16
MR. McGRATH:
17
THE COURT:
18
MR. McGRATH:
19
w h o le case i s
20
I 'll
is
it
s a y s O c to b e r 1 0 .
T h e re i s
no o t h e r m is ta k e s .
Why d o n 't yo u g u ys w r i t e
I 'll
w ith d r a w
it.
now ; i t
I t 's
it
—
o u t.
I m ean, th e
was j u s t a s e tu p t h i n g .
MR. McGRATH;
You d i d p r e p a re th e a f f i d a v i t s
25
Y es,
s ir .
can
sa ys O c to b e r 9 and th e n
(E nd o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
a p p lic a tio n ,
you —
a —
w ith d r a w th e s u b m is s io n o f d e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
24
he
I —
gone on t h i s
21
Q
th a t
—
T h a t on one 302 th e r e
15
22
is
s tip u la te ?
MR. BELLA:
th e —
is
I know b y way o f a s t i p u l a t i o n
12
14
th is
I w ent
E v e ry o n e .
MR. BELLA:
7
23
505
is
th a t c o rre c t?
.
f o r th e T i t l e
III
E x h ib it 6.

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Q
And th e o r i g i n a l a p p l i c a t i o n was made on A u g u s t 14 o f 1990?
2
A
I b e lie v e
3
Q
Your —
4
A
5
Q
Y o u r a f f i d a v i t was 44 pages lo n g ?
6
A
I d o n 't r e c a l l
it
was A u g u s t 1 4 .
We i n i t i a t e d
c o v e ra g e on th e 1 6 th .
how many.
7
MR. MCGRATH:
8
THE COURT:
9
MR. McGRATH:
10
Q
11
I 'll
12
THE COURT:
th is
MR. McGRATH:
15
id e n tific a tio n
th a t —
C o u n s e l,
m a rk e d , b u t was
I d o n 't have i t
b e f o r e , b e ca u se
I have
Y e s, I have u se d t h i s
17
A
18
Q
19
A
20
Q
I
21
A
It
was
e n te r e d on
th e 1 4 th by Judge M oody.
22
Q
Y o u 'r e
lo o k in g a t
th e o r d e r ?
25
1.
Your
H o n o r.
Q
24
a D u rr
b e fo re .
16
23
as
E x h i b i t 1 and ask y o u i f
shown t o som ebody
14
H onor?
You may.
show y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r
D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
13
I f I maya p p ro a c h , Y o u r
Does t h a t r e f r e s h
y o u r memory t h a t i t was
44pa ges lo n g ?
Y e s.
You made t h a t a f f i d a v i t on th e 1 3 th o f A u g u s t?
1 4 th .
th in k
if
y o u lo o k a t th e s ig n a t u r e
THE COURT;
C o u n s e l,
th e n t h i s
—
e x h ib it 's
e v id e n c e .
MR. McGRATH:
I u n d e r s ta n d . Y o u r H o n o r.
n o t in
.

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Q
To r e f r e s h y o u r memory.
2
A
1 4 th .
3
Q
I 'm
c o rre c te d .
And i n
THE COURT;
4
r ig h t?
th a t a p p lic a tio n
or —
Why d o n 't yo u w ith d r a w th e e x h i b i t ,
c o u n s e l, u n le s s you have t o have —
5
6
MR. MCGRATH;
7
THE COURT;
8
u n til
9
back to h e r.
MR. MCGRATH;
11
THE COURT;
te s t if y in g
12
I have no f u r t h e r q u e s t io n s . Y o u r H o n o r.
U n le s s i t ' s
fo r
r e fr e s h in g
she e x h a u s ts h e r memory, c o u n s e l,
10
A ll
r ig h t,
r e c o lle c tio n
th e n y o u g iv e
it
Y o u r H o n o r.
O th e rw is e we ru n i n t o
a p ro b le m w i t h h e r
fro m th e e x h i b i t .
MR. MCGRATH;
13
14
Oh, y o u 'r e
Q
Y o u r a f f i d a v i t as r e q u ir e d
in
15
r e q u ir e m e n ts o f th e T i t l e
16
p r e s e n t a t io n o f th e b a c k g ro u n d in f o r m a t io n o f th e c h a r a c t e r
17
o f th e
18
A
19
i n v e s t i g a t i o n up t o
The a f f i d a v i t
III
o r d e r t o m eet th e
a p p lic a tio n
th a t p o in t,
o b t a in
th e o r d e r .
h a p h a z a rd ,
Q
Was i t
21
A
It
i n d i f f e r e n t o r was i t
22
Q
And how many p e o p le w ere t a r g e t e d
w a s n 't h a p h a z a rd o r i n d i f f e r e n t ,
you r e c a ll?
24
A
The names —
25
Q
R ig h t?
a th o r o u g h
th a t c o rre c t?
r e p r e s e n ts th e p r o b a b le cau se r e q u ir e d t o
20
23
is
is
in te r c e p te e s , i s
th a t
it
th o ro u g h ?
was th o r o u g h .
in y o u r a p p lic a tio n
if

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A
I
2
Q
If
b e lie v e
in itia lly
a p p r o x im a te ly t w e lv e .
I m ig h t r e f r e s h y o u r memory, w o u ld th e num ber s ix t e e n —
3
does t h a t r e f r e s h y o u r memory t h a t th e r e w e re s ix t e e n names
4
in
th e t a r g e t s ?
5
A
T h a t 's p o s s ib le .
6
Q
And t h e r e w e re an a d d i t i o n a l seve n names p r o v id e d t h a t w e re
7
n o t lis te d
8
S -2 ,
9
A
in
th e t a r g e t s b y y o u r — a s o u rc e i d e n t i f i e d
i s n ' t th a t c o rre c t?
A d d itio n a l in d iv id u a ls
id e n tifie d
b y a s o u rc e t h a t w e re n o t
named in t e r c e p t e e s ?
10
11
Q
T h a t 's
12
A
T h a t 's p o s s ib le .
13
Q
O kay.
c o rre c t?
14
If
15
THE COURT:
16
MR. MCGRATH;
17
as
Q
I may I a p p ro a c h a g a in , Y o u r H onor?
You may.
Once a g a in I ' l l
show y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r
18
id e n tific a tio n
19
a tte n tio n
20
o f names as a d d i t i o n a l ?
21
A
I
b e lie v e
22
Q
R ig h t.
as D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
t o page 1 8 ,
g o in g t o
25
a llo w
ta lk
to
th e
th e re
is
C o u n s e l, p le a s e do n o t w h is p e r .
th e w it n e s s ,
it
lis tin g
in itia lly .
T h e re a re e i g h t names t h e r e —
24
D ir e c t y o u r
th e to p o f th e page w i t h
she was an in t e r c e p t e e
THE COURT:
23
E x h ib it 1.
seven.
If
has t o be o u t lo u d .
c o u n s e l t o w h is p e r b e tw e e n th e m s e lv e s o f f th e
y o u 'r e
I
re c o rd .

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b u t b e tw e e n th e
2
lo u d .
3
4
w itn e s s i n
has t o
be o u t
MR. MCGRATH:
Q
H a v in g r e fr e s h e d y o u r r e c o l l e c t i o n
5
a ff id a v it,
6
a d d i t i o n a l nam es,
p a r tic u la r ly
A
In a d d itio n
8
Q
And th e a p p l i c a t i o n
9
up t o
10
to
is
7
A
th e p o i n t ,
12
Q
13
A h is to r y
14
A
15
Q
16
S -3 , i s
T h a t 's
And i t
r o u g h ly o f up t o
a f f id a v it ,
c o n c e r n in g th e
c o rre c t.
18
Q
O ka y. I f
I —
a fte r
19
n e c e s s a ry f o r you to
20
T itle
Q
23
A
24
Q
in c lu d e s a h i s t o r y o f th e
in v e s tig a tio n
th e p o i n t o f th e
i s n ' t th a t c o rre c t?
s o u rc e s d e s ig n a te d S -1 ,
in c lu d e s a summary o f th e
T h a t 's
T h a t 's
c o rre c t.
c o rre c t.
A
22
th a t c o rre c t?
th a t c o rre c t?
17
A
th e r e a re seve n
o f th e p e r t i n e n t i n f o r m a t i o n .
p r o v id e d
21
t o page 1 8 ,
And in c lu d e s t h r e e u n i d e n t i f i e d
S -2 ,
b y r e v ie w o f th e
th e named i n t e r c e p t e e s , t h a t ' s
a p p l i c a t i o n and
11
25
open c o u r t i t
509
III
o rd e r,
in f o r m a t io n
t h a t th e y
in v e s tig a tio n ?
30d a ys
of
in te r c e p ts ,
it
was
renew o r seek an e x t e n s io n o f th e
is th a t c o rre c t?
c o rre c t.
And a se co n d a f f i d a v i t was p r e p a r e d , was i t
n o t?
Y e s.
Now, th e se co n d a f f i d a v i t ,
lo n g ?
if
yo u r e c a l l was t h a t 17 pages

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If
2
THE COURT:
3
MR. McGr a t h :
4
Q
5
I 'll
I may a g a in , Y o u r H onor?
hand yo u w h a t 's m arked f o r
D u r r 's
6
A
Y e s.
7
Q
And i n
t h a t seco nd a p p l i c a t i o n ,
s ix
9
a p p lic a tio n ,
A
11
is
th e o r i g i n a l
th a t c o rre c t?
I d o n 't r e c a l l th e s p e c i f i c
n u m b e r, b u t t h e r e w e re
a d d i t i o n a l s u b je c t s , y e s .
MR. MCGRATH:
13
THE COURT:
14
MR. MCGRATH:
Q
If
y o u r a tte n tio n
17
r e c o lle c tio n
18
named?
You may.
t o page
5, 6 and 7 .
t h a t th e r e was
19
A
Y e s.
20
Q
And a g a in t h e r e was
21
I a g a in may a p p ro a c h ?
I hand y o u a g a in th e D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
16
22
as D e fe n d a n t
th e r e w ere an a d d i t i o n a l
s u b j e c t s ' names t h a t w ere n o t named i n
12
15
id e n tific a tio n
E x h i b i t 2?
8
10
You may.
a
E x h i b i t 2 and d i r e c t
Does t h a t r e f r e s h
your
an a d d i t i o n a l s i x s u b je c t s
summary o f th e i n v e s t i g a t i o n
as i t
had p r o g r e s s e d fro m th e o r i g i n a l a p p l i c a t i o n ?
A
N o t th e e n t i r e i n v e s t i g a t i o n ,
23
th e
in itia l
24
d u r in g
th e c o u rs e o f th e
25
T h a t 's
th e
b u tr e ly in g
a f f i d a v i t and p r i m a r i l y
in f o r m a t io n
fir s t
and i n c o r p o r a t i n g
in f o r m a t i o n o b ta in e d
30 d a ys o f i n t e r c e p t i o n .
t h a t c o m p ris e d t h a t e x t e n s io n

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2
a f f id a v it .
Q
3
And a g a in as i n th e o r i g i n a l a f f i d a v i t ,
in
A
Y e s.
5
Q
I 'm
g o in g t o —
6
If
7
— hand y o u w h a t 's
8
E x h i b i t 4 , b e in g a l i s t
9
a sk yo u t o
I may a p p ro a c h ?
THE COURT:
11
MR. MCGRATH:
Y o u r H o n o r,
o f th e G o v e rn m e n t's w it n e s s e s .
Yes.
W e ll,
th e y w ere p r e s e n te d
THE COURT:
14
MR. MCGRATH:
17
as D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's
it
I
o v e r?
T h a t was in t r o d u c e d b e f o r e , w a s n 't i t ?
13
16
id e n tifie d
re a d t h a t o r j u s t lo o k
10
15
th o r o u g h
y o u r w o rk?
4
12
y o u w ere
th e y w e r e n 't in t r o d u c e d ,
t o A g e n t B a lb o b e f o r e .
B u t n o t a c c e p te d i n t o
N ot in to
e v id e n c e ,
—
j u s t f o r h im t o
r e v ie w th e l i s t .
Q
S o u rc e s S -1 ,
S -2 and S -3 , a re th e y l i s t e d
G o v e rn m e n t's l i s t
BELLA:
o f w itn e s s e s ?
18
MR.
19
THE COURT: You may.
20
May we
a p p ro a c h . Y o u r H onor?
(B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e
21
MR. BELLA:
May I ask w h a t 's
22
w h e re a re we g o in g w i t h
23
MR. McGRATH:
24
up —
25
I 'm
th e
g o in g
on th e
I 'm
r e c o r d a ls o
re c o rd .)
th e p u rp o s e o f t h i s ,
it?
g o in g t o — w e l l ,
I 'v e
a lr e a d y s e t
shows t h a t W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
— when th e o t h e r p e o p le t e s t i f y ,
i s S -1 .
I 'm g o in g
to

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show t h a t th e y w ere S -2 and S -3 .
2
MR. BELLA:
3
MR. McGRATH:
4
to
5
6
id e n tify
Why?
t h e y 'r e
on th e l i s t
why I 'm
I w ill
Why i s
MR. McGRATH;
t h a t 's
T h a t'S my d e fe n s e .
anybody,
THE COURT;
7
8
it
n o t a s k in g h e r
ask h e r —
r e le v a n t f o r h e r t o
say t h a t
o r n o t?
B ecause i f
th e y d e n ie d i t ,
Y o u r H o n o r,
u s in g i t .
MR. McGRATH;
10
If
A g e n t B a lb o as t o o n e , a g e n t —
11
a l l th r e e .
12
a b o u t as W a lte r P e t t ig r e w ,
13
e s t a b lis h e d and w i l l
14
w ill —
15
them as S -2 and S -3 .
16
THE COURT;
17
do yo u go fro m th e r e ?
th e y d e n ie d —
by p u ttin g
in
19
THE COURT:
I 'm
as t o
n o t as s u re
th e s e .
e s t a b l i s h W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
W hat happens i f
MR. McGRATH;
a ll
th e n e x t tw o ,
th r o u g h th e s e s u b s e q u e n t p e o p le ,
18
21
I 'm
MR. BELLA:
9
20
512
W e 've
is
S -1 .
I
I w i l l e s ta b lis h
she a n s w e rs n o ,
th e n w h e re
I beg y o u r p a rd o n ?
W hat happens i f
she s a ys n o ,
t h e y 'r e
not
th e r e ?
MR. McGRATH;
I 'll
make s u re h e 's
22
a p o s s ib ility
23
and maybe t h a t one p e rs o n i s
24
v e r y c o n f id e n t t h a t W a lte r P e t t ig r e w
25
t h a t I have th e
g o in g t o —
t h a t I have m i s i d e n t i f i e d
id e n tity
n o t on.
o f S -2 .
is
one o f th e s e p e o p le
I 'm
is
th e re
v e ry —
i
know
S -1 , v e r y c o n f i d e n t

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MR. BELLA;
The p ro b le m I have i s
2
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t t h a t ' s
3
p r o t e c t h im ,
4
MR. McGRATH;
fo r th e ir
6
n o t a w it n e s s .
7
a l l a re .
9
10
11
If
I 'm
th e re
is
a
im p o r t a n t t o
n o t on,
I 'm
n o t g o in g t o
ask
I w i l l n o t ask a n y b o d y t h a t ' s
g o in g t o a sk f o r —
I b e lie v e
t h a t th e y
-
THE COURT;
I d o n 't know .
C o u n s e l, do y o u know w h a t
I b e lie v e
yes,
th e a n sw er is ?
MR. McGRATH;
th e an sw er i s
t h a t th e y
a re a l l —
THE COURT;
13
MR. McGRATH;
I 'm
Do y o u know f o r a f a c t ?
No,
p re tty
I was v e r y c o n f id e n t o f W a lte r
14
P e t t ig r e w ,
15
u n c e r t a in a b o u t th e t h i r d .
THE COURT;
c o n f id e n t a b o u t one o t h e r .
C o u n s e l,
17
o b je c tio n
18
c h ie f i f
19
have f i n i s h e d
20
me a good re a s o n f o r
I am p ro n e t o
s u s t a in
and a llo w y o u t o q u e s t io n h e r i n
y o u w a n t.
MR. McGRATH;
22
MR. BELLA;
it,
th e
y o u r case i n
A ll
w itn e s s e s and th e n i f
I may r e v i s i t
y o u can show
it.
r ig h t.
My c o n c e rn i s
23
and I d o n 't know w h o 's i n
24
a lth o u g h i f
t h a t I 'm
n o t an i n v e s t i g a t o r
d a n g e r and w h o 's n o t and —
somebody t e s t i f i e s ,
MR. McGRATH:
I 'm
And b y t h a t tim e th e G o ve rn m e n t w i l l
a ll o f its
21
25
e m ploye d i t ' s
t h e y 'r e
id e n tific a tio n .
12
16
th a t i f
th e n —
5
8
513
CROSS DURR
th e n —
How come th r o u g h t h i s
w itn e s s ?

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THE COURT;
1
I
can s u g g e s t s o m e th in g e ls e ,
2
w a n t t o do t h i s .
3
if
4
w a n t make a s t i p u l a t i o n ,
yo u w a n t t o ,
I 'm
g o in g t o
MR. MCGRATH;
6
MR. BELLA;
you guys
s u s t a in th e o b j e c t i o n ,
maybe y o u can f i n d
5
if
o u t and t a l k
but
and i f
you
y o u can s t i p u l a t e .
O kay.
F o r th e
re c o rd ,
I do o b j e c t t o
th a t.
(End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .)
7
8
THE COURT;
9
MR. McGRATH;
S u s ta in e d .
10
T h ro u g h th e c o u rs e o f y o u r i n v e s t i g a t i o n ,
11
l e t me re p h ra s e t h a t .
In y o u r o r ig in a l a p p lic a tio n
12
in te r c e p t,
fo r T itle
III
in te r c e p t,
is
13
to
14
L y n e t t a D u rr among th e names o f t a r g e t s
15
a d d i t i o n a l names t h a t w ere l i s t e d
it
is
t o w ir e t a p o r l i n e
does th e name
p e r m is s io n
th e name
o r th o s e seve n
in y o u r a p p lic a tio n ?
16
A
N o,
n o t.
17
Q
I n y o u r e x te n s io n t h a t was one m onth l a t e r w h ic h in c lu d e d
18
s i x new nam es, was th e name L y n e t t a D u rr among th o s e s i x
19
names?
20
N o.
21
MR, McGRATH;
22
THE COURT;
I have n o t h in g
C ro s s E d w a rd s .
fu rth e r.
Y o u r H o n o r.
B u t b e fo r e y o u s t a r t ,
23
c o u n s e l, how lo n g do yo u t h i n k y o u r c r o s s e x a m in a tio n
24
g o in g t o be?
25
MR. JACKSON;
Maybe 30 m in u te s . Y o u r H o n o r.
is

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THE COURT:
1
CROSS- EXAMINATION
BY
MR. JACKSON:
2
3
4
Go a h e a d , you may commence.
Q
S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o ,
d ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n
5
c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e s w h ic h yo u t e s t i f i e d
6
d i r e c t e x a m in a tio n ,
7
w o r k in g M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , P e ttig r e w ?
back to
th e
p r e v i o u s ly on
th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t who y o u w e re
8
A
Y e s, t h a t ' s
9
Q
And he was a c t i n g as a c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t a t t h a t tim e ?
10
A
C o o p e r a tin g w it n e s s .
11
Q
C o o p e r a tin g w it n e s s .
or fiv e ,
12
13
A
F iv e —
14
Q
F iv e ,
15
A
—
s ix
c o n tr o lle d
p u rc h a s e s ,
o f w h ic h I was p r e s e n t .
is
I b e lie v e
Q
So f i v e
18
A
F iv e c o n t r o l l e d
19
Q
D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n
p u rc h a s e s ,
21
M a rch o f 1990?
The June 1 1 , 1990 b u y I was n o t
b a ck t o
th e
I b e lie v e y o u t e s t i f i e d
A
M arch 2 3 .
23
Q
D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n
b a ck t o
fir s t
it
lo c a te d ?
o f th o s e
was M arch 2 3 ,
1990,
t h a t d a t e , w h e re w e re y o u
lo c a t e d when y o u f i r s t m et M r. P e ttig r e w ?
W here was I
in ?
p u rc h a s e s .
22
A
fo u r
th a t c o rre c t?
p u rc h a s e s o r s e tu p s yo u p a r t i c i p a t e d
20
24
to
in .
17
25
And yo u t e s t i f i e d
t h e r e w ere s i x —
in v o lv e d
16
c o rre c t.

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1
Q
Y e s , w ere y o u a t th e L a Q u in ta In n ?
2
A
Y e s.
3
Q
W hat room w ere you in ?
4
A
I
5
Q
And who a l l was p r e s e n t i n
6
7
A
d o n 't r e c a l l th e
D e t e c t iv e
S p e c ia l A g e n t W i ll i a m W ago ner,
Tom T r a th e n ,
9
s p e c ific a lly .
Those a re th e th r e e
11
Q
Now, w e 'r e
12
A
In
th e
13
Q
—
a t th is
14
A
I
18
A
19
Q
in
th e h o t e l
room .
p o in t ?
c a n 't r e c a l l s p e c i f i c a l l y who e ls e may have been t h e r e .
o f c o u r s e , was t h e r e .
Was P e t t ig r e w
he b r in g h i s
17
can r e c a l l
p u rc h a s e on th e s t r e e t .
ju s t ta lk in g
P e t t ig r e w ,
Q
th a t I
I know t h a t th e r e w ere o t h e r a g e n ts p r e s e n t
d u r in g th e c o n t r o l l e d
15
room when th e c o n f i d e n t i a l
came in ?
m y s e lf .
10
th e
in f o r m a n t came th o u g h ,
8
16
room nu m be r.
s u p p lie d w i t h a v e h i c le
d a te o r d i d
own v e h ic le ?
He was a lw a y s s u p p lie d w i t h
You t e s t i f i e d
on t h i s
a v e h ic le .
t h a t he was s e a rc h e d p r i o r
to
le a v in g
th e
h o t e l room?
20
21
A
22
Q
23
A
24
Q
25
A
T h a t 's
c o rre c t.
HOW much money was p r o v id e d t o M r. P e t t ig r e w
On th e 2 3 r d ,
$600.
$600.
Who c o n d u c te d th e
I b e lie v e
on th e 2 3 rd ?
on t h a t d a te —
s e a rc h o f M r. P e ttig r e w ?

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1
Q
B e fo re he l e f t ?
2
A
B e fo re he l e f t .
M r. W agoner, S p e c ia l A g e n t W agoner,
3
D e t e c t iv e
4
may have been th e r e
T r a th e n , and as I
s a id I
c a n 't r e c a l l who e ls e
on t h a t d a te .
5
Q
O kay.
6
A
Y e s.
7
Q
Now, t h i s
8
A
N o.
9
Q
W hat y o u w o u ld r e f e r t o as a p a t down?
10
A
Y e s.
11
Q
Can y o u e x p la in t o
12
A
S u re .
Were yo u p r e s e n t when th e s e a rc h was c o n d u c te d ?
w a s n 't a s t r i p
He —
th e
s e a r c h , was i t ?
j u r y w h a t a p a t down s e a rc h is ?
a p a t down s e a rc h c o n s is t s o f b a s i c a l l y
13
p a ttin g
14
a n y ite m s th e y may h a v e ,
15
ite m s th e y may have i n
16
a re a .
17
c lo th in g ,
someone dow n, a l l
a re a s o f t h e i r b o d y , and re m o v in g
c h e c k in g t h e i r p o c k e ts f o r a n y
t h e i r p o c k e ts .
Shoe a r e a ,
sock
A th o ro u g h s e a rc h o f th e b o d y , b u t n o t re m o v in g
u n d e rg a rm e n ts .
18
Q
T h e re i s
19
A
Y e s,
20
Q
Can y o u d e s c r ib e
su ch a t h i n g
th e re
as a s t r i p
s e a rc h ,
i s n ' t th e r e ?
is .
f o r th e j u r y w h a t a s t r i p
s e a rc h c o n s is t s
A
A s tr ip
s e a rc h i s
ju s t th a t.
A l l th e c l o t h i n g w o u ld be
23
rem oved and e xa m in e d a n d , you know , a n a ked b o d y w o u ld
24
e x a m in e d ,
25
•
o f?
21
22
517
Q
s e a rc h e d .
On M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , y o u w ere p r e s e n t d u r in g
s e a rc h e s ,
it

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1
was a p a t down, c o r r e c t ?
2
A
C o rre c t.
3
Q
And I b e lie v e yo u a ls o t e s t i f i e d
4
It
was n o t a s t r i p
s e a rc h .
t h a t a t r a n s m i t t e r was
p la c e d on M r. P e t t i g r e w 's p e rs o n ?
5
A
T h a t 's
c o rre c t.
6
Q
On t h a t d a y .
7
A
I t 's
8
Q
M odel o r b r a n d , yes?
9
A
I d o n 't know .
10
Q
How o ld was t h i s
11
A
I have no id e a .
12
Q
W hat t r a i n i n g
W hat ty p e o f a t r a n s m i t t e r was i t ?
ju s t th a t.
Do y o u mean a b ra n d ?
d e v ic e ?
have yo u had i n
th e a re a o f t r a n s m i t t e r s
such
as th e one in v o lv e d on M arch 23 o f 1990?
13
14
A
J u s t p r a c tic a l t r a in in g .
15
Q
Have yo u r e c e iv e d a n y t e c h n i c a l t r a i n i n g ?
16
A
N o, s i r .
17
Q
As t o m a in te n a n c e ?
18
A
N o, s i r .
19
Q
As t o
20
A
N o,
21
Q
As t o
22
A
O n ly t o
c a lib r a tio n ?
s ir .
th e
i n t e r n a l f u n c t i o n in g s
o f th e m a c h in e ry ?
th e e x t e n t t h a t th e t e c h n i c a l a g e n t p r i o r
23
th a t tr a n s m itte r ,
e x p la in e d how t o o p e r a te
24
th a t i t
was o p e r a t i o n a l .
25
p l a c in g
it
The t e s t i n g
of it
on — o r w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w .
it
t o use o f
and e n s u re
p r io r
to

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS
1
Q
O kay.
Who was th e t e c h n i c a l a g e n t t h a t —
me b a ck u p .
2
a g e n t,
4
o r th is
le t
th is
tr a in in g
fro m a t e c h n i c a l
in s tr u c tio n ?
5
A
In s tr u c tio n .
6
Q
How p r i o r ?
7
A
How p r i o r ?
8
Q
T h a t 's n o t a q u e s t io n ,
P r io r to
th e use o f th e t r a n s m i t t e r .
I 'm
s o rry .
W hat le n g t h o f
I 'm
s o rry .
9
W hat le n g t h o f tim e p r i o r t o M arch 23 w ere y o u — d i d
10
y o u r e c e iv e
11
12
s o rry ,
.
When d id yo u r e c e iv e
3
I 'm
A
th is
in s tr u c tio n ?
I d o n 't r e c a l l s p e c i f i c a l l y
if
13
im m e d ia te ly p r e c e d in g , b u t i t
14
t h a t t im e , w i t h i n
—
it
was t h a t d a y o r th e d a y
w o u ld have been r i g h t a ro u n d
a day o r so.
15
Q
So f a i r l y
f a ir ly
16
A
R ig h t .
17
Q
Were yo u i n s t r u c t e d
r e c e n t th e n p r i o r
on th e
t o M a rch 23 o f 1990?
same ty p e o f t r a n s m i t t e r t h a t
was p la c e d on th e p e rs o n o f W a lte r -P e ttig re w ?
18
19
A
Y es,
20
Q
D id y o u r e c e iv e a n y i n f o r m a t io n as t o w h e th e r t h a t d e v ic e
A
25
The t e c h n i c a l a g e n t who was t r a i n e d
th e e q u ip m e n t i n
23
24
was p r o b a b ly th e same t r a n s m i t t e r .
had been c a l i b r a t e d p r o p e r ly ?
21
22
it
Q
I 'm
s o rry ,
in
t h a t a re a m a in t a in s
th e o f f i c e .
d id yo u t e l l me h i s name and i f
y o u p le a s e t e l l me a g a in ?
you d id ,
c o u ld

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1
A
I b © li6 v e
I d id ,
2
Q
R o b e rt H a d r ic k .
b u t h i s name i s
R ob airt H a d r ic k .
Do you know how t o
s p e l l t h a t l a s t name
h e re ?
3
4
A
H - A - D - R - I- C - K .
5
Q
O kay.
And u l t i m a t e l y
p e rs o n .
6
th is
Where was i t
i n h is
t r a n s m i t t e r was p la c e d on h i s
p la c e d on M r. P e ttig r e w ?
7
A
I b e lie v e
8
Q
How b ig o f a d e v ic e a re we t a l k i n g
9
A
I t 's
a b o u t,
I 'd
s h i r t p o c k e t.
a b o u t h e r e , ma'am?
s a y th r e e b y f o u r in c h e s m aybe, tw o and a
h a l f b y t h r e e and a h a l f in c h e s , v e r y —
10
11
Q
A p p r o x im a te ly —
I 'm
s o rry ?
12
A
T h in .
13
Q
A p p r o x im a te ly th e s iz e
14
A
A s m a ll o n e .
15
Q
S m a lle r th a n a W alkm an.
o f a Walkman?
T h a t b e in g a l i t t l e
m u s ic t h i n g
w i t h he adphones o n .
16
On M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , d id y o u p r o v id e p e r s o n a l l y
17
18
s u r v e illa n c e
19
h is
o f th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t as he w e n t a b o u t
b u s in e s s ?
20
A
I was p a r t o f th e
21
Q
D id yo u r i d e
in
s u r v e illa n c e
th e
tea m .
same v e h i c le w i t h
th e
c o n fid e n tia l
in fo r m a n t?
22
23
A
N o,
s ir .
24
Q
D id y o u r i d e
25
A
Y es.
— d id y o u r i d e
in
a d i f f e r e n t v e h ic le ?

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1
Q
f o r me th e s u r v e i l l a n c e
A
G e n e r a lly b e cause i t
4
we w a n te d t o
5
Edw ards was g o in g t o
6
it
7
w i t h h im .
was th e i n i t i a l
e n s u re we d i d n ' t ,
had been q u i t e
fir s t
know how M r.
th in k
.
10
as M r. E d w a rd s '
11
tw o , b u t we w ere i n
12
r e s id e n c e .
Q
of a ll,
p u rc h a s e ,
some tim e s in c e he had had a n y d e a lin g s
e n s u re t h a t he was i n
9
c o n tr o lle d
r e a c t t o M r. P e t t ig r e w b e c a u s e I
We d id have th e t r a n s m i t t e r i n
8
13
te c h n iq u e t h a t y o u
im p le m e n te d on t h a t d a te ? •
2
3
Can yo u d e s c r ib e
th e
Were yo u e q u ip p e d w i t h
We w a n te d t o
r e s id e n c e t h a t we had i d e n t i f i e d
r e s id e n c e .
th e
p la c e .
We w e r e n 't w i t h i n
im m e d ia te v i c i n i t y
a r e c e iv in g u n i t t o
a ho use o r
o f th e
th is
tr a n s m itte r
t h a t was p la c e d on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t?
14
15
A
I t 's
n o t a s e p a ra te u n i t ;
16
Q
Now, how does t h i s
if
we r e c e iv e o v e r th e
t r a n s m i t t e r w o rk th e n ,
17
c o n fu s e d ,
y o u can e x p la in
18
tr a n s m itte r
19
w h a t happe ns fro m t h a t p o i n t ,
20
b y r a d io
is
it
to
th e
I 'm
ju r y .
r a d io .
a little
The
p la c e d on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t and
w h a te v e r comes i n
is
e m it t e d
fre q u e n c y ?
21
A
I assume i t ' s
22
Q
Some ty p e —
23
A
A ll
I know i s
a r a d io
fr e q u e n c y .
t h a t th e t r a n s m i t t e r does j u s t t h a t ,
24
t r a n s m it s
s o u n d s , v o ic e s ,
25
m o n ito r t h a t v i a
th e
o th e r sounds.
r a d io .
it
And y o u can

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I Q
Is
th is
2
A
It's
3
Q
Is
4
5
r a d io s t h a t o u r c a r s a re e q u ip p e d w i t h .
t h e r e an y chance th e t r a n s m is s io n c o u ld be d is t u r b e d
some f a s h io n due t o
A
6
7
th e
a s p e c ia l ty p e o f r a d io ?
I d o n 't b e lie v e
p r iv a te
Q
8
c o m p e tin g tr a n s m is s io n s ?
so because i t ' s
a —
th e fr e q u e n c y i s
B u t y o u d o n 't p o s s e s s th e
r e q u is ite
t e c h n i c a l k n o w le d g e t o
do you?
9
A
I d o n 't have t h a t t e c h n i c a l k n o w le d g e , n o .
10
Q
Can y o u t e l l me w h a t band o f fr e q u e n c y t h i s
tr a n s m itte r
e m its ?
12
A
N o.
13
Q
W ith r e s p e c t t o y o u r v i s u a l s u r v e i l l a n c e
o f th e
14
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t on M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , was t h i s
15
tim e im peded o r b re a c h e d ?
16
A
17
When he e n te r e d th e
e a r lie r ,
r e s id e n c e .
we w ere n o t i n
And as I
c o n s ta n t v i s u a l
18
Q
T h a t 's my q u e s tio n ?
19
A
We d id n o t see h im f o r e v e r y m in u te
20
21
th in k
I
a t any
s a id
c o n ta c t.
.
th a t
he was a c t i n g
in
t h a t c a p a c it y .
Q
22
Was th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t d r i v i n g
b y h im s e lf on t h i s
d a te o r was he b e in g e s c o r te d b y someone e ls e ?
23
A
He was d r i v i n g
24
Q
A t an y p o i n t i n
25
a
fr e q u e n c y .
a c c u r a t e ly an sw er t h a t q u e s t io n ,
11
in
v e h i c le
by h im s e lf.
t im e , yo u l o s t v i s u a l c o n t a c t
en r o u te
to
th e t a r g e t a re a ?
w ith
th is

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS
1
A
N o t f o r a n y e x te n d e d p e r io d o f t im e .
2
Q
The q u e s t io n i s ,
l o s t v is u a l c o n ta c t w ith
3
4
A
th e r e a p o i n t i n
th is
tim e when yo u
v e h ic le ?
I m y s e lf d id n o t have t h a t v e h i c le w i t h i n my s i g h t a t a l l
t im e s .
5
6
m a'am , i s
Q
You i n d i r e c t l y
a n sw e re d my q u e s t io n .
A t a p o in t in
7
th e n , d id y o u lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w
8
he e x i t e d h i s v e h ic le ?
tim e
a fte r
9
A
Y e s.
10
Q
When was t h i s ?
11
A
When he e n te r e d th e
12
Q
And how lo n g a p e r io d o f tim e d id y o u lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t
w i t h M r. P e ttig r e w ?
13
14
re s id e n c e a t 1522 T a f t S t r e e t .
A
I d o n 't r e c a l l how lo n g he was i n
15
t h a t p a r t i c u l a r o c c a s io n .
16
th a n m in u te s .
17
Q
H ou rs?
18
A
I d o n 't r e c a l l t h a t f i r s t
19
le n g t h y t r a n s a c t i o n .
20
th a n tw o h o u r s .
21
Q
It
c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e b e in g a
th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t .
23
in f o r m a n t e x i t e d
24
d ro v e b a ck t o
A
T h a t 's
it
was a p e r io d o f m ore
assum e, y o u l o s t v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h
22
25
on
was a p e r io d o f t im e , more
I d o n 't t h i n k
So f o r tw o h o u rs l e t ' s
th e
t h a t r e s id e n c e a t —
Then th e c o n f i d e n t i a l
ta r g e t a re a ,
e n te r e d h i s v e h i c le
and
L a Q u in ta In n on M arch 23 o f 1990?
c o rre c t.
He u l t i m a t e l y was — we m et h im b a c k a t

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS
1
2
th e L a Q u in ta .
Q
D id
y o u m a in t a in c o n s ta n t v i s u a l s u r v e i l l a n c e
3
w i t h M r. P e t t i g r e w 's v e h ic le
4
re s id e n c e t o
th e tim e
o r c o n ta c t
fro m th e tim e t h a t he l e f t
you a r r iv e d
a t L a Q u in ta ?
5
A
N o,
6
Q
So t h a t was b re a c h e d , y o u r v i s u a l c o n t a c t was b re a c h e d ?
7
A
He was n o t i n my c o n s ta n t s i g h t .
8
Q
D id th e r e e v e r come a p o i n t i n
s ir .
9
When yo u w ere r e t u r n i n g
10
ta k e tw o s e p a ra te
11
\7ay t h e r e o r was i t
12
v is u a l c o n ta c t,
the
14
MR. JACKSON:
15
the
15
MR. JACKSON:
Q
tim e —
to
th e L a Q u in ta I n n , d i d y o u
j u s t a m a tte r o f m in u te s t h a t y o u l o s t
COURT:
COURT:
C o u n s e l, one q u e s t io n a t a t im e .
S o r r y , Y o u r H o n o r.
Why d o n 't we s t a r t o v e r a g a in .
May I ask th e q u e s t io n o v e r?
Thank y o u .
The t o t a l am ount o f tim e t h a t yo u l o s t o r y o u r v i s u a l
c o n t a c t was b re a c h e d r e t u r n i n g
19
tim e ?
A
th a t.
r o u te s o r yo u d i d n ' t see h im th e w h o le
18
20
s tr ik e
I need t o g e t some k in d o f an id e a ?
13
17
As I
to
th e h o t e l room , how much
r e c a l l , th e am ount o f tim e t h a t e la p s e d b e tw e e n
21
tim e t h a t he l e f t
22
and th e tim e t h a t he a r r i v e d a t th e L a Q u in ta was th e
23
am ount o f tim e t h a t i t
24
c o u rs e t h a t same d i s t a n c e , .
25
Q
th e
th e t a r g e t a re a as y o u r e f e r r e d
to o k th e
s u r v e illa n c e
to
u n its
D id yo u lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t o r s u r v e i l l a n c e w i t h
th e
it,
same
to
th is

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS
1
v e h i c le
2
L a Q u in ta o r was i t
3
t h a t v e h i c le
Q
W ould i t
to
6
7
tim e fro m th e t a r g e t house t o
ju s t b r ie f ly
th e
in t e r r u p t e d ?
I d o n 't r e c a l l t h a t I had — I m y s e lf had v i s u a l c o n t a c t o f
A
4
5
th e e n t i r e
A
th e e n t i r e
t im e .
have been p o s s ib le
s to p h i s v e h i c le
W ould i t
th e n f o r M r. P e t t ig r e w
to
s to p ,
en r o u te t o L a Q u in ta ?
have been p o s s ib le
j u s t f o r h im t o
s to p h is
v e h ic le ?
8
9
Q
T h a t 's
10
A
Y e s.
11
Q
c o rre c t?
And t h i s
c o u ld have o c c u r r e d d u r in g th e p e r io d o f tim e when
he d i d n ' t have v i s u a l s u r v e illa n c e ?
12
13
A
14
Q
C o u ld h a v e .
D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n
to A p r il,
1 9 9 0 ; t h a t was a n o th e r
c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e ?
15
16
A
17
Q
A p r il 23.
A p r il 23.
Same p ro c e d u re was f o llo w e d p r i o r t o
c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t le a v in g ?
18
19
A
T h a t 's
c o rre c t.
20
Q
D id he d r i v e
21
A
No, he d id n o t .
22
Q
23
A
Y e s.
24
Q
D id he d r i v e
25
A
No, he d id n o t .
was t h i s
h is
own v e h i c le
on A p r i l 23?
a d a te t h a t one was p r o v id e d f o r him ?
it
b y h im s e lf?
th e

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS
1
Q
T h e re was a n o th e r u n d e rc o v e r a g e n t w h ic h a c c o m p a n ie d him ?
2
A
T h a t 's
3
Q
D id y o u p r o v id e v i s u a l c o n t a c t — o r d id y o u have an
c o rre c t.
S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r.
4
o p p o r t u n it y t o have v i s u a l c o n t a c t g o in g t o
5
o f M r. P e t t i g r e w 's v e h ic le ?
th e
r e s id e n c e
6
A
A t some p o i n t s , y e s .
7
Q
Was t h a t e v e r i n t e r r u p t e d ,
8
A
Y e s , be ca u se he was b e in g a c c o m p a n ie d b y an a g e n t.
9
Q
The q u e s t io n —
if
y o u r v i s u a l s u r v e illa n c e ?
can yo u j u s t l i m i t y o u r an sw e r t o my
10
q u e s tio n s
11
tim e when M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n
12
v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h h im a t t h a t tim e ?
13
A
I 'm
I w o u ld a p p r e c ia t e
n o t tr y in g
if
15
s im p ly k n o c k e d on th e
16
a t t h a t t im e ,
Q
th e h o u s e , d i d y o u lo s e
f r o n t d o o r.
If
to
P e t t ig r e w
t a k in g o f f and g o in g t o
Y es.
20
Q
D id y o u p r o v id e v i s u a l s u r v e i l l a n c e
21
A
Y es.
22
Q
Was t h a t s u r v e i l l a n c e
or i f
A
he
he e n te r e d th e ho use
in te r r u p te d
th e house?
a t t h a t tim e ?
g o in g to w a rd s th e home o r
r e s id e n c e ?
23
r e c a ll
I w o u ld have l o s t v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h h im .
A
25
tr y in g
f a c t e n te r e d th e house on t h a t o c c a s io n ,
19
24
I 'm
On A u g u s t 31 o f 1 9 9 0 , was th e same p r o c e d u re f o llo w e d p r i o r
to
18
Now, d u r in g th e p e r io d o f
evade y o u r q u e s t io n ,
14
17
he i n
to
it.
He w o u ld n o t have been i n my s i g h t d u r in g t h a t e n t i r e
p e r io d o f t im e .

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1
Q
Was he a cco m p a n ie d b y someone a t t h a t tim e ?
2
A
D u r in g th e A u g u s t 31 p u rc h a s e , n o .
3
Q
He was a s o lo ?
4
A
Y e s, th e r e was no u n d e r c o v e r .
5
Q
O kay.
6
D u r in g th e a lle g e d t r a n s a c t io n on A u g u s t 31 o f 1 9 9 0 ,
d id y o u m a in t a in v i s u a l c o n t a c t d u r in g th e t r a n s a c t io n ?
7
A
No.
8
Q
Or th e a lle g e d t r a n s a c t io n ?
9
A
N o, s i r .
10
Q
How lo n g a p e r io d o f tim e was t h i s
11
12
a lle g e d t r a n s a c t io n
t a k i n g p la c e o u t s id e o f y o u r v i s u a l c o n ta c t?
A
T h is was one o f th e e x te n d e d t r a n s a c t io n s
and i t
—
th is
was a p e r io d o f h o u r s .
13
14
Q
S e v e r a l h o u rs ?
15
A
Y e s.
16
Q
Was he e q u ip p e d w i t h a t r a n s m i t t i n g d e v ic e
17
A
I
18
Q
Were y o u r e c e i v i n g tr a n s m is s io n
19
A
Y e s.
20
Q
D u r in g th e
s e v e r a l h o u rs t h a t th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t
21
was i n
r e s id e n c e , was th e t r a n s m is s io n e v e r i n t e r r u p t e d
22
fro m th e d e v ic e w o rn b y th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t?
b e lie v e
so.
th e
23
A
I d o n 't b e lie v e
24
Q
And d i d y o u m a in t a in a p o s i t i o n
25
t h a t tim e ?
d u r in g t h i s
fro m t h a t d e v ic e ?
so.
e n tir e
t o h e a r th e
t r a n s m is s io n
s e v e r a l- h o u r p e r io d o f tim e ?

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF INDIANA . HAMMOND D IV IS IO N UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, P la in tiff, NO. HCR 9 2 -1 1 3 vs. LEE ANDREW EDWARDS, JAMES DAVIS, a / k / a James J e ffe r ie s , a /k /a L i t t l e Jam es, and LYNETTA P. DURR i D e fe n d a n ts . T r i a l i n th e above e n t i t l e d cause was resum ed b e fo r e th e HONORABLE RUDY LOZANO, Judge o f s a id C o u r t, and a j u r y , a t th e F e d e r a l B u i l d i n g , 507 S ta te S t r e e t , Hammond, I n d ia n a , on th e 1 1 th d a y o f M a rc h , 1 9 9 3 , com m encing a t th e h o u r o f 8 :4 5 a .m . APPEARANCES: MR. DANIEL L . BELLA, A s s i s t a n t U n ite d S ta te s A t t o r n e y , 1001 M a in S t r e e t , S u ite A , D y e r, In d ia n a 46311 on b e h a lf o f th e G o v e rn m e n t; U .S .6 A - 7 t h Circuit FI LED AUG - 2 199S C B VOLUME 4 TH O M A S F. S TR U B B E CLERK DOC. # _________________ k DANIEL J . SULLIVAN O FFIC IA L COURT REPORTER - U. S. DISTRICT COURT 507 STATE STREET, HAMMOND, INDIANA 46320

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APPEARANCES ( C o n t 'd ) MR. BENJAMIN S. JACKSON, 442 N o r th C a lu m e t, S u ite 2 0 0 , C h e s te r to n , In d ia n a 46304 on b e h a lf o f d e fe n d a n t Lee A ndrew E d w a rd s ; MR. ROBERT TRUITT, 55 S o u th F r a n k lin S t r e e t , V a lp a r a is o , In d ia n a 4 6 383 , on b e h a lf o f d e fe n d a n t James D a v is ; MR. JOHN MCGRATH, 1108 W est 1 3 3 rd A v e n u e , C edar L a k e , In d ia n a 46303 , on b e h a lf o f d e fe n d a n t L y n e t t a P. D u r r ; D e fe n d a n ts P re s e n t i n P e rs o n DANIEL J . SULLIVAN O F FIC IA L COURT REPORTER - U. S. DISTRICT COURT 507 STATE STREET, HAMMOND, INDIANA 46320

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430 ( C o u r t opened a t 8 :4 5 a .m . w i t h o u t th e p r e s e n t i n open c o u r t . ) 1 ju r y 2 THE COURT: 3 4 M r. T r u i t t , d id y o u g e t a n y c a s e s o r a n y a u th o r ity ? MR. TRUITT: 5 I d id n o t , Y our H o n o r. 6 l i b r a r y was c lo s e d l a s t e v e n in g , 7 a u th o r ity , 8 m a te r ia l. I g e t some I w i l l w ith d r a w my m o tio n f o r a d d i t i o n a l 3500 THE COURT: 9 so u n t i l The la w s c h o o l A ny o b j e c t i o n to 10 MR. JACKSON: No o b j e c t i o n . 1 1 MR. McGRATH: No. 12 THE COURT: 13 M r. B e l l a , th e m o tio n ? Y o u r H o n o r. M o tio n t o w ith d r a w i s g r a n te d . I was a d v is e d b y th e — b y my c l e r k 14 y o u have tw o 30 — 15 c o n fu s e d , why d o n 't we have one o f them c h a n g e d . 16 know t h a t i t ' s 17 it 's r e a lly So t h a t th e n e c e s s a ry t o do t h a t i n Y e s, Y o u r H o n o r. was in t r o d u c e d w h ic h was th e c a s s e t t e 20 p la y e d t o 21 to 22 t h a t G o ve rnm ent E x h i b i t 46 a t t h i s 24 25 I d o n 't f r o n t o f th e ju r y , The l a s t e x h i b i t t h a t 19 th e ju r y , th e C o u r t. 23 r e c o r d do es n o t g e t j u s t a t a g g in g . MR. BELLA: 18 4 5 's ? th a t r e c o r d in g t h a t was I m is t a k e n ly m arked 45 and I I ask p e r m is s io n on th e re c o rd to a p o lo g iz e re m a rk t im e . THE COURT: Do y o u w a n t t o m ark th e t r a n s c r i p t th e n MR. BELLA: Y e s , Y o u r H o n o r. 4 6A?

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431 1 THE COURT: A ny o b je c t io n ? 2 MR. TRUITT: No o b j e c t i o n 3 fro m d e fe n d a n t D a v is , H o n o r. 4 MR. McGRATH: No o b j e c t i o n . 5 MR. JACKSON: No o b j e c t i o n . 6 THE COURT: 7 and n o t h a v in g t o 8 p ro c e d u re ? go i n No o b j e c t i o n ju r y to h e re th a t as a r o u t i n e h o u s e k e e p in g m a t t e r . No o b j e c t i o n . 12 MR. JACKSON: No o b j e c t i o n . 13 THE COURT: And M r. B e l l a . 14 MR. BELLA: No o b j e c t i o n . 15 THE COURT: O kay. 16 is 17 was 45A i s now 4 6 . r e c o r d in g w h ic h was 45 t h a t c a s s e tte r e c o r d in g w h ic h now 46A. M r. T r u i t t — a u th o r ity The c a s s e t t e The t r a n s c r i p t t o I th in k it was yo u — y o u had some t h a t y o u have f o r my la w c le r k ? 20 MR. TR U ITT: 21 THE COURT: 22 j u s t d o in g i t t o d o in g i t MR. McGRATH: 19 to f r o n t o f th e 11 18 Y o u r H o n o r. And any o b j e c t i o n MR. TR U ITT: 9 10 Your Y e s, Y o u r H o n o r. M r. J a c k s o n , y o u 'r e w it h d r a w in g y o u r t h r e e i n s t r u c t i o n s w it h o u t th e c i t a t i o n s ? 23 MR. JACKSON: 24 THE COURT: 25 MR. JACKSON: T h a t 's c o rre c t. Y o u r H o n o r. One, tw o and th r e e ? One, tw o and t h r e e .

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432 1 THE COURT: 2 A n y th in g e ls e we need c o v e r b e fo r e we c a l l th e 3 They a re w ith d r a w n . down? 4 MR. BELLA: No, Y o u r H o n o r. 5 THE COURT: C a ll th e j u r y . (The j u r y w ere e s c o r te d i n t o and th e t r i a l was resum ed i n r e p o r te d as f o l l o w s : ) 6 7 THE COURT: 8 You may be s e a te d . THE COURT: 10 11 to m o rro w . 12 th e 13 ta lk in g ju r y M r. B e l l a , th e c o u r tr o o m , open c o u r t , C o u n s e l. (B ench d is c u s s io n on th e 9 re c o rd .) y o u s a id y o u e x p e c te d t o U nder th o s e c ir c u m s ta n c e s , w o u ld t h i s ca se go t o a b o u t? MR. BELLA: I w o u ld a g re e w i t h 15 THE COURT: Does a n y b o d y have any o b j e c t i o n 16 my t e l l i n g 17 la te r 18 t o do a t 3 :3 0 . 19 w ant to 20 p la n s , th e ju r y th a n 3 :3 0 ? th a t. Y o u r H o n o r. to , one, t h a t to m o rro w th e y w i l l be e x c u s e d no Because I have a n o th e r m a t t e r t h a t I have The case w i l l p o s s i b l y go i n t o l e t them know so t h a t th e y can — th e y d o n 't have t o , 21 MR. JACKSON: 22 MR. TR U ITT: T h a t'S if Monday b u t I th e y have yo u know , change th e m . fin e . Y o u r H onor I w o u ld a g re e w i t h th a t. Y o u r H o n o r. (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 23 25 fin is h to m o rro w , a ss u m in g fro m th e tim e t h a t y o u 'r e 14 24 ju r y THE COURT: Good m o rn in g , w a n te d t o a d v is e y o u t h a t f o r l a d ie s and g e n tle m e n . to m o rro w i n I ca se a n y o f y o u

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433 ANDREWS - DIRECT 1 had a n y p la n s , we a re n o t g o in g t o 2 to m o rro w and i t 3 lik e 4 p e o p le have p la n s f o r th e w eekend. 5 c ir c u m s ta n c e , y o u ' l l be g o in g home to m o rro w e i t h e r a t 3 :3 0 6 o r b e fo r e 7 to , m ig h t be a l i t t l e t o kee p j u r i e s th a t, go an y l a t e r b it e a r lie r . on F r id a y s v e r y l a t e no l a t e r th a n 3 :3 0 I d o n 't b e ca u se o f t e n t im e s So t h a t u n d e r a n y th a n 3 :3 0 th o u g h . I j u s t w a n te d y o u know , keep you a d v is e d . 8 M r. B e l l a , c a l l y o u r n e x t w it n e s s . 9 MR. BELLA: Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. 10 THE COURT: P le a s e be s e a te d , p u l l y o u r c h a i r u p , 1 1 spe ak d i r e c t l y in to 12 e v e ry b o d y may h e a r . th e m ic ro p h o n e lo u d enough so t h a t You may p ro c e e d , 13 T im o th y A n d re w s . c o u n s e l. TIMOTHY ANDREWS 14 c a l l e d as a w itn e s s b y th e G o v e rn m e n t, b e in g f i r s t d u ly O s w o rn t o t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t th e t r u t h , was e xa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d as f o l l o w s : 15 16 DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BELLA: 17 18 19 Q W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ? 20 A T im o th y A n d re w s . 21 Q And w o u ld yo u s p e l l y o u r l a s t name? 22 A A -N -D -R -E -W -S . 23 Q W hat i s 24 A An I n d ia n a S ta te P o lic e 25 Q O f f i c e r A n d re w s , d i d y o u have o c c a s io n t o m eet an y o u r o c c u p a t io n , s ir ? o f f ic e r .

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434 ANDREWS - DIRECT 1 i n d i v i d u a l b y th e name o f W a lte r P e t t ig r e w b a c k i n M a rch o f 2 1990? 3 A Y e s. 4 Q And d r a w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n t o M arch 2 3 , 1 9 9 0 , 5 me w h a t y o u r a c t i v i t i e s 6 m e e tin g w i t h h im and o t h e r la w e n fo rc e m e n t a g e n ts ? 7 A I a s s is t e d th e FB I i n w ere t h a t d a y w i t h can y o u t e l l an i n v e s t i g a t i o n 8 th e y w e re g o in g t o u t i l i z e 9 a b u y , n a r c o tic s 10 11 p a r tic u la r Q 12 13 And i n w h ic h I b e lie v e g e n tle m a n f o r some ty p e o f And I was a ske d t o a s s i s t i n to th e m , w h a t w e re and w h a t d id y o u do? I was a ske d t o s e a rc h a v e h i c le w h ic h was g o in g t o be 14 p r o v id e d t o h im f o r t r a n s p o r t a t i o n 15 t h e r e a re no i l l e g a l d ru g s o r d ru g s o f a n y k in d 16 v e h ic le . 17 I b e lie v e 18 v e h i c le 19 w he re i t 20 p a r tic u la r 21 s u re t h a t t h e r e 22 v e h ic le . 23 Q to th a t in c id e n t. th e c o u rs e o f y o u r a s s is ta n c e y o u r d u tie s A buy. th is in re g a rd to t o e n s u re th e I a ls o changed th e lic e n s e r e fle c t th a t i t was a c q u ir e d fro m . in c id e n t, w ere w o u ld be fro m And th e n p la te an a re a a t th e I a g a in s e a rc h e d t h i s v e h i c le 24 tu r n e d o v e r t o W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 25 r e s u lts o f y o u r s e a rc h ? b e fo r e in th a t on t h a t o u t s id e of end o f t h i s v e h i c le no d ru g s o r c o n tra b a n d i n And when y o u s e a rc h e d t h i s fa c t th a t t o make th a t th e v e h i c le was f o r h is u s e , w h a t w e re th e

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435 ANDREWS - DIRECT 1 A 2 V e ry em pty v e h i c le o t h e r th a n th e p a p e rw o rk fro m th e agency. 3 Q No d ru g s o r c o n tra b a n d o r money i n 4 A N o, s i r . 5 Q And a f t e r M r. P e t t ig r e w 6 v e h i c le re tu rn e d , A Y e s. 8 Q And w h a t w ere th e 9 A N e g a tiv e a g a in . 10 Q N e g a tiv e means — 11 A T h e re was no c o n tra b a n d o r d r u g s . 12 Q No money i n 13 A N o, s i r . 14 Q When M r. P e t t ig r e w r e tu r n e d w i t h th e r e s u lts car th e c a r , w h a t d id he do i f 16 anyone? I b e lie v e he was i n 18 It 19 c o n v e r s a t io n o r t o 20 a s s is t e d 21 Q 22 23 d id y o u s e a rc h o f t h a t s e a rc h ? So b y h i s c o n ta c t T h a t 's he m eet I was n o t p r e s e n t f o r see a n y th in g change h a n d s , he m et w ith w i t h FBI A g e n t K a re n P e r tu s o . th o s e ta s k s and r e tu r n in g , a f t e r he e x i t e d a n y th in g o r d id was h e r i n v e s t i g a t i o n . in th a t c a r, I s im p ly t h a t was i t . w i t h h e r and y o u s e a rc h e d c a r and t h a t was th e e x t e n t o f y o u r d u t ie s ? A th e e ith e r ? 15 A th e v e h ic le ? a f t e r he e x it e d th e v e h ic le ? 7 17 re n ta l c o rre c t. 24 MR. BELLA; Thank y o u , s ir . 25 THE COURT; C ro s s D a v is . th e

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436 ANDREWS - CROSS EDWARDS 1 MR. TRUITT: No q u e s t io n s . 2 THE COURT: 3 MR. MCGRATH: 4 THE COURT: 5 MR. JACKSON: Y o u r H o n o r. C ro s s D u r r . N o th in g , Y our H o n o r. C ro s s E d w a rd s. Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. JACKSON: 6 7 8 O f f i c e r A n d re w s , d id y o u accom pany M r. P e t t ig r e w 9 p u rc h a s e , d i d y o u accom pany him ? 10 f o r th e N o, s i r . 11 MR. JACKSON: N o th in g f u r t h e r . Y o u r H o n o r. 12 THE COURT: R e d ir e c t G o v e rn m e n t. 13 MR. BELLA: N o th in g f u r t h e r . 14 THE COURT: R e c ro s s D a v is 15 MR. TRUITT: 16 THE COURT: 17 MR. McGRATH: 18 THE COURT: Y o u r H o n o r. N o th in g , Y our H o n o r. R e c ro s s D u r r . N o th in g . You may s te p dow n, th a n k yo u f o r c o m in g . (The w itn e s s was e x c u s e d .) 19 20 THE COURT: C a ll y o u r n e x t w it n e s s . 21 MR. BELLA: O f f i c e r R o p e r. 22 THE COURT: R oper? 23 MR. BELLA: Y e s , Y o u r H o n o r. 24 __ S p e c ia l A g e n t R oper i s 25 e a r lie r . b e in g O f f i c e r R op er i s r e c a lle d ; b e in g he had t e s t i f i e d

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ROPER - DIRECT 437 1 THE COURT: 2 Do c o u n s e l w a n t th e o a th r e - a d m in is te r e d ? 3 MR. TRUITT: 4 MR. McGr a t h : No, Y our H o n o r. 5 MR. JACKSON: No. 6 THE COURT: You r e a l i z e y o u 'r e s till No, Y o u r H o n o r. P le a s e be s e a te d , p u l l y o u r c h a i r u p , 7 spe ak d i r e c t l y 8 e v e ry b o d y may h e a r . in to th e m ic ro p h o n e lo u d enough so t h a t KENNETH ROPER 9 resum ed th e s ta n d , h a v in g been p r e v i o u s ly d u ly s w o rn t o t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t th e t r u t h , was exa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d f u r t h e r as f o l l o w s ; 10 11 DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BELLA: 12 13 14 Q W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ? 15 A K e n n e th R o p e r, R -O -P -E -R . 16 Q W hat i s 17 A S p e c ia l a g e n t w i t h 18 Q S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, have y o u t e s t i f i e d y o u r o c c u p a t io n , s ir ? th e F B I. p r o c e e d in g and yo u u n d e r s ta n d y o u 'r e 19 20 A C o rre c t. 21 Q E xcuse me f o r a s e c o n d . 22 u n d e r o a th . S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, c a llin g p r e v i o u s ly s till in u n d e r o a th ? y o u r a tte n tio n to 23 A p r i l 2 3 , 1 9 9 0 , d id you have o c c a s io n t o m eet w i t h 24 i n d i v i d u a l b y th e name o f W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 25 C o rre c t. an t h a t day? th is

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438 ROPER - DIRECT 1 Q And c o u ld y o u t e l l us w h a t y o u r d u t ie s and w h a t y o u r a c tiv itie s w ere t h a t day when you m et w i t h him ? I m et w i t h P e t t ig r e w 4 w o r k in g i n an u n d e rc o v e r c a p a c it y . 5 lo c a tio n 6 t o make a d ru g b u y . 2 3 A th a t day. The p u rp o s e was I was I m et w i t h h im a t a and th e p u rp o s e was t o accom pany h im t o p ic k up 7 Q And d id y o u m eet w i t h 8 A Y e s. 9 Q And who e ls e d id y o u m eet w ith ? 10 A K a re n P e r tu s o , we had some d e t e c t i v e s , P o lic e 11 12 Q D e p a rtm e n t. any o th e r a g e n ts t h a t d a y as w e ll? some In d ia n a S ta te A fe w o t h e r s . Now, when yo u m et w i t h K a re n P e rtu s o and W a lte r P e t t ig r e w , 13 can yo u t e l l us w h a t y o u d id t h a t d a y , w h a t y o u r a c t i v i t i e s 14 w ere ? 15 A We m et h im , we s e a rc h e d h im , 16 h is 17 m y s e lf ; 18 lo c a tio n 19 v e h i c le 20 p e rs o n . Then we b o th l e f t I was d r i v i n g . in I p u t on a r e c o r d in g d e v ic e G a ry , We l e f t I n d ia n a , and he w e n t t o And he w e n t i n ; to g e th e r, P e t t ig r e w a t w h ic h tim e he e x i t e d a th e a r e s id e n c e . he came b a ck w i t h an i n d i v i d u a l , b o th o f them fe m a le s . 22 came i n t o The b o th o f them came b a c k ; 23 th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r S to r e a t w h ic h tim e 24 us e x i t e d 25 e n tra n c e . And she d i r e c t e d me t o , th e v e h i c l e . and th e h o t e l and we w e n t t o 21 th e c a r . on We w e n t i n t o th e y I b e lie v e th e th e it 's th re e th e e m p lo y e e s ' of

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439 ROPER - DIRECT When we g o t i n , 1 2 and th e p e rs o n , 3 P e t t ig r e w t o 4 room ; I 5 ro om ; I h e a rd th e v o ic e . 6 fro n t; 7 Q th e we w e n t t o a s m a ll room i n fe m a le t h a t was w i t h u s , E d w a rd s. I h e a rd h i s v o ic e . saw a p a r t i a l v ie w o f th e P e t t ig r e w she in t r o d u c e d He w e n t t o s m a ll saw a bed i n th e And th e n we came b a ck t o s ta y e d i n L e t me s to p yo u t h e r e . room ; I th e b a c k , th e th e room . You say y o u i n d ic a t e d y o u h e a rd a v o ic e ? 8 9 A C o rre c t. 10 Q And d id yo u l a t e r d e te rm in e whose v o ic e 11 A Y e s. 12 Q Who was t h a t ? 13 A Lee E d w a rd s. 14 Q When y o u f i r s t w e n t w i t h W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 15 t o m eet t h i s woman, w h a t i s 16 know w he re t h a t was? 17 A Y e s. 18 Q Yes? 19 A Y e s, 20 Q And w h a t c i t y 21 A G a ry , 22 Q A ll t h a t was? to th is y o u r u n d e r s ta n d in g ? lo c a tio n Do y o u The r e s id e n c e ? 460 T a f t . was t h a t in ? I n d ia n a . r ig h t. You m et up w i t h th is woman and th e n w e n t t o th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r S to re ? 23 24 A C o rre c t. 25 Q O ka y. When yo u f i r s t a r r i v e d a t th e B la c k H orsem an L iq u o r

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440 ROPER - DIRECT S t o r e , w h a t d id you o b s e rv e ? 1 2 A When I fir s t g o t th e re , 3 h a n g in g o u t i n 4 th e 5 p e o p le j u s t h a n g in g o u t . 6 Q A fro n t o f — in They w ere j u s t — f r o n t o f th e l i q u o r j u s t h a n g in g o u t , And w he re d id yo u — w h a t s o r t s th is 7 8 s id e . th e r e w ere s e v e r a l p e o p le j u s t liq u o r T h e re i s q u ite a m a in e n tr a n c e , f r o n t e n tr a n c e w he re m o st o f I is 11 t h a t d id n o t a p p e a r t o be v ie w e d by th e p u b l i c . an e m ploye e e n tr a n c e on th e s id e ; 12 Q And w h ic h e n tr a n c e d id yo u use? 13 A We u se d th e s id e e n tr a n c e . 14 Q When yo u e n te r e d th r o u g h th e Then t h e r e on a s id e e n tr a n c e s id e e n tr a n c e , p le a s e p i c k up 15 a g a in and t e l l us w h a t yo u o b s e rv e d when yo u e n te r e d 16 th r o u g h th e A O kay. s id e e n tra n c e ? When we e n te r e d , it was th e t h r e e o f us, 18 m y s e lf and a la d y d e s c r ib e d t o me as E l l a . 19 w a lk e d i n ; 20 t h e r e was a s m a ll h a llw a y le a d in g t o 21 we w a lk e d i n t o lik e The th r e e o f us w a lk e d t o P e ttig r e w , The t h r e e o f us th e m a in room a t w h ic h tim e a b e d ro o m . th e b e d ro o m . 22 a p p ro a c h in g th e be d ro o m , E l l a 23 w e re h e re and t h a t P e t t ig r e w was i n 24 tim e he was g r e e te d by E d w a rd s , and E l l a 25 th e d o o r ; I to s to r e ? 10 17 on a fe w o f e n tr a n c e s a re t h e r e g u e ss th e c u s to m e rs w o u ld go t o make p u rc h a s e s . 9 s to re When we w e re made an an nou ncem ent t h a t we f a c t h e re . and I can j u s t see a p a r t i a l v ie w o f th e A t w h ic h s to p p e d a t room ; I can

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441 ROPER - DIRECT 1 see t h a t th e r e was a bed i n 2 v o ic e . th e room and I A t w h ic h tim e — 3 Q T h is was i n s id e 4 A I n s id e th e l i q u o r s to r e ? th e l i q u o r s t o r e w a lk in g to w a rd s th e 5 tim e E l l a 6 lo b b y o f i n s id e and I And w h a t — w he re d id W a lte r P e t t ig r e w go? 8 A He was i n Q room . He w e n t d i r e c t l y in to th e room and we When y o u w e n t t o th e m a in p a r t o f th e s t o r e w i t h A O kay. A t w h ic h p o i n t I s a t down and I was w a i t i n g 13 and E l l a was a p p a r e n t ly d o in g th e b u s in e s s o f th e 14 y o u know , 15 r e g i s t e r and d e a lin g w i t h w hat W hat d id y o u do w h ile yo u w ere up th e r e 17 A I was s i t t i n g th e re . We w o u ld g e t i n t o , 18 s im p le d ia lo g u e once i n 19 was j u s t s i t t i n g th e r e th e n ? y o u know , l i t t l e a w h ile when she had a b r e a k . And I and j u s t w a i t i n g . By th e w a y, d id yo u i d e n t i f y y o u r s e l f t o a n y o f th e p e o p le 21 th e re 22 w h a t c a p a c it y w e re you w o rk in g ? A s to re ; c u s to m e rs . Q Q f o r h im she was j u s t g o in g a b o u t r u n n in g th e c a s h 16 23 E lla , ha ppened th e n ? 11 20 th e m a in came b a c k . 9 12 A t w h ic h o f th e s t o r e . Q th e room . r e tu r n e d fro m th e h a llw a y b a ck t o 7 10 can h e a r a N o, a t th e l i q u o r I d id n o t.. s to re I was i n as a la w e n fo rc e m e n t o f f i c e r ? an u n d e r c o v e r c a p a c it y , 24 a s k e d my name so I d i d n ' t o f f e r 25 s a y la w e n fo rc e m e n t. it. B u t I d id — In so no one I d id not

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442 ROPER - DIRECT 1 Q And w h a t w ere you supposed t o be a c t in g as t h a t day? 2 A O kay. I was a c c o m p a n y in g P e t t ig r e w ; j u s t h a n g in g o u t f o r th e p u rp o s e o f m a k in g a d ru g p u rc h a s e . 3 4 Q D id yo u m eet anyone e ls e a t th e l i q u o r 5 A Y e s. I was in t r o d u c e d t o som eone. 6 th e r e was a la d y b e h in d th e 7 h e r v e ry c a u s a lly . 8 L a t e r on a la d y came o u t ; 9 E d w a rd s, s to re t h a t day? When y o u w a lk e d i n , r e g is te r , I was in t r o d u c e d t o A name, I d i d n ' t p ic k up on th e name. she was in t r o d u c e d t o me as L o r r i so we came — we e xch ang ed g r e e t in g s and I ju s t w e n t b a ck t o my — 10 11 Q I 'm s o rry ? 12 A Then I w e n t b a ck t o w he re I was and s a t dow n. 13 Q And w h a t ha ppened th e n ? 14 A And I was s i t t i n g 15 g o in g on i n 16 b a ck o u t . th e and w a i t i n g s to re and j u s t o b s e r v in g w h a t was and w a i t i n g 17 Q And w h e re was P e t t ig r e w d u r in g a l l 18 A He was i n 19 Q W hat ha ppened a f t e r 20 A f o r P e t t ig r e w th is to come tim e ? th e b a ck room . th a t? a w h ile he came o u t , E dw ards and P e t t ig r e w 21 and an i n t r o d u c t i o n was made. He — P e t t ig r e w 22 me t o E d w a rd s , we e x ch a n g e d g r e e t in g s . 23 m e a n in g P e t t ig r e w , 24 we w e re le a v in g th e 25 I w ent back in And a l l came o u t in t r o d u c e d o f us, E d w a rd s , m y s e lf and E l l a w e n t to w a rd s s to re , and a t t h a t p o i n t P e t t ig r e w th e c a r and we d ro v e aw ay. and

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ROPER - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q Where d id yo u go t o a f t e r yo u l e f t 2 A We w e n t b a ck t o 3 Q D id y o u 4 443 th e l i q u o r have o c c a s io n t o o b s e rv e i f P e t t ig r e w had a n y t h in g w i t h h im a f t e r le a v in g h is m e e tin g w i t h M r. Edw ards? A Y e s. 6 Q And w h a t i f 7 A A p a cka g e o f s u b s ta n c e we th o u g h t t o be d r u g s . 8 Q W here d id yo u go a f t e r 9 A We w e n t d i r e c t l y 10 Q And a t t h a t l o c a t i o n , 11 a n y th in g d id he have on him ? le a v in g b a ck t o th e l i q u o r s t o r e th e n ? th e h o t e l . d id yo u m eet up w i t h th e o t h e r la w e v e ry o n e e ls e was w a i t i n g fo r e n fo rc e m e n t o f f i c e r s ? A 13 Y e s, when I g o t b a ck th e r e us. 14 MR. BELLA: Thank y o u , 15 THE COURT: C ro s s D a v is . 16 MR. TR U ITT: 17 THE COURT: 18 MR. MCGRATH; 19 THE COURT: 20 MR. JACKSON; 21 N o th in g , s ir . You may a s k . Y our H o n o r. C ro s s D u r r . N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. C ro s s E d w a rd s. Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. JACKSON: 22 23 th e n ? th e h o t e l . 5 12 s to re Q S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, A p r i l 2 3 , 1990, you s ta te d 24 s e a rc h e d th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t? 25 Y e s. th a t you

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444 ROPER - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q Where d id t h i s 2 A A t th e h o t e l . 3 Q W h ich h o t e l was t h i s ? 4 A The L a Q u in ta . 5 Q W here i s 6 A T h a t I b e lie v e 7 Q Can yo u d e s c r ib e t h a t lo c a te d ? on 65 and 30 i n M e r r i l l v i l l e . f o r itie th e s e a rc h on A p r i l 23# 1 9 9 0 / b e fo r e he d id d e p a rte d ? 8 9 s e a rc h ta k e p la c e ? A O kay. B a s ic a lly it was a p a t down t o make s u re t h a t he d i d n ' t have a n y th in g on h im , any c o n tra b a n d on h im . 10 11 Q D id y o u you d i d n ' t ta k e o f f — 12 A And t r y i n g a n s w e r. 14 C o u n s e l, a llo w th e w itn e s s to fin is h A You may p r o c e e d . O kay. The p u rp o s e was t o s e a rc h and t o make s u re he d i d n ' t have any c o n tra b a n d on h im . 17 Q B u t y o u d i d n ' t ta k e a l l h i s a l l h is 19 c lo t h e s o f f , was n o t a s t r i p c lo t h e s o f f o r have h im ta k e d i d you? 20 A It 21 Q So y o u d i d n ' t make th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t s t r i p s e a rc h , n o . n o t h in g and s e a rc h h i s u n d e rw e a r and s o c k s , 22 23 A N o. 24 Q Now, a t th e tim e y o u a r r i v e d 25 h is THE WITNESS: 15 18 — THE COURT: 13 16 to lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h a t th e l i q u o r th e c o n f i d e n t i a l down t o c o rre c t? s to re , d id you in f o r m a n t a t a n y

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ROPER - CROSS EDWARDS 1 p o in t in tim e w h ile you w ere in s id e 2 A Y e s. 3 Q A t w hat p o in t in 4 A When th e y w ere i n 5 6 th e l i q u o r 445 s to r e ? tim e d id yo u lo s e v i s u a l c o n ta c t? th e room . When th e y w ere i n th e b a c k room . Q D id yo u have an y eye c o n ta c t? 7 you t e s t i f i e d 8 th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t , I n o t h e r w o rd s , I b e lie v e t h a t th e r e was a r e c o r d in g d e v ic e p la c e d on c o rre c t? 9 A C o rre c t. 10 Q D id y o u have a r e c e iv in g u n i t f o r t h a t r e c o r d in g d e v ic e ? 11 A N o, 12 Q So y o u l o s t v i s u a l and eye v ie w c o n ta c t? 13 A C o rre c t. 14 Q F o r a p p r o x im a te ly how lo n g ? 15 A I t 's 16 Q How many m in u te s w o u ld t h a t be? 17 A Maybe f i f t e e n . 18 Q W ould I be a c c u r a te I d id n 't . d iffic u lt to say. 19 e y e v ie w c o n t a c t w i t h 20 tim e t h a t he was i n 21 A C o rre c t. 22 Q And t h a t e n t i r e in A fe w m in u te s . s a y in g t h a t y o u l o s t v i s u a l and th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t th e e n t i r e th e b a ck room? t r a n s a c t io n to o k p la c e a b o u t f i f t e e n m in u te s ? 23 24 A Y e s, g iv e o r ta k e . 25 Q W ould i t have been p o s s ib le f o r th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t

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446 ROPER - CROSS EDWARDS to 1 le a v e th e l i q u o r 2 A A n y th in g i s 3 Q But i t 4 A It p o s s ib le . I t 's Q h ig h ly u n lik e ly . p o s s ib le ? w o u ld be — I d o n 't know how he c o u ld . I b e lie v e yo u t e s t i f i e d o f th e l i q u o r s t o r e 7 in th e Y e s. 9 Q And t h a t t h e r e was a s id e d o o r? 10 A Y e s. 11 Q T h a t yo u e n te r e d th ro u g h ? 12 A Y e s. 13 Q And t h i s 14 A C o rre c t. 15 Q W ould he have had a c c e s s t o c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t was b a ck i n t h a t a re a ? t h a t s id e d o o r d u r in g t h i s 1 5 -m in u te p e r io d ? 16 A N o, be ca u se I was b e tw e e n h im , th e room and th e s id e d o o r , so he c o u ld n o t le a v e w it h o u t me k n o w in g i t . 18 Q To th e b e s t o f y o u r k n o w le d g e , w ere t h e r e 20 e n tr a n c e s o r e x i t s 21 have had a c c e s s to ? 22 A I d o n 't know . 23 Q W ith r e s p e c t t o th e an y o t h e r fro m th e l i q u o r s t o r e w h ic h he w o u ld r e c o r d in g d e v ic e , w h a t ty p e o f r e c o r d in g d e v ic e was p la c e d on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t? 24 25 fro n t r e c e p t io n a re a ? A 19 I t w o u ld h i g h l y t h a t yo u w ere s e a te d a t th e 8 17 1 5 -m in u te p e r io d ? u n lik e ly . 5 6 is s t o r e d u r in g t h i s A A ta p e , a ta p e r e c o r d in g d e v ic e .

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447 ROPER - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q Do yo u know th e b ra n d name, th e ty p e ? 2 A N o. 3 Q Were yo u r e s p o n s ib le 4 th is 5 A 6 Q 7 tim e d e v ic e ? N o, n o . B u t y o u w ere r e s p o n s ib le f o r p la c in g th is u n i t on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r it ia n t , w ere yo u n o t? 8 A 9 Q 10 C o rre c t. D id yo u ch e ck t o see w h e th e r t h i s p r o p e r ly ? 11 A 12 Q 13 14 r e c o r d in g f o r m o n it o r in g a t a n y p o i n t i n . Y e s. Can y o u d e s c r ib e th a t th is A f o r me th e p ro c e d u re y o u u s e d t o a s s u re u n i t was o p e r a t in g p r o p e r ly ? B a s ic a lly it 's a r e c o r d in g d e v ic e and b e fo r e we go o u t , we 15 j u s t o p e r a te it 16 tw o , t o make s u re Who t o make it is 17 Q O kay. 18 A I d o n 't — I d o n 't r e c a l l . 19 Q 20 d e v ic e was o p e r a t in g s u re , a s im p le t e s t , o n e , tw o , r e c o r d in g . had c o n t r o l o f th e when was th e l a s t tim e t h i s r e c e i v i n g d e v ic e ? d e v ic e was — r e c e iv e d m a in te n a n c e ? 21 A I d o n 't know . 22 Q When was th e l a s t tim e t h i s 23 A I d o n 't know . 24 Q Is 25 A Y e s, t o my k n o w le d g e . th is th e o n ly m a ch in e was c a l i b r a t e d ? c o n t a c t y o u 'v e had w i t h M r. P e ttig r e w ? one,

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448 ROPER - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q D id y o u s e a rc h M r. P e t t ig r e w a g a in once y o u r e t u r n e d t o L a Q u in ta In n ? 2 3 A C o rre c t, y e s. 4 Q O kay. And a g a in , A It was a l i t t l e 7 s h ir t. 8 b u t we d id 9 Q A We d i d n ' t s t r i p rem ove h i s Was a n yb o d y e ls e in N o t — when I h im down; i t s e a rc h , th is is a Q O kay. rem ove h i s w a s n 't a s t r i p s e a rc h , c lo t h e s and we d id a th o r o u g h s e a r c h . c h a rg e o f s e a r c h in g M r. P e t t ig r e w on 1990? s e a rc h e d h im , I was n o t th e o n ly one t h e r e , t h e r e w ere o t h e r p e o p le w i t h u s . 12 13 was n o t a s t r i p b i t more th a n a p a t dow n; we d id th e 2 3 rd o f A p r i l , 10 11 th is p a t dow n, c o r r e c t ? 5 6 th e My q u e s t io n i s , B u t I d id d id a n y b o d y e ls e s e a rc h h im . s e a rc h t h i s c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t on A p r i l 23 o f 1990? 14 15 A Y es. 16 Q And who was t h a t ? 17 A To be __ I ' l l have t o r e f r e s h my m in d . It was tw o o f u s . L e t m e -c h e c k . 18 19 Q A re yo u r e f r e s h i n g y o u r memory? 20 A L e t me r e f r e s h my m em ory, y e s . 21 Q And w h a t do cum e nt a re y o u u s in g t o 22 A I 'm r e f r e s h y o u r memory? u s in g n o te s t h a t I w ro te a t th e Y e s, m y s e lf and S. A . W agoner. 23 24 Q B o th o f y o u d id a p a t down s e a rc h ? 25 A C o rre c t. t im e .

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ROPER - REDIRECT 1 Q W hat s iz e was th e p a c k e t o f c o n t r o l l e d — a lle g e d 2 c o n tr o lle d 3 Horsem an L iq u o r S to re ? 4 A 5 449 I t 's s u b s ta n c e t h a t was r e t r i e v e d a p a c k e t; I d o n 't r e c a l l , fro m th e B la c k a s m a ll p a c k e t. I d o n 't r e c a ll e x a c tly . 6 Q It 7 A Y e s. 8 Q B u t y o u d id n o t see n o r d id you h e a r by way o f t h i s 9 was a s m a ll p a c k e t? r e c o r d in g d e v ic e th e d e a l o r th e a lle g e d d e a l? 10 A No. 11 Q T h a t w e n t down? 12 A No. 13 Q W ould i t have been p o s s ib le f o r th e c o n f i d e n t i a l i n f o r m a n t , 14 P e t t ig r e w , 15 w h ic h y o u w o u ld n o t have been aw are o f? 16 A t o have o b ta in e d a d d i t i o n a l d ru g s a t t h a t tim e No. 17 MR. JACKSON: 18 THE COURT: 19 Q R e d ir e c t G o v e rn m e n t. S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, when yo u s e a rc h e d W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 22 a f t e r le a v in g 23 to 24 c lo th e s , 25 Y o u r H o n o r. REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BELLA: 20 21 N o th in g f u r t h e r . A th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r S to r e and r e t u r n i n g th e m o t e l, yo u i n d ic a t e d C o rre c t. is th a t c o rre c t? t h a t y o u had t o rem ove h i s

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450 ROPER - RECROSS EDWARDS 1 Q And i n s e a r c h in g h im e i t h e r b e fo r e o r a f t e r th e p u rc h a s e 2 was made a t th e B la c k Horseman L iq u o r S t o r e , 3 any c o n tra b a n d o r money on h im a t e i t h e r — a t th e tim e ? 4 A N o, I d i d n ' t . 5 Q When yo u w ere i n A When th e b o th o f them e x it e d o u t, 8 9 th e B la c k Horseman L iq u o r S t o r e , Q t h a t 's fro m th e b a ck room , t h e y came when th e i n t r o d u c t i o n was made. You i n d ic a t e d y o u w ere i n 10 o b s e rv e i f 11 yo u w ere th e r e ? anyone l e f t a p o s i t i o n w h e re y o u c o u ld t h a t room and l e f t 12 A T h a t 's 13 Q D id y o u o b s e rv e anyone e ls e A in t h a t room o r go i n No. MR. BELLA; Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r, 17 THE COURT: R e c ro s s D a v is . • MR. TR U ITT; N o th in g , 19 THE COURT: 20 MR. McGRATH: 21 THE COURT; 22 MR. JACKSON; t h a t 's a ll I have. Y o u r H o n o r. R e c ro s s D u r r . N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. R e c ro s s E d w a rd s. Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. RECROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. JACKSON; 23 24 25 or out o f and Lee E dw ards? 16 18 th e s t o r e w h ile c o rre c t. t h a t room o t h e r th a n W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 14 15 a t w hat p o i n t w ere yo u in t r o d u c e d t o Lee Edw ards? 6 7 d id y o u f i n d Q S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r, do y o u know w h e th e r Lee E dw ards w o rk e d

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ROPER - RECROSS EDWARDS 1 in th e l i q u o r s t o r e o r n o t? 2 A If 3 Q Yes? 4 A I b e lie v e he d i d , 5 Q And so he was an em ployee o f th e l i q u o r 6 A C o rre c t. 7 he w o rk e d i n s to re ; 8 Q 9 So i f th e l i q u o r s to r e ? yes. A th e liq u o r i n w h a t c a p a c it y I d o n 't know . I w e re t o s a y he was an em ploye e o f th e l i q u o r s to re , t h a t w o u ld n 't be a s u r p r is e ? No. 11 MR. JACKSON: 12 THE COURT: 13 N o th in g f u r t h e r . Y o u r H o n o r. R e - r e d i r e c t G o v e rn m e n t. FURTHER REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BELLA: 14 15 Q 16 Do y o u know w h a t c a p a c it y — is 17 A 18 I a s s o c ia te d w i t h th in k a s s o c ia te d w i t h Q T h a t 's 20 A C o rre c t. 21 th e B la c k Horseman L iq u o r S to re ? it; I know he was I d o n 't know e x a c t l y w h a t he d i d . th e e x t e n t o f y o u r k n o w le d g e o f h i s MR. BELLA: . i n w h a t c a p a c it y M r. E dw ards h e 's been a m a n a g e r, o w n e r. 19 22 s to r e ? I b e lie v e he was a s s o c ia te d w i t h a m anager o r s o m e th in g , 10 451 THE COURT: Thank y o u . R e - r e c r o s s D a v is . 23 MR. TR U ITT: N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. 24 THE COURT: R e -re c ro s s D u rr. 25 MR. MCGRATH: N o th in g , Y our H o n o r. a s s o c ia t io n ?

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DORSEY - DIRECT 1 THE COURT: 2 MR. JACKSON: 3 THE COURT: 4 452 R e - r e c r o s s E dw ards. N o th in g , Y our H o n o r. You may s te p dow n, th a n k y o u f o r c o m in g . C a l l y o u r n e x t w it n e s s . 5 (The w itn e s s was e x c u s e d .) 6 MR. BELLA: O f f i c e r D o rs e y , Y our H o n o r. 7 THE COURT: P le a s e be s e a te d , p u l l y o u r c h a i r u p , 8 speak d i r e c t l y 9 e v e ry b o d y i n in to th e m ic ro p h o n e lo u d enough so t h a t th e c o u rtro o m may h e a r . 10 You may p ro c e e d , 1 1 MR. BELLA: 12 c o u n s e l. Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. STEPHEN DORSEY 13 c a l l e d as a w itn e s s b y th e G o v e rn m e n t, b e in g f i r s t d u ly s w o rn t o t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t th e t r u t h , was e xa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d as f o l l o w s : 14 15 DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BELLA: 16 17 Q W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ? 18 A S te p h e n D o rs e y . 19 Q And w o u ld y o u s p e l l y o u r f i r s t 20 c o u rt re p o rte r, 21 F i r s t name i s 22 D -O -R -S -E -Y . name, l a s t name f o r th e p le a s e ? S -T -E -P -H -E -N , 23 Q And w h a t i s 24 A I am a d e t e c t i v e w i t h 25 Q C i t y o f w h a t? y o u r o c c u p a t io n , l a s t name i s D o rs e y , s ir ? th e C i t y o f M a rio n P o lic e D e p a rtm e n t.

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453 DORSEY - DIRECT 1 A I 'm a d e te c tiv e . 2 Q W ith w h a t? 3 A W ith th e C i t y o f M a rio n . 4 Q C i t y o f M a r io n , 5 A T h a t 's 6 Q D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , d r a w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n In d ia n a ? c o rre c t. t o June 1 1 , y o u have o c c a s io n t o m eet w i t h a W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 7 1990, th a t day? 8 9 A Y e s, 10 Q And can y o u t e l l me w he re yo u m et w i t h h im , who e ls e y o u ‘ m et w i t h and w h a t th e c ir c u m s ta n c e s o f t h a t m e e tin g was? 11 12 I d id . A I m et w i t h h im a t th e L a Q u in ta In n a lo n g w i t h D e t e c t iv e Tom 13 T r a th e n , 14 o u r d e p a r tm e n t. 15 th e re . 16 Q I c a n 't r e c a l l e v e ry b o d y e ls e And w h a t happened when you m et w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w A I was in fo r m e d t h a t I was g o in g t o 19 lo c a t io n . w h e r e we w ere g o in g t o 20 maybe h e r o in a t t h a t t im e . 21 t h a t was a t th e L a Q u in ta In n t h a t day? 17 18 S p e c ia l A g e n t M ark B e c k e r, L ie u t e n a n t J a y Kay fro m Q ta k e P e t t ig r e w to a a tte m p t t o b u y c o c a in e o r And w h a t d id y o u o b s e rv e a t th e L a Q u in ta In n o r w h a t d id 22 y o u do a t th e L a Q u in ta In n and w h a t w ere y o u r a c t i v i t i e s 23 t h a t day? 24 25 A My a c t i v i t i e s w ere t o d r iv e t h a t p o i n t a t th e L a Q u in ta , P e t t ig r e w to th e l o c a t i o n . At P e t t ig r e w was g iv e n a th o u s a n d

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454 DORSEY - DIRECT 1 d o llc u rs w o r th o f cash b y S p e c ia l A g e n t M ark B e c k e r , and we 2 a ls o t a lk e d a b o u t p u r c h a s in g 3 E d w a rd s. 4 Q And w h a t 5 A O kay. s u b s ta n c e fro m a Lee d id y o u do t h a t d a y th e n ? From th e r e we l e f t 5 — 7 was a l i q u o r 8 S to re . 9 a t o G a ry t o th e L a Q u in ta and we d ro v e t o an a re a 1 5 th and V i r g i n i a , s t o r e th e r e c a lle d We a r r i v e d t h e r e , I b e lie v e th e th e re th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r t h a t s t o r e was c lo s e d . We th e n — P e t t ig r e w th e n a d v is e d me t o go ta k e h im t o 10 a phone b o o th , w h ic h I d i d , and he w o u ld c a l l Lee E dw ards 11 up and th e n t r y up a d e a l th r o u g h th e p h o n e . to set 12 Q W hat ha ppe ned th e n ? 13 A P e t t ig r e w d id make c o n t a c t w i t h E dw ards and t o l d me th a t in 14 a b o u t te n m in u te s we w o u ld go t o h i s home and th e d e a l was 15 a lr e a d y s e t up t o b u y t w o - f i f t h s , 16 q u a r te r - o u n c e bags o f h e r o in . 17 Q 18 A And w h a t d id yo u do We th^en a r r i v e d in 19 fro n t o f a l i t t l e 20 E d w a rd s ' 21 te s t im o n y i s 23 b a se d up on th e r e 24 25 s to re MR. JACKSON: 22 th e n ? th e r e s id e n c e . a re a o f 1 5 th and T a f t ; Lee And a t t h a t tim e th e — b a sed on f a c t s THE COURT: I p a rk e d i n a ro u n d th e c o r n e r fro m th e — O b je c t io n , is w h ic h w ere tw o Y o u r H o n o r, n o t in th e w i t n e s s 's e v id e n c e . And a ls o no f o u n d a t io n . C o u n s e l. (B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e re c o rd .)

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DORSEY - DIRECT MR. JACKSON: 1 H e'S t e s t i f y i n g 2 r e s id e n c e ; 3 E d w a rd s ' house — 4 e v id e n c e t h a t i t ' s t h a t th e Lee E d w a rd s ' th e r e has been no fo u n d a t io n l a i d MR. BELLA: 5 455 r e s id e n c e . h is It assumes f a c t s I e x p e c t h is 7 he was d i r e c t e d b y W a lte r P e t t ig r e w . it 's 9 r e s id e n c e i d e n t i f i e d h is It s h o u ld in d ic a t e d as s u c h , n o t t h a t r e s id e n c e . THE COURT: A re yo u g o in g t o 11 MR. BELLA: S u re . 12 THE COURT: I 'm If not c la r ifie d , 14 m o tio n . I 'll s tr ik e it. 15 n e c e s s it y t o s tr ik e it. MR. JACKSON: c la r ify g o in g t o o v e r r u le 13 16 it t o h im as Lee E d w a rd s , w h e re 10 it 's Lee n o t in te s t im o n y w i l l be th e — was th e MR. JACKSON: is r e s id e n c e . 6 8 th a t i t th e n I ' l l But i f — it 's if it th is fo r up? r i g h t now . y o u re -m a k e th e c le a r e d up t h e r e 's no Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 17 18 THE COURT: 19 MR. BELLA: O v e r r u le d . 20 D id y o u . D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , do yo u have a n y p e r s o n a l 21 kn o w le d g e o f t h i s b e in g Lee E d w a rd s ' 22 A N o. 23 Q D id he d i r e c t yo u t o 24 A T h a t 's 25 Q Now, when y o u a r r i v e d re s id e n c e ? The k n o w le d g e I had w o u ld have been th r o u g h P e t t ig r e w . th is a d d re s s on 1 5 th and T a f t ? c o rre c t. a t 1 5 th and T a f t , w hat — d id you

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DORSEY - DIRECT 1 p a rk i n f r o n t o f th e 2 Lee E d w a rd s ' 456 re s id e n c e t h a t P e t t ig r e w A N o, I d id n o t . 4 Q W here d id yo u p a rk th e n ? 5 A Been a b lo c k away w here I had v i s i b l e c o n ta c t to Q You had in d ic a t e d yo u p a rk e d i n f r o n t o f a b u s in e s s e s t a b lis h m e n t o f some s o r t ? 8 9 A T h a t 's 10 Q And was t h a t — w he re was t h a t i n r e la t io n id e n tifie d r e s id e n c e ? 11 A c o rre c t. t o yo u as Lee E d w a rd s ' to A p p r o x im a te ly a b lo c k aw ay, p r o b a b ly j u s t t o th e 13 Q And w h a t happened th e n ? 15 A A t t h a t tim e P e t t ig r e w g o t o u t o f my v e h i c le 16 w a lk e d a c r o s s th e s t r e e t t o 17 me Lee E dw ards l i v e d . Q th e And y o u i n d ic a t e d th e and th e n t h a t yo u w ere p a rk e d i n a l o c a t i o n w h e re r e s id e n c e ? A T h a t 's 21 Q And w h a t d id yo u o b s e rv e happen th e n ? 22 A I c o rre c t. o b s e rv e d P e t t ig r e w g e t o u t, go up t o th e r e s id e n c e . 23 k n o c k e d , and a fe w seco n d s l a t e r he w e n t in s i d e 24 r e s id e n c e . Q le ft of i n w h ic h he t o l d 20 25 r e s id e n c e r e s id e n c e y o u c o u ld o b s e rv e th e 19 th e r e s id e n c e . 14 18 th e r e s id e n c e . 6 12 as re s id e n c e ? 3 7 id e n tifie d And w h a t happened th e n , w h a t d id yo u o b s e rv e ? th e He

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457 DORSEY - DIRECT 1 A s h o r t tim e l a t e r 2 r e s id e n c e . 3 my v e h i c l e . 4 w h it e W alked b a ck a c ro s s th e s t r e e t b a ck and g o t i n t o And a t t h a t p o i n t he gave me tw o e n v e lo p e s , e n v e lo p e s and s a id he d id make th e b u y o f h e r o in . MR. JACKSON: 5 h e a rs a y , 6 I v ie w e d h im com in g o u t o f th e it 's Y o u r H o n o r, THE COURT: R esp onse . 8 MR. BELLA: It H o n o r. It T h a t 's i s W a lte r P e t t i g r e w 's s ta t e m e n t. Y o u r e x p la in s w h a t happened t h a t d a y . THE COURT: 10 o b je c t. a s ta te m e n t may b y an o u t - o f - c o u r t d e c l a r a n t . 7 9 I 'll S u s ta in e d . 1 1 w h a t was s a id i s 12 tw o e n v e lo p e s re m a in s . 13 MR. JACKSON: 14 MR. BELLA: 15 W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 16 p a c k e ts ? T h a t p o r t i o n o f th e a n s w e r o f o rd e re d s tr ic k e n . T h a t'S fin e . came b a ck w i t h The f a c t t h a t he gave Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. th e s e tw o e n v e lo p e s , th e 17 A T h a t 's 18 Q And w h a t d id he do w i t h 19 A He th e n tu r n e d them o v e r t o me. 20 Q I 21 A I was a d v is e d th r o u g h W a lte r t h a t Lee Edw ards w a n te d me t o 22 c o rre c t. see. d r iv e W hat happened a f t e r s lo w ly p a s t h i s MR. JACKSON: 23 th o s e p a c k e ts ? 24 is 25 h e a rs a y . th a t? house. Y our H o n o r, I 'm g o in g t o o b je c t. a s ta te m e n t b a sed upon an o u t - o f - c o u r t d e c l a r a n t , T h is it's

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458 DORSEY - DIRECT 1 MR. BELLA: 2 tru th W e ll, th is is o f th e m a tte r a s s e r te d , o f f e r e d n o t t o p ro v e th e bu t fo r — 3 THE COURT: F o r th e a c t io n s 4 MR. BELLA: Y es. 5 THE COURT: L a d ie s and g e n tle m e n , 6 re s p o n s e i s n o t b e in g o f f e r e d 7 b u t f o r th e a c t io n s 8 MR. JACKSON: 9 MR. BELLA: 10 Q 11 A 12 is ta k e n . ta k e n ? th e s e — f o r th e t r u t h th is o f th e m a t t e r , O b je c t io n o v e r r u le d . Thank y o u . P le a s e c o n tin u e ? O kay. I was a d v is e d b y P e t t ig r e w t o d r iv e in f r o n t o f th e r e s id e n c e so t h a t Edw ards c o u ld ta k e a lo o k a t my v e h i c l e . 13 MR. JACKSON: 14 is n o t r e la t e d 15 s ta t e m e n t. 16 s ta te m e n t w as. THE COURT: 18 MR. BELLA: 19 Q 20 A 21 t o an a c t i o n I t 's 17 Y o u r H o n o r, o b j e c t i o n . r e la t e d to I t 's not — th is t h a t he to o k ba sed up on h e a rs a y e x a c t l y w h a t th e h e a rs a y O v e r r u le d . W hat d i d y o u do th e n ? I th e n d ro v e i n f r o n t o f th e t h a t Lee E dw ards l i v e d in . 22 Q And w h a t ty p e o f v e h ic le 23 A I had a '7 8 b la c k v a n . 24 MR. BELLA: 25 THE COURT: If r e s id e n c e t h a t I was a d v is e d d id yo u have t h a t day? I may a p p ro a c h th e w it n e s s . You may. Y o u r H on or?

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459 DORSEY - DIRECT 1 2 MR. BELLA: Q I hand y o u , D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , w h a t 's been m arked 3 p u rp o s e s o f i d e n t i f i c a t i o n 4 a sk i f 5 y o u can i d e n t i f y THE COURT: 6 it, MR. BELLA: 8 THE WITNESS: A 10 as G o v e rn m e n t's E x h i b i t an y p o r t i o n o f t h a t e x h i b i t ? T h is has n o t been in t r o d u c e d b e f o r e , has No, Y o u r H o n o r. These w o u ld be th e tw o s m a ll e n v e lo p e p a c k e ts t h a t P e t t ig r e w had g iv e n me on th e 1 1 th . 11 Q And how do yo u know t h a t ? 12 A I have my i n i t i a l s 13 Q when d id yo u w r i t e 14 and th e d a te w r o te y o u ri n i t i a l s A 16 Q 17 A On 6 -1 1 o f and th e d a te on th o s e '9 0 . A f t e r M r. P e t t ig r e w T h a t 's gave th e p a c k e ts t o you? c o rre c t. 18 MR. BELLA: Thank y o u , 19 THE COURT: C ro s s D a v is 20 MR. TR U ITT: 21 THE COURT: . I have n o t h in g No q u e s t io n s . Y o u r H o n o r. C ro s s D u r r . MR. MCGRATH:N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. 23 THE COURT; 24 MR. JACKSON; 25 on t h e r e . p a p e r p a c k e ts ? 15 22 64 and c o u n s e l? 7 9 fo r C ro s s E d w a rd s. Thank y o u . Y our H o n o r. fu rth e r.

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460 DORSEY - CROSS EDWARDS CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. JACKSON: 1 2 3 Q D e t e c t iv e D o rs e y , d id yo u m a in t a in any ty p e o f c o n t a c t w i t h 4 th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t when he was in s i d e 5 in A N o, I had no c o n v e r s a tio n s w i t h h im a t a l l , 7 Q So y o u r v i s u a l c o n t a c t , 8 c o r r e c tly , 9 th e if r e s id e n c e , is T h a t 's c o rre c t. 11 Q O kay. How lo n g was t h i s in s i d e th is c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t , M r. r e s id e n c e ? 13 A P r o b a b ly a p p r o x im a te ly f i v e 14 Q D u r in g t h a t f iv e - m in u t e o r a u d io c o n t a c t w i t h 16 A T h a t 's 17 Q Now, d e s c r ib e A I p e r io d o f t im e , y o u had no v i s u a l th is in fo r m a n t? c o rre c t. f o r me i f c o u ld see th e f r o n t , th e 20 21 m in u te s . you w i l l , y o u r e x a c t v a n ta g e p o i n t o f th e h o u s e , w h a t c o u ld yo u see o f t h i s 18 19 tim e when he e n te r e d th a t c o rre c t? A P e t t ig r e w , Q no. I u n d e r s ta n d y o u r te s t im o n y was l o s t a t th e p o i n t i n 10 15 r e s id e n c e G ary? 6 12 th e re s id e n c e ? w o u ld have been th e fro n t p a rt o f r e s id e n c e . O ka y. And t o th e b e s t o f y o u r k n o w le d g e , d i d th is r e s id e n c e have a b a ck d o o r? 22 23 A I 'm s o rry ? 24 Q D id t h i s 25 A I r e s id e n c e have a b a ck d o o r o r a s id e d o o r? c a n 't r e c a l l .

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461 DORSEY - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q Can y o u d e s c r ib e 2 A I t 's f o r me th e a tw o -s to ry , I b e lie v e 3 q u ite 4 r e s id e n c e , f r o n t p a r t o f th e d e fin ite ly re s id e n c e ? it was w h ite a fe w b la c k s e c u r i t y b a rs i f c o lo r . Had remember r i g h t on th e r e s id e n c e . 5 Q So t h i s 6 A If 7 Q And i t ' s 8 A I b e lie v e 9 Q No cha nce i t was a o n e - s t o r y house? 10 A I b e lie v e was a t w o - s t o r y . 11 Q Was t h i s 12 A I 'm 13 Q Y o u 'r e n o t f a m i l i a r . So d u r in g 14 t im e , was i t f o r th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t t o 15 in I is I in remember r i g h t , a t w o - s t o r y house? yes. w h ite ? so. it on 460 T a f t , does t h a t sound r i g h t ? n o t f a m ilia r — th e p o s s ib le th is fiv e - m in u te p e r io d o f f r o n t d o o r and o u t th e b a ck d o o r? 16 A T h a t 's p o s s i b l e . 17 Q D id yo u s e a rc h t h i s 18 A S p e c ia l A g e n t B e c k e r d i d . 19 Q B u t yo u d i d n ' t p e r s o n a lly ? 20 A N o, s i r . 21 Q B e fo r e o r a f t e r ? 22 A N o, s i r . 23 Q And y o u have no p e r s o n a l k n o w le d g e as t o who owns t h a t r e s id e n c e , do you? 24 25 A N o, s i r . in fo r m a n t? go

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DORSEY - REDIRECT 1 MR. JACKSON: 2 THE COURT: N o th in g f u r t h e r , 462 Y o u r H o n o r. R e d ir e c t G o v e rn m e n t. 3 REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BELLA: 4 5 Q W here was t h i s re s id e n c e 6 A In 7 Q 1 5 th and T a f t . 8 A I t was a s id e 9 Q So i t 10 A I 'm 11 Q It 12 A No. 13 Q 1 5 th and T a f t ? 14 A 1 5 th I b e l ie v e . a g a in ? th e a re a o f 1 5 th and T a f t . And w h a t s tre e t o ff s tre e t d id y o u p a rk on? th e s t r e e t t h a t he l i v e d . w a s n 't n e a r 4 th and T a f t P la c e ? s o rry ? w a s n 't a t 4 th and T a f t P la c e t h a t y o u w e re a t? 15 MR. BELLA: I have no f u r t h e r q u e s t io n s . 16 THE COURT: R e c ro s s D a v is 17 MR. TRUITT: 18 THE COURT: 19 MR. MCGRATH: 20 THE COURT: 21 MR. JACKSON: 22 THE COURT: 23 24 25 N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. R e c ro s s D u r r . N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. R e c ro s s E d w a rd s. N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. You may s te p dow n, th a n k yo u f o r c o m in g . (The w itn e s s was e x c u s e d .) THE COURT: w it n e s s , c o u n s e l? C a ll y o u r n e x t w it n e s s . W ho's y o u r n e x t

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463 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT MR. BELLA: 1 May see i f 2 K a re n P e r tu s o . You r e a l i z e 4 h a v in g S p e c ia l A g e n t s h e 's p r e s e n t . THE COURT: 3 I 'm M a'am , p le a s e come t o y o u 'r e s till th e w itn e s s s ta n d . u n d e r o a th . 5 Do c o u n s e l w a n t th e o a th r e - a d m in is te r e d ? 6 MR. MCGRATH: 7 MR. TRUITT: 8 MR. JACKSON: 9 MR. BELLA: No, Y o u r H o n o r. N o, Y o u r H o n o r. No, Y o u r H o n o r. No, Y o u r H o n o r. KAREN L . PERTUSO 10 resum ed th e s ta n d , h a v in g been p r e v i o u s ly d u ly s w o rn t o t e s t i f y th e t r u t h , th e w h o le t r u t h and n o t h in g b u t th e t r u t h , was e xa m in e d and t e s t i f i e d f u r t h e r as f o l l o w s : 11 12 DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. BELLA: 13 14 15 Q W ould y o u s t a t e y o u r name, p le a s e ? 16 A K a re n L . P e r tu s o , 17 Q And w h a t i s 18 A I 'm 19 Q And S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , we u n d e r s ta n d t h a t y o u s p e lle d P -E -R -T -U -S -0 . y o u r o c c u p a tio n ? a s p e c ia l a g e n t w i t h 20 p r e v i o u s ly t e s t i f i e d 21 o a th ? in th e F B I. th is p r o c e e d in g and a re 22 A Y es. 23 Q S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , w ere yo u in v o lv e d 24 in v e s tig a tio n 25 Y e s, I w as. o f M r . Edw ards? in th e s till under

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 Q And w ere p a r t o f y o u r d u t ie s w i t h 2 in v e s tig a tio n , 3 O c to b e r 1 1 , Y es. 5 Q Were yo u p r e s e n t i n th e re s id e n c e a f t e r e n t r y was g a in e d and d u r in g th e e x e c u tio n o f th e s e a rc h w a r r a n t? A I was t h e r e f o r a p o r t i o n o f th e t im e . 8 a g e n ts t h a t t r a n s p o r t e d M r. Edw ards t o 9 o f f ic e sub sequ ent to h is a r r e s t . 10 e n tir e s e a rc h . 11 Q 12 o c c a s io n t o o b s e rv e any e v id e n c e A Y e s, 14 Q And w o u ld y o u t e l l us a b o u t t h a t , 15 A Y e s. 17 room f l o o r 18 o f a ’ w h it e pow der s u b s ta n c e i n 19 p a ja m a s . 22 had a lr e a d y been s e c u re d . fo r th e d i d y o u ha ve s e iz e d ? p le a s e ? fa c e down and a t t h a t tim e And w h a t d id you o b s e rv e i f r e s id e n c e , as I s a id M r. Edw ards was on th e l i v i n g h is I o b s e rv e d a p a c k a g e re a r p o c k e t o f h is a n y t h in g w i t h s u b s ta n c e o r w h a t happened t o A I was n o t th e r e A t th e tim e t h a t I e n te r e d th e it 21 th e U. S. M a r s h a l's I d id . 16 Q I was one o f th e D u r in g th e p e r io d o f tim e t h a t y o u w ere t h e r e , 13 20 th e 1 9 9 0 , when th e s e a rc h was c o n d u c te d ? A 7 re g a r d t o b e in g p r e s e n t a t 460 T a f t P la c e on 4 6 464 re g a rd to th a t it? S p e c ia l A g e n t V in c e B a lb o o f th e D rug E n fo rc e m e n t 23 A d m i n is t r a t i o n rem oved t h a t and handed i t 24 s u b s e q u e n tly handed t h a t t o 25 th e FBI who was i n t o me, and I S p e c ia l A g e n t M ark B e c k e r o f c h a rg e o f th e s e a rc h o f th e r e s id e n c e .

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465 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 Q And when yo u o b s e rv e d t h i s w he re w ere — 2 package i n M r. E d w a rd s ' p o c k e t, i n w h a t room o f th e 3 A T h is was i n 4 Q And was S p e c ia l A g e n t B a lb o and S p e c ia l A g e n t B e c k e r t h e r e A They w e re th e r e th e 7 8 room . w i t h y o u a t t h a t tim e ? 5 6 th e l i v i n g re s id e n c e was t h i s ? Q and th e r e w ere o t h e r a g e n ts a ls o p r e s e n t i n r e s id e n c e . D id yo u a ls o in c o n n e c tio n w i t h th is a ls o have o c c a s io n t o p a r t i c i p a t e 9 in v e s tig a tio n , in d id you th e m a k in g o f some 10 c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e s o f d ru g s fro m M r. Edw ards b y W a lte r 11 P e ttig r e w ? 12 A Y es, I d id . 13 Q And c o u ld y o u p le a s e t e l l us w h a t y o u r in v o lv e m e n t was i n th o s e p u rc h a s e s ? 14 T h e re w e re a s e r ie s o f s i x c o n tr o lle d 16 fro m M r. E dw ards u t i l i z i n g W a lte r P e t t ig r e w . 17 As th e case a g e n t f o r 18 m oney, 'th e b u y money as we c a l l 19 M r. P e t t ig r e w 20 o c c a s io n s , 21 p r io r 15 A to p u rc h a s e s o f d ru g s th e i n v e s t i g a t i o n , it, t h a t was p r o v id e d t o t o make th o s e p u rc h a s e s . th e b u y s . A ls o 23 fo llo w in g 24 fro m h im when th e b u ys w e re c o m p le te d . Q And on e a ch o f th e I was p r e s e n t when M r. P e t t ig r e w was s e a rc h e d 22 25 I h a n d le d th e in v o lv e d th e b u y s , in s e a r c h in g h i s v e h i c le p r io r to and and I a ls o o b ta in e d th e d r u g e v id e n c e D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n in p a r tic u la r to th e fir s t o f th e s e

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466 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 p u rc h a s e s on M arch 2 3 , 1 9 9 0 ; can you t e l l us w h a t y o u r 2 a c tiv itie s 3 On M arch 23 — t h a t was th e f i r s t o f th e s i x p u rc h a s e s 4 we m et a t a m o te l i n M e r r i l l v i l l e t o d e b r i e f M r. P e t t ig r e w 5 and t o 6 c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e . 7 t im e . 8 c o u ld m o n ito r h i s 9 h im w i t h r o u te 10 w ere and w h a t happened t h a t day? i n s t r u c t h im as t o w h a t he s h o u ld do d u r in g th e A t r a n s m i t t e r was p la c e d on h i s a c tiv itie s f o r h is p e rs o n so t h a t we s a fe ty . I p r o v id e d $600 ca s h and he* s u b s e q u e n tly l e f t M e r r i l l v i l l e t o M r. E d w a rd s ' MR. JACKSON: 11 He was th o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d a t t h a t r e s id e n c e . O b je c t io n , Y o u r H o n o r, e x c u s e me. n o t in en 12 assum es f a c t s e v id e n c e and a ls o 13 f o u n d a t io n l a i d 14 THE COURT: A re y o u g o in g t o 15 MR. BELLA: Y e s , Y our H o n o r. 16 THE COURT: O v e r r u le d . 17 MR. BELLA: a t t h a t s ta g e . 18 Q W hat w e r e - y o u r i n s t r u c t i o n s 19 A M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n s t r u c t e d Move t o th e re is It no p r o p e r s tr ik e . c la r ify th is , c o u n s e l? t o M r. P e ttig r e w ? to c o n t a c t M r. E dw ards and 20 p u rc h a s e , a tt e m p t t o p u rc h a s e a q u a n t i t y o f h e r o in 21 h im . 22 And was he i n s t r u c t e d 23 p ro c e e d t o M r. E d w a rd s ' 24 p u rc h a s e ? 25 Y e s , he w as. fro m once t h a t p u rc h a s e was a r r a n g e d , r e s id e n c e t o p e r p e tu a te th a t to

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 Q 2 Now, y o u in d ic a t e d t h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w was s e a rc h e d b e fo r e le a v in g t o make t h a t p u rc h a s e ? 3 A Y e s, he w as. 4 Q And was th e c a r he use d a ls o 5 A Y e s, 6 Q W hat happened a f t e r M r. P e t t ig r e w A 9 w as. He was s u r v e i l l e d o f th e 10 11 it s e a rc h e d ? l e f t w ith th e $600 yo u p r o v id e d h im t o make t h a t p u rc h a s e ? 7 8 467 b e lie v e Q 12 b y a g e n ts f o r th e F B I; a ls o Tom T r a th e n In d ia n a p o lis P o lic e D e p a rtm e n t, Tim A ndrew s I o f th e In d ia n a S ta te P o l i c e . Were y o u a ls o one o f th e a g e n ts who m a in ta in e d s u r v e illa n c e ? 13 A Y e s, 14 Q Can y o u t e l l us w h a t y o u o b s e rv e d as y o u w a tc h e d M r. 15 16 I w as. P e t t i g r e w 's A a c tiv itie s t h a t day? He w e n t t o 460 T a f t P la c e and th e r e he m et a woman 17 id e n tifie d as E l l a 18 d e p a r te d 460* T a f t P la c e en r o u te 19 th e y a p p ro a c h e d th e 20 and s u b s e q u e n tly l e f t . 21 L a w re n c e . He and E l l a r e s id e n c e , o b s e rv e d a t a p a y p h o n e . 23 1522 T a f t S t r e e t , 24 u p p e r w in d o w o f th e 25 th r o w k e y s down t o 1522 T a f t S t r e e t . k n o c k e d a t th e They w e n t t o a p a r t y s t o r e 22 to L a w re n ce th e n And fro n t door on T a f t S t r e e t and w e re They s u b s e q u e n tly w e n t b a c k t o and a t t h a t tim e we o b s e rv e d fro m an r e s id e n c e th e f a c in g th e s tre e t, someone s t r e e t and th e n th e y r e t r i e v e d th o s e

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468 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 2 keys. Q 3 When yo u sa y th e y r e t r i e v e d r e f e r r in g to ? 4 A E lla 5 Q When th e y r e t r i e v e d 6 La w ren ce and W a lte r P e t t ig r e w . u p s ta ir s th e k e y s t h a t w ere th ro w n down fro m th e w in d o w , w h a t d id th e y 7 A They opened th e 8 Q D id y o u c o n tin u e 9 A Y e s. 10 Q And w h a t happened XI A S u b s e q u e n tly th e y e x i t e d t o m a in t a in to 14 re tu rn e d to M e r r i l l v i l l e . A L a w re n c e . th e 13 15 460 T a f t p la c e , 18 it I b e l ie v e , and th e n s u b s e q u e n tly w h a t ha ppe ned th e n ? he had p u rc h a s e d t o h im t h a t was — 20 MR. BELLA: Your H o n o r, it 's h e a rs a y . W ith o u t g o in g i n t o w h a t M r. E dw ards — THE COURT: 23 s tr ik e 24 s ta te d . 25 L a w re n ce b a c k Lee E dw ards had r e p r e s e n te d MR. JACKSON:O b je c t io n , 22 W a lte r P e t t ig r e w M r. P e t t ig r e w d ro v e E l l a 19 Q r e s id e n c e , He was — he handed t o me a p a c k e t t h a t fro m Lee E d w a rd s . 21 s u r v e illa n c e ? when he r e t u r n e d t o M e r r i l l v i l l e , 17 r e s id e n c e . th e n ? and E l l a Q do th e n ? f r o n t d o o r and e n te r e d th e 12 15 th o s e k e y s , who a re y o u S u s ta in e d . C o u n s e l, I 'm n o t g o in g t o a n y p a r t o f th e a n sw er b e ca u se w h a t he s a id was n o t MR. JACKSON: Thank y o u . Y our H o n o r.

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469 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 2 MR. BELLA: Q 3 W ith o u t g o in g i n t o w h a t M r. Edw ards t o l d W a lte r P e t t ig r e w , d i d M r. P e t t ig r e w hand you t h i s 4 A Y e s, he d i d . 5 Q And w h a t d id y o u do 6 A I m a in ta in e d c u s to d y o f t h a t . w ith 7 was s e a le d , h e a t s e a le d , 8 was p la c e d i n 9 s u b m itte d t o 10 p a c k e t? R e tu rn e d t o and I p la c e d a s e a l on t h a t . It It C h ic a g o f o r a n a ly s is . If 12 THE COURT: You may. 13 MR. BELLA: Q Hand y o u . id e n tific a tio n 16 you A 18 I p u rp o s e s as G ove rnm ent E x h i b i t 60 and a s k i f can i d e n t i f y t h a t , Y e s, th is may a p p ro a c h th e w it n e s s . Y o u r H on or? S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , w h a t 's been m a rked f o r 15 is p le a s e ? th e p a c k e t t h a t I on M arch 23- o f 1 9 9 0 . I t 's Q And does y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t ? 20 A Y es, 21 Q 22 it r e c e iv e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w g o t my s e a l h e re a t th e 19 23 th e o f f i c e . th e D rug E n fo rc e m e n t L a b o r a to r y i n MR. BELLA: 17 th a t an e v id e n c e s a fe and was s u b s e q u e n tly 11 14 package? to p . does. Thank y o u . D id y o u have o c c a s io n t o p a r t i c i p a t e in any f u r t h e r o f th e s e c o n t r o l l e d bu ys? A Y e s, t h e r e w e re f i v e 24 p a r tic ip a te d 25 1990. in . subsequent buys, f o u r o f w h ic h I The n e x t one o c c u r r e d on A p r i l 23 o f

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 Q Can yo u t e l l us w h a t happened t h a t day? 2 A We f o llo w e d b a s i c a l l y 3 P e t t ig r e w 4 in s tr u c tio n s , 5 th e m o te l. 6 470 th e same p r o c e d u r e . in M e r r i l l v i l l e . We m et w i t h M r. We p r o v id e d h im w i t h th e same he was t h o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d p r i o r t o The v e h i c le le a v in g t h a t he was g o in g t o d r iv e was t h o r o u g h ly 7 s e a rc h e d . 8 and he was i n s t r u c t e d I p r o v id e d h im w i t h a th o u s a n d d o l l a r s t o p u rc h a s e h e r o in 9 Q And w h a t happened th e n ? 10 A He a rra n g e d f o r t h a t p u rc h a s e . in cash fro m M r. E d w a rd s . On t h a t o c c a s io n a ls o M r. 11 P e t t ig r e w was a c c o m p a n ie d b y S p e c ia l A g e n t Ken R op er o f th e 12 FB I who was a c t i n g 13 in an u n d e r c o v e r c a p a c it y . He was a cco m p a n ie d b y S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r; th e y l e f t 14 th e L a Q u in ta M o to r In n i n M e r r i l l v i l l e 15 p la c e . 16 th e y p ro c e e d e d t o 17 V ir g in ia T h e re th e y m et a g a in E l l a Q And w h a t ha ppened th e n ? 19 A They e n te r e d th e l i q u o r s t o r e , 21 e x ite d , 22 re tu rn e d to L a w re n c e , and fro m t h e r e th e y b e in g E l l a and S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r. and S p e c ia l A g e n t R oper and W a lte r P e t t ig r e w th e m o te l i n M e r r i l l v i l l e . Q And d id y o u — w h a t happened a t th e m o te l i n 24 A A t t h a t tim e we m et M r. P e t t ig r e w in th e L a w re n c e , S u b s e q u e n tly 23 25 460 T a f t G a ry . 18 W a lte r P e t t ig r e w to th e B la c k Horsem an L iq u o r S to r e a t 1008 A venue i n 20 en r o u t e room . M e r r illv ille ? and S p e c ia l A g e n t R op er M r. P e t t ig r e w p r o v id e d t o me th e p a c k e ts t h a t

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 he o b ta in e d fro m M r. E d w a rd s. 2 MR. JACKSON: 3 THE COURT: R esp onse . 4 MR. BELLA: I 'll 5 THE COURT: S u s ta in e d . 6 th e 7 MR. JACKSON: 8 MR. BELLA: 9 Q 10 O b je c t io n , re c o rd a t t h is A 12 Q T h a t 's to Q 17 T h a t an sw er i s Thank y o u . s tr ic k e n fro m Y o u r H o n o r. t o m eet w i t h M r. E dw ards p u rc h a s e ? And o b s e rv e th e t h in g s y o u j u s t t o l d 14 16 h e a rs a y . c o rre c t. P e t t i g r e w 's A it 's c le a r t h a t u p . You had i n s t r u c t e d M r. P e t t ig r e w 13 15 Y o u r H o n o r, p o in t. t o make a c o n t r o l l e d 11 471 a c tiv itie s . us a b o u t, M r. D id M r. P e t t ig r e w when he r e t u r n e d th e m o t e l, hand you a p a c k e t th e n ? Y e s, he d i d . Now once a g a in , M r. P e t t ig r e w was s e a rc h e d b e fo r e he l e f t , is th a t r ig h t? 18 A T h a t 's 19 Q T h is p a c k e t, he d i d n ' t have t h a t on h im when he l e f t 20 r ig h t. th e m o te l a t th e b e g in n in g o f th e d a y , d id he? 21 A N o, he d id n o t . 22 Q Now, w h a t d id y o u do w i t h 23 A The same p r o c e d u re was f o llo w e d . 24 th a t u n t il 25 b e lie v e I r e tu r n e d to th is p a c k e t t h a t he gave t o you? I m a in ta in e d c u s to d y o f th e o f f i c e t h e r e w e re tw o on t h i s a t t h a t t im e . o c c a s io n , And I tw o s e p a r a te

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472 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 p a c k e ts . They w ere s e a le d , h e a t s e a le d i n 2 f a s h io n . And my s e a l a p p e a rs a t th e to p o f t h a t b a g . 3 Q I 'm a s im ila r g o in g t o hand y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r p u rp o s e s o f 4 id e n tific a tio n as G overnm ent E x h i b i t 61 and a sk i f 5 id e n tify p le a s e ? 6 A th e p a c k e t t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w on A p r i l 23 o f 1 9 90. 7 8 T h is i s th a t, Q And i s y o u r s e a l — does y o u r s e a l a p p e a r a t th e to p o f t h a t p a c k e t? 9 10 A Y e s, 11 Q And i s 12 A Y e s, 13 Q W hat w e re y o u r n e x t a c t i v i t i e s it does. your seal s t i l l it in ta c t? is . w ith re g a rd to th e c o n t r o l l e d b u ys? 14 15 y o u can A The n e x t p u rc h a s e o c c u r r e d on June 11 o f 1 9 9 0 , and I was 16 n o t p re s e n t fo r th a t. 17 A u g u s t 31 o f 1 9 9 0 . The n e x t in v o lv e m e n t I had was on 18 Q Can y o u ’ t e l l us w h a t ha ppened t h a t day? 19 A We f o llo w e d th e same p ro c e d u re as we had on th e p r e v io u s 20 o c c a s io n s . We m et M r. P e t t ig r e w 21 in s tr u c te d 22 p u r c h a s in g h e r o in . 23 was s e a rc h e d and he d e p a r te d th e h o t e l en r o u te 24 E d w a rd s. 25 Q to in M e r r i l l v i l l e ; he was c o n t a c t M r. E dw ards f o r th e p u rp o s e o f He was t h o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d , h i s And w h a t happened th e n ? v e h ic le t o m e et M r.

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 473 1 S u b s e q u e n tly — d u r in g t h a t p e r io d o f tim e we w e re a lr e a d y 2 on th e w ir e t a p and we w ere i n t e r c e p t i n g 3 and m o n it o r in g th o s e c a l l s 4 s e n t someone t o C h ic a g o . 5 MR. JACKSON: no f o u n d a t io n l a i d 7 th e w i r e t a p . to 8 MR. BELLA: 9 m o n it o r in g th e c a l l s . W e ll, THE COURT: 1 1 THE COURT: 13 on th e w i r e t a p , she has t e s t i f i e d t h a t th e y w ere Y o u r H o n o r. F ir s t o f a l l , is n 't MR. JACKSON: 15 MR. BELLA: re c o rd .) c o u n s e l, w h a t 's b e in g s a id t h a t h e a rs a y ? T h a t was my n e x t o b j e c t i o n . W e ll, n o , n o t as a c o - c o n s p i r a t o r . THE COURT: T h a t 's u n d e r th e S a n tia g o ? 18 MR. BELLA: Y e s. 19 th is . 20 a tte n tio n 21 25 I d o n 't know i f to w ir e ta p , I d o n 't know w he re s h e 's g o in g w i t h I can c o n tin u e th e a c t i v i t i e s MR. JACKSON: T h a t'S to d ir e c t h e r o f th e d a y . fin e . h e r t e s t im o n y w i t h MR. BELLA; 23 24 I t 's H e a rs a y . 17 22 r e c e iv e d fro m C o u n s e l. 14 16 T h e re has been th e w ir e t a p o r a n y th in g (B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e 12 o f c a lls t h a t M r. E dw ards had Y o u r H o n o r, o b j e c t i o n . 6 10 in d ic a tin g a s e r ie s The o b j e c t i o n was t o re s p e c t to th e it. U n le s s she m ig h t d i r e c t — who was b e in g s a id . MR. JACKSON: She w a s n 't — one m om ent. Y o u r H onor?

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K. THE COURT: 1 (There 3 MR. 4 THE COURT: JACKSON: fo u n d a tio n 5 MR. 6 about 7 the 9 c o u n s e l, 10 MR. w ire ta p 11 I'm know le dge 13 MR. 14 does 15 s till JACKSON: stands, Your th e re can H onor. was no g o in g to te s tify in g about th e — S a n tia g o , p o rtio n . The la y and h e r te s tify in g is fo u n d a tio n p a rtic ip a tio n these p ro c e e d in g s .) you meant her th a t Okay. I the o b je c tio n about o v e rru lin g BE LLA : of the The h e a r s a y and h e r MR. 12 Yes, JACKSON: in w ire ta p . hearsay THE COURT: 8 a pause The o b j e c t i o n , fo r the was My o b j e c t i o n JACKSON: and 474 DIRECT You m ay. 2 w ith the a fu rth e r as fa r as the as to w ire ta p . fo u n d a tio n her c o n v e rs a tio n s . The o b j e c t i o n w ill s till stand u n til he so. (End o f 16 17 THE COURT: 18 MR. d is c u s s io n at the b e n ch .) S u s ta in e d . BE LLA : 19 You 20 m o n ito r e d d u r i n g 21 f a m i l i a r w it h re fe rre d . 22 A Y e s, 23 Q A n d who w e r e 24 A They w ere 25 PERTUSO - S p e c ia l th is Agent P e rtuso, w ire ta p , d id to you co m m u n ic a tio n s have o c c a s io n to and h e a r th e s e c o m m u n i c a t i o n s ? 1 d id . th e se betw een o rg a n iz a tio n , h is co m m u n ica tio n s Le e Edwards sources of betw een? and o t h e r s u p p ly of m em b er s h e ro in , of h is in c lu d in g be

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 Raymond D a v is i n 475 C h ic a g o . 2 Q And w h a t w ere th e n a tu r e o f th e s e c o n v e r s a tio n s ? 3 A They w ere d r u g - r e l a t e d 4 a t t e m p t in g t o 5 c o n v e r s a t io n s ; M r. E dw ards a rra n g e th e p u rc h a s e o f h e r o in and c o c a in e . MR. JACKSON: Y our H o n o r, o b j e c t i o n , 6 f o u n d a t io n as f a r as M r. E d w a rd s, 7 in to 8 it assumes f a c t s 9 C o u n s e l. (B ench d is c u s s io n on th e THE COURT: W a s n 't th e r e re c o rd .) t e s t im o n y e a r l i e r 11 w ir e t a p was a rra n g e d b y one o f th e i n d i v i d u a l s , 12 s a id 13 r e g a r d in g m in im iz a t io n and e v e r y t h in g e ls e 14 it MR. JACKSON: w ir e ta p . 17 one a c t u a l l y b e in g m o n ito r e d a t t h i s p o i n t . 21 th a t a he eve n assumes t h a t t h i s do yo u know i t is la id t h a t he i s s till 22 THE COURT: 23 MR. JACKSON: 24 THE COURT: 25 MR. JACKSON: he does t h a t , f o u n d a t io n . F o u n d a tio n . Y es. T h a t 's y o u r o b je c t io n ? Y e s. th e was and how was so and s o . Y e s, b u t u n t i l to Lee E dw ards on th e He can a s k , y o u know , who i t MR. JACKSON: o b je c tio n is T h e re has been no f o u n d a t io n THE COURT: r e g a r d in g t h a t ? B u t I mean as f a r as r e l a t e s 16 20 It R ig h t. Lee E d w a rd s. 19 • was Judge M oody, and t h a t th e y w ere i n s t r u c t e d 15 18 not yet e v id e n c e . THE COURT: 10 t h e r e has been no my

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476 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT THE COURT: 1 th e 2 I n s o f a r as n o t b e in g a b le to i d e n t i f y who i n d i v i d u a l s w e re . 3 MR. JACKSON: 4 THE COURT: T h a t'S O kay. c o rre c t, C o u n s e l, Y o u r H o n o r. is th is g o in g t o be c la r ifie d ? 5 6 MR. BELLA: Y es. 7 THE COURT: I 'm but i f 8 it is THE COURT: 10 o v e r r u le it s u b je c t so t h a t , not c la r ifie d . MR. JACKSON: 9 g o in g t o Do I need t o R e s ta te it, re s ta te th e o b je c t io n ? th e n I w i l l s tr ik e th e e n t i r e t e s t im o n y . 11 MR. JACKSON: 12 O kay. Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 13 MR. BELLA: 14 15 You t e s t i f i e d 16 a b le t o 17 re fe rre d t h a t yo u h e a rd th e s e id e n tify th e s p e a k e rs on th e s e r e c o r d in g s y o u to ? 18 A Many o f ,th e m , y e s . 19 Q And a re y o u f a m i l i a r w i t h 20 A Y es, 21 Q Were yo u a b le th e v o ic e o f Lee E dw ards? h i s v o ic e in I am. p a r tic u la r 22 r e c o r d in g s ; w e re y o u to id e n tify c o n v e r s a tio n s * y o u 'r e te llin g th e r e c o r d in g , us a b o u t now? 23 A Y e s. 24 Q And w h a t was — p le a s e c o n tin u e w i t h y o u r te s tim o n y ? 25 MR. JACKSON: Y o u r H o n o r, I 'm g o in g t o o b j e c t . May we

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477 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 a p p ro a c h ? THE COURT: 2 You may. (B ench d is c u s s io n on th e 3 MR. JACKSON: 4 F o u n d a tio n . re c o rd .) We have a f o u n d a t io n 5 o b je c tio n . Y o u r H o n o r, as f a r as h e r i d e n t i f i c a t i o n 6 v o ic e and how does she i d e n t i f y h i s v o ic e . 7 THE COURT: 8 MR. JACKSON: 9 Y o u r H o n o r, 1 1 o fte n 15 18 Why d o n 't yo u ask h e r how s h e 's a b le MR. MCGRATH: THE COURT: T h a t 's th e n a tu r e o f th e o b j e c t i o n . Your May we ta k e a m in u te b e fo r e he does You may. (T h e re was a pause i n 21 MR. JACKSON: 25 . th a t? THE COURT: 24 to H o n o r. 20 23 ask h e r a f u r t h e r q u e s t io n a b o u t how h i s v o ic e . 19 22 j u s t w a n t t o make th e o b j e c t i o n . re c o rd . I 'll MR. JACKSON: 16 17 I s h e 's h e a rd h is v o ic e . id e n tify 14 Y e s, f o r th e THE COURT: 12 13 C o u n s e l, y o u can c ro s s e xa m ine on t h a t . MR. BELLA: 10 o f h is th e p r o c e e d in g s . ) M r. B e l l a . I 'll w ith d r a w . I 'll w ith d r a w th e o b j e c t i o n and l e t h e r go ahead* and t e s t i f y THE COURT; You w ith d r a w a l l as i t th e o b j e c t i o n s s ta n d s . r e g a r d in g fo u n d a tio n ? MR. JACKSON; I w ith d r a w th e o b j e c t i o n w i t h re s p e c t to

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K. 1 her id e n tific a tio n 2 id e n tific a tio n 3 th a t a re a . PERTUSO - o f h i s v o ic e , o f h i s v o ic e . 478 DIRECT th e f o u n d a t io n f o r th e T h e r e 's no need t o g e t in to (E nd o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 4 MR. BELLA: 5 6 T h is c o n v e r s a tio n t h a t y o u 'r e 7 r e la te 8 Y e s, 9 he w e n t i n t o to it te llin g th e d a te on w h ic h t h i s d id . c o n t r o l l e d b u y to o k p la c e ? W hat M r. P e t t ig r e w th e us a b o u t, d i d t h a t i n d ic a t e d happe ned i s th a t r e s id e n c e on A u g u s t 31 and p r o v id e d t o M r. 10 E dw ards $3100 f o r th e p u rp o s e o f p u r c h a s in g a q u a n t i t y o f 11 c o c a in e and o f h e r o in . M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n 12 th e re s id e n c e f o r a v e r y lo n g 13 p e r io d o f t im e , and we le a r n e d fro m h im and th r o u g h th e 14 c o n v e r s a tio n s t h a t we had in t e r c e p t e d on th e w ir e t a p 15 th e 16 p e r io d o f tim e 17 had p r o v id e d t o h im , M r. P e t t ig r e w had p r o v id e d t o M r. 18 E d w a rd s , re a s o n t h a t he was i n is th e r e s id e n c e su c h a lo n g t h a t M r. E dw ards s e n t t h a t $3100 t h a t he t o C h ic a g o . And t h a t th e p e rs o n he s e n t t o 19 fo r th a t 20 o f s u p p ly had e n c o u n te re d p o l ic e 21 a t t e m p t in g t o p u rc h a s e h e r o in , 22 P e t t ig r e w had f r o n t e d 23 th e 24 T h is 25 who was i t ? C h ic a g o and h i s o f f ic e r s s o u rc e as th e y w e re and th e money t h a t M r. t o M r. Edw ards had been l o s t due t o f a c t t h a t th e s o u rc e o f s u p p ly had been a r r e s t e d . is w h a t th e s e c o n v e r s a tio n s b e tw e e n M r. E dw ards and

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K. PERTUSO - 1 A M r. Edw ards and Raymond 2 Q T h a t 's w h a t th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n 3 A 4 Q 5 T h a t 's A 7 Q D a v is ' p a ra m o u r L o r r a in e D o re n z o . w ere a b o u t? r ig h t. So t h a t was a t th e same tim e t h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w was t r y i n g to 6 479 DIRECT e ffe c t th is c o n t r o l l e d buy? C o rre c t. Now, when yo u sa y M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n M r. E d w a rd s ' 8 re s id e n c e f o r a lo n g t im e , w h a t tim e — p e r io d o f tim e 9 y o u t a l k i n g a b o u t? 10 A 11 Q 12 A He had been p r o v id e d w i t h $ 4 ,0 0 0 . 13 Q And d id yo u m eet w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w a g a in a f t e r he l e f t Mr 14 It a re was f o r h o u r s . How much money had y o u p r o v id e d P e t t ig r e w E d w a rd s ' re s id e n c e ? 15 A Y es, I d id . 16 Q And w h a t happened th e n ? 17 A 18 He p r o v id e d t o me a p p r o x im a te ly an e ig h th - o u n c e o f c o c a in e t h a t he. had t o l d 19 MR. JACKSON: 20 MR. BELLA: 21 me he had p u rc h a s e d fro m M r. E d w a rd s . O b je c t io n , Y o u r H o n o r, h e a rs a y . T h a t'S M r. P e t t i g r e w 's s ta t e m e n t. Your H o n o r. 22 MR. JACKSON: 23 W hich i s h e a rs a y . (B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e 24 25 t h a t day? THE COURT: tru th C o u n s e l, o f th e m a tte r f i r s t ? is th is re c o rd .) b e in g o f f e r e d S e c o n d ly , is n 't it f o r th e h e a rs a y

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 u n le s s i t ' s 2 w ith in MR. BELLA: 480 th e S a n tia g o p r o f f e r ? Y e s, Y o u r H o n o r. My q u e s t io n th o u g h , was 3 w h a t h a p p e n e d , and y o u know , and I was a t t e m p t in g t o e l i c i t 4 a re s p o n s e t h a t she was p r o v id e d th e p a c k e ts o f d r u g s , 5 s e a le d i t 6 and w e n t o n , and w e n t on fro m t h e r e . THE COURT: 7 So — Do yo u th e n a g re e w i t h d e f e n d a n t 's o b je c t io n ? 8 MR. BELLA: 9 Y es. (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 10 THE COURT: 11 o b je c tio n is 12 P e t t ig r e w s ta te d 13 th is 14 L a d ie s and g e n tle m e n , s u s t a in e d . is p o in t. th e a n sw e r i s — The an sw er i n s o f a r as t o w h a t M r. o rd e re d s t r ic k e n fro m th e re c o rd a t ' MR. BELLA: 15 W ith o u t g o in g i n t o w h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w 16 he o b ta in e d th e s e d r u g s , y o u d id m eet w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w 17 a f t e r he l e f t M r. E d w a rd s ' to ld y o u a b o u t w h e re re s id e n c e ? 18 A Y es. 19 Q And w h a t d id — w h a t happened when y o u m et w i t h M r. . 20 P e ttig r e w ? 21 He p r o v id e d t o me a p a c k e t and I m a in ta in e d c u s to d y o f t h a t 22 as I had p r e v i o u s ly , 23 was s u b m itte d t o 24 f o r a n a ly s is . 25 Q I and s u b s e q u e n tly s e a le d i t . And i t th e D rug E n fo rc e m e n t L a b o r a t o r y i n ask yo u t o exa m in e w h a t 's been m arked — C h ic a g o

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K. 1 If 2 THE COURT: 3 MR. BELLA: 4 Q 6 A You may. W h a t's been m arked as G overnm ent E x h i b i t 66 and a s k i f Y es. you G overnm ent E x h i b i t 66 f o r me, p le a s e ? T h is i s th e p a c k e t t h a t M r. P e t t ig r e w p r o v id e d t o me on t h a t d a te . 7 8 Q And — 9 A On S eptem b er 1 . 10 Q And w h a t d id yo u do w i t h t h a t p a c k e t t h a t he p r o v id e d t o you? 11 12 481 DIRECT I may a p p ro a c h . Y our H onor? can i d e n t i f y 5 PERTUSO - A I re tu rn e d to and th e n i t 13 th e o f f i c e , p la c e d i t in th is bag, s e a le d i t , was p la c e d i n .the e v id e n c e s t o r a g e . 14 Q And do es y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t on th e to p o f t h a t bag? 15 A Y es, 16 Q Thank y o u . it does. And c o u ld yo u t e l l us w h a t th e n e x t c o n t r o l l e d b u y was t h a t y o u had been in v o lv e d 17 in ? 18 A The n e x t b u y o c c u r r e d on S eptem b er 5. 19 Q Can yo u t e l l us w h a t happened t h a t day? 20 A On t h a t d a y we m et w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w M e r r illv ille , 21 was s e a rc h e d , 22 s e a rc h e d . 23 i n s t r u c t e d h im t o a r ra n g e a p u rc h a s e o f d ru g s fro m M r. 24 E d w a rd s . 25 Q th e v e h i c le in t h a t he was g o in g t o be u s in g was We p r o v id e d him* w i t h And w h a t happened a f t e r he th a t? I b e lie v e $900 i n c a s h and

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K. 1 A 2 PERTUSO - He d e p a r te d M e r r i l l v i l l e 482 DIRECT and w e n t t o 1522 T a f t S t r e e t , e n te r e d t h a t r e s id e n c e . 3 Q And w h a t th e n ? 4 A He s u b s e q u e n tly r e tu r n e d t o M e r r i l l v i l l e , 5 p a c k e ts t h a t I m a in ta in e d c o n t r o l o f u n t i l 6 in 7 th e o f f i c e . th e bag and s e a le d and p la c e d i n 8 MR. BELLA: 9 THE COURT: 10 11 If th e y w ere p la c e d th e e v id e n c e I may a p p ro a c h th e w it n e s s . s to r a g e Y o u r H on or? MR. BELLA: Q I hand y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r p u rp o s e s o f i d e n t i f i c a t i o n as G o v e rn m e n t's E x h i b i t 6 5 ; 13 t h a t f o r me, p le a s e ? A 15 T h is i s S eptem b er ’ on 5 o f 1990. Q 17 A Y es, I d id . 18 Q Does y o u r s e a l s t i l l 19 A Y e s, i t 20 Q 21 can y o u i d e n t i f y a p a c k e t I o b ta in e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w 16 And d id yo u s e a l t h a t p a c k e t a t th e to p ? re m a in i n t a c t ? does. And G o ve rnm ent E x h ib it 67; can yo u i d e n t i f y t h a t f o r me, p le a s e ? « 22 in You may. 12 14 p r o v id e d t o me A 23 Y es, t h is is a ls o a p a c k e t t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w on t h a t same 24 Q 25 A d a te . And d id y o u s e a l t h a t and t h a t bag as w e ll? Y es, I d id .

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K. PERTUSO - 1 Q And does y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t ? 2 A Y e s, 3 Q 4 it 483 DIRECT does. Thank y o u . W hat was th e n e x t c o n t r o l l e d b u y t h a t y o u had any in v o lv e m e n t w ith ? 5 A O c to b e r 9. 6 Q And can y o u t e l l us w h a t happened t h a t day? 7 A We m et w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w in M e r r i l l v i l l e , 8 h im th e a rra n g e m e n t he was t o make 9 h e r o in 10 and a tt e m p t t o p u rc h a s e fro m M r. E d w a rd s. He was t h o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d , th e v e h i c le 11 g o in g t o be u s in g was t h o r o u g h ly s e a rc h e d . 12 h im w i t h Q And th e n w h a t happened? • 14 A He d e p a r te d M e r r i l l v i l l e G a ry , 16 I n d ia n a . 17 is o u t s id e 18 b a sed on h e a rs a y . MR. BELLA: 20 THE COURT: 21 MR. BELLA: 23 A Y e s, we 24 Q O kay. 25 en r o u te to I p r o v id e d 460 T a f t P la c e i n Y o u r H o n o r, I 'm g o in g t o th e w i t n e s s 's p e r s o n a l k n o w le d g e . 19 Q And He e n te r e d t h a t r e s id e n c e . MR. JACKSON: 22 t h a t he was $9500 i n c a s h . 13 15 d is c u s s e d w i t h I 'll o b je c t. And T h is it 's c l e a r t h a t u p . Y o u r H o n o r. O v e r r u le d . D id y o u m a in t a in s u r v e i l l a n c e t h a t day? d id . W hat d id y o u o b s e rv e as y o u m a in ta in e d s u r v e i l l a n c e t h a t day?

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484 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 A We o b s e rv e d M r. P e t t i g r e w 's c a r p a rk e d i n P la c e . 2 3 Q And w h a t d id yo u o b s e rv e a f t e r 4 A We d id n o t m a in ta in s u r v e i l l a n c e 5 o f tim e due t o 6 th a t a re a . 7 Q th a t? o f h im th e e n t i r e A th e f a c t t h a t we w ere e a s i l y d e te c te d i n So w h a t d id yo u do in s t e a d o f j u s t w a i t i n g He was e q u ip p e d w i t h was g o in g on v i a 10 o u t s id e th e a t r a n s m i t t e r and we m o n ito r e d w h a t th a t tr a n s m itte r . 11 Q And w h a t w e re y o u a b le t o m o n ito r ? 12 A We w e re a b le t o m o n ito r h i s in s id e 13 14 p e r io d re s id e n c e ? 8 9 f r o n t o f 460 T a f t Q c o n v e r s a tio n s w i t h p e o p le t h a t r e s id e n c e . . Was one o f th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n s a c o n v e r s a t io n w i t h Lee E dw ards? 15 16 A Y e s, it w a s. 17 Q And w e re yo u a b le t o r e c o g n iz e and i d e n t i f y th e v o ic e r e c o g n iz e and i d e n t i f y h is of Lee Edw ards? 18 19 A Y es. 20 Q How w e re yo u a b le 21 A I had h e a rd i t to o v e r a p e r io d o f n e a r ly 60 d a y s . v o ic e ? I had a ls o 22 been — he had i d e n t i f i f e d h im s e lf on num erous o c c a s io n s 23 d u r in g 24 25 Q th e c o u rs e o f th e w i r e t a p . Id e n tifie d phone? h im s e lf, re fe rre d t o h im s e lf b y name on th e

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K. 1 A T h a t'S 2 Q A ll 3 4 th is A PERTUSO - c o rre c t. r ig h t. And as yo u m o n ito r e d th e s e c o n v e r s a tio n s th e re s id e n c e 5 o f tim e a g a in . 6 one p o i n t an i n d i v i d u a l e n te r e d th e 7 he had o b s e rv e d tw o w h ite 9 on d a te , w h a t w e re y o u r o b s e r v a tio n s ? He — M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n 8 485 DIRECT And d u r in g th e c o u rs e o f h i s MR. JACKSON: a n s w e r, it 's f o r a lo n g p e r io d guys i n Y o u r H o n o r, s ta y th e r e , at r e s id e n c e and s a id t h a t th e n e ig h b o rh o o d . I 'm g o in g t o o b je c t to th e ba sed upon d o cum e nts — a p p a r e n t ly t e s t i f y i n g 10 fro m some ty p e o f an e x h i b i t w h ic h has n o t been in t r o d u c e d 11 i n t o e v id e n c e , 12 t h a t b e in g th e THE COURT: 13 ta p e . C o u n s e l. (B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e 14 THE COURT: 15 MR. JACKSON: 16 h e a rd on a m o n it o r in g 17 c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t . 18 ta p e o r w h a t have y o u , has n o t been p r o v id e d as e v id e n c e a t 19 t h is p o in t. 20 MR. BELLA: Y our o b je c tio n O kay. T h a t do cum e nt has n o t — it, 22 she has t e s t i f i e d 23 ta p e re c o rd e d c o n v e r s a t io n . 25 MR. JACKSON: g a in e d t h i s fro m w h a t s h e 's r e c o r d in g d e v ic e p la c e d u p on th e She h a s n 't t e s t i f i e d s h e 's t e s t i f y i n g c o u n s e l. S h e 's t e s t i f y i n g 21 24 a g a in , re c o rd .) a b o u t a ta p e . or t h a t s h e 's m o n ito r e d S h e 's t e s t i f i e d a b o u t th e m o n ito r e d c o n v e r s a t io n s , W e ll, t h a t 's th e v e h i c le k n o w le d g e was t h a t t h e r e 's th a t th a t — not a b y w h ic h she a ta p e , a r e c o r d in g .

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486 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 THE COURT: 2 in o n ito ir in g i s w h a t I 3 s a y in g . Is B u t she l i s t e n e d MR. BELLA: 5 MR. JACKSON: 10 Y e s, t h a t ' s THE COURT: O kay. c o rre c t, I 'll Y o u r H o n o r. w ith d r a w th e o b j e c t i o n th e n . O b je c t io n i s w ith d r a w n . (B ench d is c u s s io n on th e 8 9 c o u n s e l? (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 6 7 t h i n k w h a t G overnm ent c o u n s e l i s th a t c o rre c t, 4 t o w h a t she was THE COURT: G e n tle m e n , it 's re c o rd .) te n o ' c l o c k , how lo n g a re yo u g o in g t o be w i t h th is I d o n ' t kno w , w itn e s s ? 11 MR. BELLA: T h is w i l l be a lo n g w it n e s s . Y o u r H o n o r. 12 THE COURT: Do y o u w a n t t o 13 14 w ant to ta k e it a t 1 0 :1 5 o r i s MR. BELLA: I th in k 15 she was in v o lv e d 16 d ru g s fro m t h i s 17 b re a k . in . buy, th is Maybe I ta k e a b re a k now o r do y o u t h e r e a c o n v e n ie n t p la c e ? is th e l a s t o f th e b u y s t h a t can have h e r i d e n t i f y t h a t m ig h t be a c o n v e n ie n t p la c e 18 THE COURT: J u s t l e t me know . 19 MR. BELLA: O kay. to (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 20 21 th e MR. BELLA: 22 These c o n v e r s a tio n s t h a t y o u h e a rd , 23 a ta p e 24 fro m a c t u a l l y h e a r in g o v e r a t r a n s m i t t e r o f th e 25 c o n v e r s a t io n s as th e y to o k p la c e ? r e c o r d in g t h a t y o u l i s t e n e d a re y o u t e s t i f y i n g fro m t o o r a re y o u t e s t i f y i n g

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 A 2 T h a t c o n v e r s a tio n w a s n 't r e c o r d e d . it 487 I t w a s n 't a r e c o r d e r , was a t r a n s m i t t e r , . 3 Q And w h a t does a t r a n s m i t t e r do? 4 A It b a s ic a lly — it 's 5 w e 'r e a b le t o l i s t e n 6 v e h ic le s . lik e a r a d io t o o v e r th e s ig n a l, r a d io s I g u ess t h a t t h a t we have i n 7 Q W hat i s th e p u rp o s e o f h a v in g a t r a n s m i t t e r ? 8 A I t 's th e e s s e n t i a l p u rp o s e o f h a v in g a t r a n s m i t t e r i s — 9 f o r th e — in 10 s u re t h a t , yo u know , h e 's n o t h a v in g a n y p r o b le m . 11 Q 12 th is c a s e , M r. P e t t i g r e w 's our s a f e t y t o make And d i d y o u h e a r Lee Edw ards g iv e a n y i n s t r u c t i o n s o v e r th e tr a n s m itte r ? 13 A Y es. 14 Q W hat was t h a t ? 15 A He a ske d M r. P e t t ig r e w if 16 in see i f 17 n e ig h b o rh o o d t h a t he m ig h t t h i n k was la w e n fo r c e m e n t. th e n e ig h b o rh o o d t o 18 Q W hat h a ppe ned a f t e r 19 A M r. P e t t ig r e w he w o u ld go o u t and ha ve a lo o k he c o u ld d e t e c t anyone i n th a t? s u b s e q u e n tly e x it e d 20 fe m a le . 21 p a s s e s th r o u g h th e n e ig h b o rh o o d . th e They e n te r e d h i s v e h i c l e ; r e s id e n c e w i t h s p e c ific a lly , 23 th e b u t 10 t o a th e y made a c o u p le I th in k — « 22 th e I c a n 't r e c a ll . 15 m in u te s l a t e r th e y r e - e n t e r e d r e s id e n c e a t 460 T a f t P la c e . 24 Q And w h a t was th e n e x t t h i n g y o u o b s e rv e d ? 25 A The n e x t t h i n g we o b s e rv e d was M r. P e t t ig r e w le a v in g th e

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K. Q A f t © r M r. P 0 t t ig r 0 w l0 ft th© r c s id a n c c and h©ad©d b a ck to w a rd M © r r i l l v i l l © , w h a t happened th e n ? 3 4 A th e m o te l room and I o b ta in e d fro m h im tw o We m et h im i n p a c k e ts t h a t he had been i n s t r u c t e d 5 6 Q W hat d i d y o u do w i t h 7 A I m a in ta in e d c u s to d y o f th e m , th o s e tw o p a c k e ts ? 9 MR. BELLA; If 10 THE COURT: You may. 11 MR. BELLA: r e tu r n e d t o Q S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , 14 if A 16 yo u can i d e n t i f y th a t, p le a s e ? one o f th e p a c k e ts t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r . Y e s, t h i s is P e t t ig r e w on O c to b e r 1 0 . Q And d i d yo u s e a l th e p a c k e t i n 18 A Y e s, 19 Q D id does y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t ? 20 A Y es, 21 Q And a ls o t h a t bag? I d id . it does. I ask y o u t o exa m ine w h a t 's been m arked as G o ve rnm ent E x h i b i t 69 and a sk yo u t o 22 A Y e s, th is is Q id e n tify th a t. p le a s e ? th e p a c k e t t h a t I o b ta in e d fro m M r. P e t t ig r e w on O c to b e r 1 0 . 24 Y o u r H on or? as G o ve rnm ent E x h i b i t 68 and a s k 17 25 and I hand yo u w h a t 's been m arked f o r p u rp o s e s o f i d e n t i f i c a t i o n 23 th e o f f i c e I may a p p ro a c h th e w it n e s s , 13 15 t o p u rc h a s e . s e a le d th e m . 8 12 488 DIRECT r0 s id 6 n c e a n d / you knoW/ h © a d in g b a ck to w a rd M © r r i l l v i l l 0 . 1 2 PERTUSO - . And d i d y o u s e a l th e p a c k e t i n t h a t bag?

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K. 1 A 2 Q 3 A Y e s, 489 DIRECT I d id . And does y o u r s e a l re m a in i n t a c t ? Y e s, 4 5 PERTUSO - it does. MR. BELLA: Y our H o n o r, s u b je c t m a tte r w i t h th is a b o u t to w i t n e s s 's tu rn THE COURT: th e te s t im o n y o f t h i s 7 be a le n g t h y — 8 MR. BELLA: I b e lie v e 9 THE COURT: Why d o n 't we ta k e o u r b re a k it w ill t o a new t e s t im o n y . 6 10 Is I 'm w itn e s s g o in g t o be. r ig h t now, c o u n s e l. 11 MR. BELLA: A ll 12 THE COURT: L a d ie s and g e n tle m e n , i t ' s R a th e r th a n t o Thank y o u . f i v e m in u te s 13 a fte r 14 th e m id d le o f a d i f f e r e n t a r e a , w e ' l l ta k e o u r b re a k r i g h t 15 now. 16 te n . r ig h t. go on and b re a k th e te s t im o n y i n Remember th e a d m o n itio n , la d ie s and g e n tle m e n , th a t 17 th e C o u rt has g iv e n t o yo u a t e v e r y b r e a k ; do n o t d is c u s s 18 th is 19 it 20 fo rm o r e x p re s s a n y o p in io n 21 fin a lly 22 M a rs h a l u p s t a i r s . case among y o u r s e lv e s , w i t h y o u o r i n y o u r p re s e n c e . s u b m itte d t o y o u . 23 It is y o u r d u ty on t h i s case W ith t h a t , u n til n o t to i t is y o u may f o l l o w th e ' (The j u r y w ere e s c o r te d fro m th e c o u r tr o o m , and th e f o l l o w i n g p r o c e e d in g s w e re h a d , r e p o r t e d as f o l l o w s : ) 24 25 do n o t p e r m it anyone t o d is c u s s THE COURT: You may be s e a te d . A n y th in g c o u n s e l w a n t

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490 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 t o a d d re s s th e C o u rt a b o u t b e fo r e we ta k e o u r m id m o rn in g 2 re c e s s ? 3 MR. TRUITT; N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. 4 MR. MCGRATH: 5 THE COURT: N o th in g . Why d o n 't yo u g e t a cup o f c o f f e e , w e ' l l ta k e a fe w m in u te 6 re c e s s . (T h e re was a re c e s s t a k e n . ) 7 THE COURT: 8 a b o u t b e fo r e 9 I A n y th in g c o u n s e l w is h t o a d d re s s th e C o u r t c a l l th e j u r y down? 10 MR. TR U ITT: 11 MR. McGRATH; N o th in g , Y o u r H o n o r. 12 MR. JACKSON: No, Y o u r H o n o r. 13 MR. BELLA: Np, Y o u r H o n o r. 14 THE COURT: C a ll th e j u r y . 15 M is s P e r tu s o , if y o u w is h , y o u can ta k e th e s ta n d a g a in . 16 (The j u r y w ere e s c o r te d i n t o and th e t r i a l was resum ed i n r e p o r t e d as f o l l o w s ; ) 17 18 19 THE COURT; 20 M r. B e l l a , th e c o u r tr o o m , open c o u r t , You may be s e a te d . y o u may c o n tin u e w i t h y o u r d i r e c t e x a m in a tio n . 21 MR. BELLA; 22 23 No, Y o u r H o n o r. Q Thank y o u . Y o u r H o n o r. S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , 24 in te r c e p tio n 25 in v e s tig a tio n , th e r e was a T i t l e o r d e r t h a t was e n te r e d w i t h is th a t c o rre c t? III w ir e re g a rd to th is

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 A Y e s, 2 Q And an e x te n s io n o f t h a t o r d e r , 3 A T h a t 's 4 Q And w h a t w ere y o u r a c t i v i t i e s 5 it 491 is . is th a t r ig h t? c o rre c t. in te r c e p tio n w ith re g a r d t o th e w ir e o rd e r? 6 A I p r e p a re d th e a f f i d a v i t i n s u p p o r t o f th e o r d e r . 7 Q D id yo u have o c c a s io n a f t e r t h a t o r d e r was e n te r e d and 8 c o n v e r s a tio n s w ere m o n ito r e d t o 9 th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n s and t o exa m ine th e d a ta and i n f o r m a t i o n 10 as i t 1 1 o rd e r? lis te n came b a ck as a r e s u l t o f t h a t w ir e 12 A I 13 Q Was an i n d i v i d u a l b y th e name o f L i t t l e 14 to lis te n e d th e — a n y o f in te r c e p tio n t o many o f th e c o n v e r s a t io n s , n o t a l l o f th e m . James i n t e r c e p t e d on th o s e c o n v e r s a tio n s ? 15 A Y e s , on num erous o c c a s io n s . 16 Q In 17 th e e a r l y s ta g e s o f th e i n v e s t i g a t i o n , had yo u i d e n t i f i e d w h a t 18 A 19 Q 20 L ittle Jam es' t r u e d id y o u know o r l a s t name was? N o. i n t i m a t e l y w e re y o u a b le t o i d e n t i f y w hat h is l a s t name was? 21 A Y e s, 22 Q And how do y o u now know 23 A As James D a v is . 24 Q 25 A I w as. L ittle James? And was t h e r e a n y o t h e r name t h a t he was known by? James J e f f e r i e s .

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492 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 Q DiTciwincf y o u r a t t e n t i o n t o a d i f f e r e n t s u b je c t now, and 2 d r a w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n b a ck t o th e d a y o f th e s e a rc h , 3 O c to b e r 1 1 , 4 460 T a f t P la c e a t th e tim e o f th e s e a rc h and o b s e rv e d some 5 e v id e n c e s e iz e d fro m M r. E d w a rd s, 1 9 9 0 , yo u in d ic a t e d t h a t y o u w ere p r e s e n t a t t h a t 's is th a t r ig h t? 6 A Y e s, c o rre c t. 7 Q D id y o u have a n y f u r t h e r c o n t a c t w i t h M r. E dw ards t h a t day? 8 A Y e s, 9 Q And c o u ld yo u t e l l us w h a t t h a t was? 10 A Y e s. I d id . M r. E dw ards was t r a n s p o r t e d b a ck t o 11 b u ild in g 12 i n i t i a l h e a r in g , 13 a n o th e r s p e c ia l a g e n t o f th e F B I, James K la v e r . 14 Q A Q and he was in t e r v ie w e d b y m y s e lf and i n t e r v i e w i n g M r. E d w a rd s , d id y o u u n d e r ta k e a n y Y e s, we d i d . We a d v is e d h im o f h i s r ig h ts And when yo u sa y y o u a d v is e d h im o f h i s t e l l u s e x a c t l y w h a t th o s e 19 20 p e n d in g h i s as th e y a p p e a r on a fo rm t h a t we r o u t i n e l y u t i l i z e . 17 18 And b e fo r e th e U n ite d S ta te s M a r s h a l's O f f i c e v e ry p ro c e d u re s ? 15 16 to th is A I have one o f th o s e r ig h ts r ig h ts , can y o u a re ? fo rm s h e re w i t h me. W ould y o u l i k e me to — 21 22 Q W ould y o u t e l l us e x a c t l y w h a t r i g h t s 23 A We a d v is e d M r. Edw ards t h a t b e fo r e we a s k e d h im any 24 q u e s t io n s , he m u st u n d e r s ta n d h i s 25 he had th e r ig h t to re m a in s i l e n t . y o u a d v is e d h im o f? r ig h ts . We t o l d We t o l d h im t h a t h im t h a t

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K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 493 1 a n y t h in g t h a t he m ig h t sa y c o u ld be use d a g a in s t h im i n 2 C o u rt. 3 We t o l d h im t h a t he had th e r ig h t to ta lk to an 4 a t t o r n e y f o r a d v ic e b e fo r e we a ske d h im a n y q u e s t io n s , 5 a ls o t h a t he had a r i g h t t o have an a t t o r n e y p r e s e n t w i t h 6 h im as we we q u e s t io n in g h im . 7 c o u l d n 't a f f o r d 8 a p p o in te d . 9 And we t o l d an a t t o r n e y , h im t h a t i f We t o l d h im t h a t i f he he c o u ld have an a t t o r n e y he d e c id e d t o a n sw e r q u e s t io n s 10 w i t h o u t an a t t o r n e y , 11 a n s w e rin g q u e s tio n s a t any tim e and he w o u ld have th e 12 to 13 a tto rn e y . 14 Q he w o u ld have th e A f t e r a d v is in g M r. Edw ards o f th o s e r i g h t s , A Y e s, he d i d . 17 Q And d id he i n d ic a t e 18 A He d i d . r ig h t an he u n d e r s to o d th o s e He in d ic a t e d s ig n e d th e r ig h ts ? t h a t he u n d e r s to o d , fo rm i n d i c a t i n g and i n t h a t he w a iv e d h i s Q And d i d he p ro c e e d t o — w h a t happened th e n ? 21 A Then we p ro c e e d e d t o q u e s t io n h im . 22 Q And he a g re e d t o 23 A Y e s , he d i d . 24 Q W ould y o u t e l l us w h a t M r. Edw ards i n d ic a t e d i n t e r v ie w ? d id he i n d i c a t e r ig h ts ? 20 25 to s to p , 16 19 r ig h t to s to p a n s w e rin g a t a n y tim e u n t i l he t a l k e d w h e th e r he u n d e r s to o d th o s e 15 and f a c t he r ig h ts . t a l'k w i t h you? in th a t

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494 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 A We t a lk e d a b o u t h is d ru g d i s t r i b u t i o n a c tiv itie s . He 2 i n d ic a t e d t h a t he had been d e a lin g h e r o in and c o c a in e o f f 3 and on f o r a p p r o x im a te ly e i g h t y e a r s , 4 He named f o r us th e p e o p le t h a t he was r e c e i v i n g d ru g s 5 fr o m . 6 Q T h a t w o u ld be h i s 7 A H is s o u rc e s o f s u p p ly ; th e p a s t e i g h t y e a r s . s o u rc e s o f s u p p ly ? 8 M a tth e w s . 9 o f s u p p ly f o r c o c a in e . i n c l u d i n g an i n d i v i d u a l named R o b e rt He in d ic a t e d t h a t R o b e rt M a tth e w s was h i s s o u rc e He named an i n d i v i d u a l t o us t h a t he s a id was known t o 10 11 h im as M oose. 12 d i d n ' t know M o o s e 's t r u e 13 o r is 14 t h a t was th e t r u e name. it And when I a ske d h im — he in d ic a t e d name. And I a s k e d h im c o u ld i t Raymond D a v is and he re s p o n d e d t h a t i t Raymond D a v is , he t o l d 15 w as, be th a t us he had known f o r 16 a p p r o x im a t e ly a y e a r ; 17 an i n d i v i d u a l named W i l l i e 18 p r o v id e d money t o W i l l i e 19 Raymond D a v is on h i s b e h a l f . t h a t he had m et Raymond D a v is th r o u g h W ord. That i n i t i a l l y Word t o p u rc h a s e h e r o in 20 0 On whose b e h a lf ? 21 A On M r. E d w a rd s ' b e h a l f . 22 Q O th e r th a n R o b e rt. M a tth e w s and Raymond D a v is — w ith t h a t he he had fro m fir s t of 23 a ll, r e g a r d t o Raymond D a v is , d id M r. E dw ards i n d i c a t e 24 w h a t ty p e s o f d ru g s he w o u ld p u rc h a s e fro m Raymond D a v is 25 and i n w h a t q u a n t it ie s ?

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495 K. PERTUSO - DIRECT 1 B la c k t a r h e r o in . 2 s m a ll q u a n t i t i e s 3 in d ic a t e d 4 b la c k h e r o in And he s a id i n i t i a l l y fro m h im . A t th e tim e o f h i s a rre s t, he t h a t he had been p u r c h a s in g ounce q u a n t i t i e s of fro m M r. D a v is a p p r o x im a te ly e v e r y w ee k. He a ls o s a id t h a t he had t r a v e l e d 5 he was p u r c h a s in g t o C h ic a g o on tw o 6 o c c a s io n s h im s e lf t o p ic k up h e r o in 7 i n d ic a t e d t h a t M r. D a v is had d e liv e r e d h e r o in t o 8 he a ls o 9 Edw ards t o C h ic a g o on s e v e r a l o c c a s io n s t o p u rc h a s e h e r o in i n d ic a t e d fro m M r. D a v is . t h a t he had s e n t h i s h im . fro m M r. D a v is . 1 1 D id he i n d i c a t e w h a t he was p a y in g p e r ounce o f b la c k 12 h e r o in ? 13 I 14 ounce. 15 O th e r th a n R o b e rt M a tth e w s and Raymond D a v is , d i d M r. 16 E dw ards t a l k 17 u tiliz e d 18 He i d e n t i f i e d 19 goes a ls o b y th e name o f C uz. 20. p u rc h a s e d h e r o in 21 a ls o 22 W ord. ta r he s a id t h a t a t th e tim e he was p a y in g $ 7 ,0 0 0 p e r to a b o u t any o t h e r s o u rc e s o f s u p p ly t h a t he s to c k h i s i n d ic a t e d d ru g t r a f f i c k i n g o r g a n iz a t io n ? an i n d i v i d u a l known as R o b e rt B u r r e l l who He s a id t h a t he had fro m M r. B u r r e l l o f f and o n . He I b e lie v e t h a t he had m et M r. B u r r e l l th r o u g h W i l l i e • And th e n he i d e n t i f i e d 23 And b r o t h e r J im m ie 10 b e lie v e He 24 A b i, and he i n d ic a t e d 25 w h it e h e r o in . an i n d i v i d u a l known t o h im as t h a t A b i was h i s s o u rc e o f s u p p ly f o r He s a id t h a t he had known h im f o r

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K. PERTUSO - 496 DIRECT 1 a p p r o x iin a t f ily the©© y © a rs and t h a t h© had b©©n in tr o d u c © d 2 t o h im b y an i n d i v i d u a l named M ik e , and h© d id n o t know h i s 3 l a s t name b u t h© had m et M ike th r o u g h an i n d i v i d u a l named 4 E d d ie P a s k e l. 5 He s a id t h a t d u r in g th e c o u rs e o f t h i s 6 t h a t he had been d e a lin g d r u g s , he was d o in g i t 7 and t h a t a t th e tim e t h a t he m et A b i he h a d n 't been d e a lin g 8 ]^0j-Q in f o r a w h ile b u t t h a t A b i had t h i s 9 was s o m e th in g new and d i f f e r e n t and he began d e a lin g h e r o in Q w h it e h e r o in and i t A b i. F o r p u rp o s e s o f c o n v e n ie n c e w o u ld y o u s p e l l t h a t A -B -B -E -A ? 12 13 A T h a t 's 14 Q Or a t l e a s t t h a t ' s 15 A P h o n e t i c a ll y , yes. 16 Q Is f u l l name, c o rre c t. t h a t A b i 's . how y o u s p e l l i t is w h e th e r t h a t ' s t h a t y o u r u n d e r s ta n d in g , or does he have a n o th e r name? 17 18 A H is t r u e 19 Q Y e s, 20. A N o, h i s 21 Q Thank y o u . M r. E dw ards t o l d tr a ffic k in g o r g a n iz a t io n on O c to b e r 1 1 , 22 23 o f f and on a g a in , b e in g s u p p lie d b y A b i. 10 11 e ig h t y e a rs '■ is name? t h a t h is tru e fu ll name, A b i? name i s A b io d u n . T h a t 's A - B - I- O - D - U - N . y o u th e s e fa c ts a b o u t h is d ru g 1 9 9 0 , when y o u m et w i t h him ? 24 A 25 Q Y e s, he d i d . Lee E d w a rd s , who y o u m et w i t h h e re on O c to b e r 1 1 , 1 9 9 0 , he

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K. 1 r e la y e d t h i s 2 c o u rtro o m to d a y ? 3 A Y e s, I d o . 4 Q I w onder i f 5 6 A 497 CROSS DURR in f o r m a t io n t o y o u ; do you see h im i n th e yo u w o u ld p o i n t o u t w here h e 's lo c a t e d and d e s c r ib e b r i e f l y w h a t h e 's 7 w e a rin g ? H e 's s e a te d a t th e t a b le w e a rin g a brow n s u i t , w h it e s h ir t, tie . 8 MR. BELLA; 9 Y o u r H o n o r, w o u ld th e w itn e s s has i d e n t i f i e d 10 THE COURT: 11 MR. JACKSON; 12 THE COURT; 13 MR. BELLA: 14 n o t h in g THE COURT; 16 MR. TRUITT; 17 THE COURT; r e f l e c t th e Lee A ndrew E d w a rd s . A ny o b je c t io n ? No o b j e c t i o n . ’ So i n d ic a t e d . Thank y o u . S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s p , I have C ro s s . No q u e s t io n s . D a v is . 18 C ro s s Y our H o n o r. D u rr. CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR. MCGRATH; . 19 Q th e d e fe n d a n t, re c o rd fu rth e r. 15 20 PERTUSO - S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , y o u — y o u 'r e 21 means y o u 'r e more o r le s s 22 c o o r d in a t in g 23 c o rre c t? th e 24 A T h a t 's 25 Q The FB I came i n t o • th e case a g e n t w h ic h th e a g e n t i n j. n v e s t i g a t io n c h a rg e o f f o r th e F B I, is th a t . c o rre c t. th is in v e s tig a tio n a f t e r an e x t e n s iv e

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 p e r io d o f t im e , 2 D ru g E n fo rc e m e n t A d m i n is t r a t i o n , 3 A in v e s tig a tio n 5 in v e s tig a tio n . Q 7 is o r th e th a t c o rre c t? a t th e tim e t h a t we e n te r e d o r opened o u r And y o u r c o o r d in a t io n was th r o u g h V in c e B a lb o , a g e n t o f th e DEA, i s s p e c ia l th a t c o rre c t? 8 A T h a t 's 9 Q H a v in g c o o r d in a te d w i t h c o rre c t. them and jo in e d in th e m , y o u 10 p r o v id e d a s s e ts w h ic h in c lu d e d m anpow er, e q u ip m e n t, m oney, 11 w h a te v e r? 12 A The a rra n g e m e n t was t h a t we fo rm e d a ta s k 13 FB I was th e le a d a g e n c y i n 14 c o n n e c tio n w i t h 15 In d ia n a p o lis 16 me. 17 Q 18 w o r in v o lv e m e n t b y th e d e p a rtm e n t — The D rug E n fo rc e m e n t A d m i n is t r a t i o n had an open 4 6 498 A 20 Q The t h a t i n v e s t i g a t i o n w o r k in g i n S ta te P o lic e — In d ia n a S ta te P o l i c e , And as th e case a g e n t f o r th e FBI th e n , T h a t 's case. th e D rug E n fo rc e m e n t A d m i n is t r a t i o n change o f th e w h o le 19 fo rc e and th e excuse a r g u a b ly y o u 'r e in th in g ? c o rre c t. The T i t l e III in te r c e p ts , th e r e was a p e r io d o f 60 d a y s , do 21 y o u ha ve an id e a o f how many t o t a l p e r t i n e n t i n t e r c e p t s 22 w e re made b y th e m o n ito r in g ? 23 A H u n d re d s . 24 Q I t 's 25 A I 'd c e r t a i n l y more th a n 8 0 0 , maybe s a y t h a t w o u ld be f a i r l y a c c u ra te . as much as a th o u s a n d ?

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499 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 Q And t h i s was — each o f th o s e 60 d a y s , 2 A T h e re w e re — 3 Q I mean e v e r y day th e r e w o u ld be —— th e r e w o u ld be in te r c e p ts , 4 is th a t c o rre c t? th e r e was m o n it o r in g e v e r y day? 5 A E v e ry d a y . 6 Q Now, th r o u g h th e — when th o s e ta p e s a re t r a n s f e r r e d 7 th e 8 In d ia n a p o lis 9 r e e l - t o - r e e l to d u p lic a te th e y a re s e n t on t o t o be t r a n s c r ib e d ? The r e e l - t o - r e e l ta p e s — A s e ts , th e o r i g i n a l ta p e s w e re n e v e r 10 to u c h e d a f t e r th e y w ere rem oved fro m th e e q u ip m e n t. 11 a re s t i l l s e a le d . 12 d u p lic a te r e e l - t o - r e e l and t h a t was th e w o rk c o p y , 13 w ill. 14 Q O kay. As th e y w ere b e in g r e c o r d e d , And I gu ess — w h a t w e n t down t o 16 A T h a t d u p lic a te 17 Q And when th e t r a n s c r i p t i o n s o f c o o r d in a t in g 18 - t h e r e was a if In d ia n a p o lis you to r e e l- to - r e e l. came b a c k , w e re y o u i n r e v ie w o f them t o c h a rg e see w h a t — how th e y came o u t and c h e c k in g them t o make s u re t h a t th e y w e re c o r r e c t A T h e re was an a g e n t a s s ig n e d t h a t s p e c i f i c ta s k . I d id n o t 22 r e v ie w ea ch ta p e and com pare th e ta p e t o 23 b u t th e a g e n t a s s ig n e d t o h a n d le t h a t ta s k d id do t h a t . 24 T h a t was — 25 be o r in c o r r e c t? 20 21 T h ey t r a n s c r ib e d ? 15 19 fro m Q S p e c ia l A g e n t R oth ? th e t r a n s c r i p t s ,

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 A Y e s. 2 Q And was he u n d e r y o u r d i r e c t i o n ? 3 A A c tu a lly n o t, be cause d u r in g th e p e r io d o f tim e t h a t t h a t 4 was — 5 m a t e r n i t y le a v e . 6 s u p e r v is o r a t th e t im e . 7 Q t h a t he was in v o lv e d i n 11 MR. McGRATH; 12 I have — Q And I 'm a — A 16 Q 18 You may. D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's g o in g to - p o i n t o u t one t h i n g E x h ib it 6, I beg y o u r Y e s. I t 's le t 's s e e , on O c to b e r 9 , And w o u ld th e t r a n s c r i p t s th is is is 1 9 9 0 , a t a p p r o x im a te ly 1 0 :2 0 p .m . f o r each o f th e c o n v e r s a t io n s be th a t c o rre c t? T h a t 's 20 Q And a 302 i s 21 A A 302 i s a re p o r t o f in v e s tig a tio n . 22 F D -3 0 2 . I t 's 23 p la c e d o n . I 'm In — a t r a n s c r i p t o f a c o n v e r s a t io n t h a t o c c u r r e d , c o v e re d b y a 3 0 2 , Q to yo u . can y o u i d e n t i f y w h a t t h a t is ? A 25 show T h a t 's D u rr 6? 19 24 I w ant to p a rd o n . Y o u r H o n o r. 14 17 o f our h e r w h a t m arked as D e fe n d a n t's E x h i b i t 6 . THE COURT; 15 I was on So he was u n d e r th e d i r e c t i o n May I a p p ro a c h . Y o u r H o n o r, 10 13 th a t a c t iv it y , Now, y o u w o u ld do a n y th in g t o g e t o u t o f w o rk , w o n 't y o u . 8 9 500 c o rre c t. w h a t, why d o n 't yo u e x p la in w h a t a 302 is ? j u s t th e g o in g t o — in y o u r r e p o r t, th e I t 's a fo rm n u m b e r, fo rm num ber t h a t th e re p o rt is 302 has a b ig open spa ce w h e re y o u f i l l and th e n a t th e b o tto m i t has who th e

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501 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 a g e n t, when i t 2 in v e s tig a tiv e 3 A T h a t 's 4 Q I 'm 5 6 was t r a n s c r ib e d and th e d a te o f th e w o rk , i s g o in g t o p o i n t o u t s o m e th in g yo u t o y o u , THE COURT: C o u n s e l, 8 THE COURT: 9 MR. MCGRATH: c o n c e r n in g — 11 e x h ib it is n o t in it Just — I 'm c l e a r i n g s o m e th in g u p . C o u n s e l, if e v id e n c e , y o u may n o t use i t MR. McGRATH:’ in to g o in g t o a sk h e r a q u e s t io n I 'll . th e e x h i b i t i s a t th is n o t in p o in t. o f f e r D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's E x h ib it 6 e v id e n c e . Y o u r H o n o r. THE COURT: Show i t 16 MR. BELLA: May we a p p ro a c h . Y o u r H onor? 17 THE COURT: You may. 19 e v id e n c e b e in g used? 15 18 — I u n d e r s ta n d . How i s THE COURT: 13 14 th is th is r i g h t now. MR. Mc Gr a t h : 12 c o rre c t? r ig h t. 7 10 th a t , to c o u n s e l. (B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e MR. BELLA: I t 's re c o rd .) my u n d e r s ta n d in g t h a t th e t r a n s c r i p t s 20 th e m s e lv e s w i l l n o t go i n t o e v id e n c e when th e 21 p la y e d . 22 THE COURT: 23 MR. McGRATH: 24 THE COURT: 25 MR. McGRATH: They a re n o t e v id e n c e , I c o u n s e l. u n d e r s ta n d . I gave a l i m i t i n g i n s t r u c t i o n I ta p e s a re u n d e r s ta n d . Y o u r to th a t. H o n o r. I ' l l p o in t

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502 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 o u t, th e re is 2 I 'll p o in t i t o n ly one t h i n g I w a n t t o ask h e r a b o u t. o u t and maybe - 3 THE COURT: 4 MR. MCGRATH: Maybe t o s tip u la te , I d o n 't know . R ig h t h e r e , O c to b e r 9 , 5 an i n v e s t i g a t i v e 6 j u s t w a n t t o p o i n t o u t one s m a ll t h i n g 7 d o n 't have — 8 o ffe r 9 tr a n s c r ip t i t s e l f . th e a c tiv ity . I 'll I t 's ju s t o ffe r a s m a ll, 1990. But i t ' s s m a ll t h i n g ; I out about th a t. th e 302 i n t o — I 'll We ju s t 3 0 2 , t h a t way we w o n 't have t o have th e MR. BELLA: 10 And A re th e r e g o in g t o be a s e r ie s o f th e s e o r 11 12 MR. MCGRATH: 13 MR. BELLA: 14 w ith it 15 say a b o u t i t 16 w ill 17 a g a in . No. The o n ly o n e . The o n ly o n e . co m in g i n . s in c e I d o n 't know how much t h i s w it n e s s she d i d n ' t p r e p a re th e MR. McGRATH: 19 MR. BELLA: 20 Y o u 'r e o f f e r i n g 21 g o in g t o q u e s t io n h e r a b o u t th e 23 MR. BELLA: 25 I th in k I have no p ro b le m w i t h th e t r a n s c r i p t s MR. McGRATH: can A lth o u g h I t e s t if y V e ry s m a ll t h i n g . W e ll, 22 it. 302. s a y t h a t I e x p e c t S p e c ia l A g e n t R o th w i l l 18 24 I d o n 't have a n y p ro b le m in e v id e n c e , th e a r e a . th e n y o u 'r e 302. Y e s. A ll r ig h t. I am n o t g o in g t o o b je c t to — THE COURT; W a it a m in u te . O b v io u s ly w e ' l l need a

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503 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 b e nch c o n fe re n c e th e n . 2 o ffe re d . MR. McGRATH: 3 4 THE COURT; D e fe n d a n t w ith d ra w s D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's E x h ib it 6. 8 10 MR. McGRATH: D ir e c t y o u r a t t e n t io n D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's THE COURT; 12 MR. McGRATH; I 'm is th is in d o cu m e n ts? 18 r e fr e s h in g 19 it 's g o in g t o o f f e r o n ly th e r e c o lle c tio n MR. McGRATH; S u re . n o t h in g e ls e . I t 's 21 THE COURT; 22 MR. TR U ITT: if re c o rd .) g e t a ro u n d i t a ll th e s e b y way o f she r e c a l l s w h a t 's on t h e r e . A ll th a t is not — it 's is th e I can s a y i t ' s o b je c t e d t o a d m is s ib ility . 24 t h a t h e 's n o t g o in g o b j e c t t o re p o rt. Judge, n o t th e t r a n s c r i p t . The r e p o r t w o u ld c o v e r t h a t , 23 MR. BELLA; 302 w h ic h i s G e n tle m e n , a r e n ' t th e s e h e a r s a y , You may be a b le t o its as C o u n s e l. THE COURT; 17 id e n tifie d e v id e n c e ? (B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e 16 25 302 t h a t i s E x h ib it 6. THE COURT; 15 20 th e C o u n s e l, D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's 14 to 6 and p o i n t o u t t o you tw o m a t t e r s . 11 13 I w ith d r a w th e o f f e r o f D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 6 9 6 has been 6 , Y o u r H o n o r. 5 7 D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's c o u n s e l. a d m is s ib le u n le s s som ebody M r. B e lla has i n d ic a t e d it. W e ll, my an sw er i s ' t h a t S p e c ia l A g e n t R o th

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504 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 is 2 an yw ay. 3 g o in g t o t o s t if y ? And I I p r o b a b ly can ask h im a b o u t i t suppose yo u can — THE COURT; M r. T r u i t t , 4 to o b je c t. 5 ju s tic e , 6 can s t a r t o b e y in g th e 7 tim e t o The C o u rt can on i t s 9 MR. TR U ITT; 10 MR. BELLA; 11 MR. TR U ITT; 12 MR. BELLA; I T h a t'S I o th e r w is e y o u r u le s fro m a p h i lo s o p h i c a l d is c u s s io n . suppose my a t t i t u d e Or somebody e ls e is th a t — f o r a l a t e r d a te , Y o u 'r e an a t t o r n e y , y o u 'r e n o t in but la w s c h o o l, p r o f e s s o r . MR. McGRATH; W hat I 'm 16 w h ic h a re h e rs and — 17 THE COURT; d o in g i s g o in g t o do n e x t w i t h C o u n s e l, I 'm th e T i t l e c a n 't th e m e r e ly s e t t i n g III up a p p lic a tio n same t h i n g be a c h ie v e d b y s a y in g — 19 MR. McGRATH; 20 THE COURT; 22 of suppose my — w h a t I 'm 21 in te r e s ts r u le s and d is o b e y in g th e 15 18 th e tim e and we w o n 't have a n y th in g b u t c h a o s . MR. BELLA; 14 own i n y o u know , and t o keep a good r e c o r d , 8 13 I d o n 't know t h a t som ebody has Then r e f r e s h The w h o le t h i n g is it 's a s e tu p . — do y o u know w h a t t h i s 302 s a id ? r e c o lle c tio n . MR. McGRATH: B u t th e p o i n t i s th e re 23 in c o n s is t e n c y t h a t I w a n t t o p o i n t o u t i n 24 a g e n t. 25 on a n y o f th e — a l l o f th e s e t r a n s c r i p t s , I t 's N o. r e s o lv e d v e r y s im p ly . I t 's is an it, to th e ca se th e o n ly m is ta k e th e w h o le 893 o f

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 th e m , th is is th e o n ly m is ta k e . MR. BELLA: 2 W e ll, I d o n 't know t h a t y o u can e s t a b l i s h t h a t e i t h e r because th e r e may be e v id e n c e — 3 4 MR. McGRATH: I 'll 5 th r o u g h e v e r y s i n g le 6 th a t I fo u n d . be g la d t o go th r o u g h th e m . one o f th e m , I s ta rte d S p e c ia l A g e n t R o th 's to 8 it 's 9 can be q u e s tio n e d a b o u t t h a t , THE COURT: 10 th e p a r t i e s 11 th e o n ly m is ta k e sa y I — my a t t i t u d e 3 0 2 , h e 's g o in g t o i 13 MR. McGRATH; t e s t if y , In th e bo d y i t th e d a te o f i n v e s t i g a t i o n MR. BELLA; 16 MR. McGRATH: 17 THE COURT: 18 MR. McGRATH: 19 w h o le case i s 20 I 'll is it s a y s O c to b e r 1 0 . T h e re i s no o t h e r m is ta k e s . Why d o n 't yo u g u ys w r i t e I 'll w ith d r a w it. now ; i t I t 's it — o u t. I m ean, th e was j u s t a s e tu p t h i n g . MR. McGRATH; You d i d p r e p a re th e a f f i d a v i t s 25 Y es, s ir . can sa ys O c to b e r 9 and th e n (E nd o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) a p p lic a tio n , you — a — w ith d r a w th e s u b m is s io n o f d e fe n d a n t D u r r 's 24 he I — gone on t h i s 21 Q th a t — T h a t on one 302 th e r e 15 22 is s tip u la te ? MR. BELLA: th e — is I know b y way o f a s t i p u l a t i o n 12 14 th is I w ent E v e ry o n e . MR. BELLA: 7 23 505 is th a t c o rre c t? . f o r th e T i t l e III E x h ib it 6.

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506 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 Q And th e o r i g i n a l a p p l i c a t i o n was made on A u g u s t 14 o f 1990? 2 A I b e lie v e 3 Q Your — 4 A 5 Q Y o u r a f f i d a v i t was 44 pages lo n g ? 6 A I d o n 't r e c a l l it was A u g u s t 1 4 . We i n i t i a t e d c o v e ra g e on th e 1 6 th . how many. 7 MR. MCGRATH: 8 THE COURT: 9 MR. McGRATH: 10 Q 11 I 'll 12 THE COURT: th is MR. McGRATH: 15 id e n tific a tio n th a t — C o u n s e l, m a rk e d , b u t was I d o n 't have i t b e f o r e , b e ca u se I have Y e s, I have u se d t h i s 17 A 18 Q 19 A 20 Q I 21 A It was e n te r e d on th e 1 4 th by Judge M oody. 22 Q Y o u 'r e lo o k in g a t th e o r d e r ? 25 1. Your H o n o r. Q 24 a D u rr b e fo re . 16 23 as E x h i b i t 1 and ask y o u i f shown t o som ebody 14 H onor? You may. show y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's 13 I f I maya p p ro a c h , Y o u r Does t h a t r e f r e s h y o u r memory t h a t i t was 44pa ges lo n g ? Y e s. You made t h a t a f f i d a v i t on th e 1 3 th o f A u g u s t? 1 4 th . th in k if y o u lo o k a t th e s ig n a t u r e THE COURT; C o u n s e l, th e n t h i s — e x h ib it 's e v id e n c e . MR. McGRATH: I u n d e r s ta n d . Y o u r H o n o r. n o t in .

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507 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 Q To r e f r e s h y o u r memory. 2 A 1 4 th . 3 Q I 'm c o rre c te d . And i n THE COURT; 4 r ig h t? th a t a p p lic a tio n or — Why d o n 't yo u w ith d r a w th e e x h i b i t , c o u n s e l, u n le s s you have t o have — 5 6 MR. MCGRATH; 7 THE COURT; 8 u n til 9 back to h e r. MR. MCGRATH; 11 THE COURT; te s t if y in g 12 I have no f u r t h e r q u e s t io n s . Y o u r H o n o r. U n le s s i t ' s fo r r e fr e s h in g she e x h a u s ts h e r memory, c o u n s e l, 10 A ll r ig h t, r e c o lle c tio n th e n y o u g iv e it Y o u r H o n o r. O th e rw is e we ru n i n t o a p ro b le m w i t h h e r fro m th e e x h i b i t . MR. MCGRATH; 13 14 Oh, y o u 'r e Q Y o u r a f f i d a v i t as r e q u ir e d in 15 r e q u ir e m e n ts o f th e T i t l e 16 p r e s e n t a t io n o f th e b a c k g ro u n d in f o r m a t io n o f th e c h a r a c t e r 17 o f th e 18 A 19 i n v e s t i g a t i o n up t o The a f f i d a v i t III o r d e r t o m eet th e a p p lic a tio n th a t p o in t, o b t a in th e o r d e r . h a p h a z a rd , Q Was i t 21 A It i n d i f f e r e n t o r was i t 22 Q And how many p e o p le w ere t a r g e t e d w a s n 't h a p h a z a rd o r i n d i f f e r e n t , you r e c a ll? 24 A The names — 25 Q R ig h t? a th o r o u g h th a t c o rre c t? r e p r e s e n ts th e p r o b a b le cau se r e q u ir e d t o 20 23 is is in te r c e p te e s , i s th a t it th o ro u g h ? was th o r o u g h . in y o u r a p p lic a tio n if

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508 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 A I 2 Q If b e lie v e in itia lly a p p r o x im a te ly t w e lv e . I m ig h t r e f r e s h y o u r memory, w o u ld th e num ber s ix t e e n — 3 does t h a t r e f r e s h y o u r memory t h a t th e r e w e re s ix t e e n names 4 in th e t a r g e t s ? 5 A T h a t 's p o s s ib le . 6 Q And t h e r e w e re an a d d i t i o n a l seve n names p r o v id e d t h a t w e re 7 n o t lis te d 8 S -2 , 9 A in th e t a r g e t s b y y o u r — a s o u rc e i d e n t i f i e d i s n ' t th a t c o rre c t? A d d itio n a l in d iv id u a ls id e n tifie d b y a s o u rc e t h a t w e re n o t named in t e r c e p t e e s ? 10 11 Q T h a t 's 12 A T h a t 's p o s s ib le . 13 Q O kay. c o rre c t? 14 If 15 THE COURT: 16 MR. MCGRATH; 17 as Q I may I a p p ro a c h a g a in , Y o u r H onor? You may. Once a g a in I ' l l show y o u w h a t 's been m arked f o r 18 id e n tific a tio n 19 a tte n tio n 20 o f names as a d d i t i o n a l ? 21 A I b e lie v e 22 Q R ig h t. as D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's t o page 1 8 , g o in g t o 25 a llo w ta lk to th e th e re is C o u n s e l, p le a s e do n o t w h is p e r . th e w it n e s s , it lis tin g in itia lly . T h e re a re e i g h t names t h e r e — 24 D ir e c t y o u r th e to p o f th e page w i t h she was an in t e r c e p t e e THE COURT: 23 E x h ib it 1. seven. If has t o be o u t lo u d . c o u n s e l t o w h is p e r b e tw e e n th e m s e lv e s o f f th e y o u 'r e I re c o rd .

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 b u t b e tw e e n th e 2 lo u d . 3 4 w itn e s s i n has t o be o u t MR. MCGRATH: Q H a v in g r e fr e s h e d y o u r r e c o l l e c t i o n 5 a ff id a v it, 6 a d d i t i o n a l nam es, p a r tic u la r ly A In a d d itio n 8 Q And th e a p p l i c a t i o n 9 up t o 10 to is 7 A th e p o i n t , 12 Q 13 A h is to r y 14 A 15 Q 16 S -3 , i s T h a t 's And i t r o u g h ly o f up t o a f f id a v it , c o n c e r n in g th e c o rre c t. 18 Q O ka y. I f I — a fte r 19 n e c e s s a ry f o r you to 20 T itle Q 23 A 24 Q in c lu d e s a h i s t o r y o f th e in v e s tig a tio n th e p o i n t o f th e i s n ' t th a t c o rre c t? s o u rc e s d e s ig n a te d S -1 , in c lu d e s a summary o f th e T h a t 's T h a t 's c o rre c t. c o rre c t. A 22 th a t c o rre c t? th a t c o rre c t? 17 A th e r e a re seve n o f th e p e r t i n e n t i n f o r m a t i o n . p r o v id e d 21 t o page 1 8 , And in c lu d e s t h r e e u n i d e n t i f i e d S -2 , b y r e v ie w o f th e th e named i n t e r c e p t e e s , t h a t ' s a p p l i c a t i o n and 11 25 open c o u r t i t 509 III o rd e r, in f o r m a t io n t h a t th e y in v e s tig a tio n ? 30d a ys of in te r c e p ts , it was renew o r seek an e x t e n s io n o f th e is th a t c o rre c t? c o rre c t. And a se co n d a f f i d a v i t was p r e p a r e d , was i t n o t? Y e s. Now, th e se co n d a f f i d a v i t , lo n g ? if yo u r e c a l l was t h a t 17 pages

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510 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 If 2 THE COURT: 3 MR. McGr a t h : 4 Q 5 I 'll I may a g a in , Y o u r H onor? hand yo u w h a t 's m arked f o r D u r r 's 6 A Y e s. 7 Q And i n t h a t seco nd a p p l i c a t i o n , s ix 9 a p p lic a tio n , A 11 is th e o r i g i n a l th a t c o rre c t? I d o n 't r e c a l l th e s p e c i f i c n u m b e r, b u t t h e r e w e re a d d i t i o n a l s u b je c t s , y e s . MR. MCGRATH: 13 THE COURT: 14 MR. MCGRATH: Q If y o u r a tte n tio n 17 r e c o lle c tio n 18 named? You may. t o page 5, 6 and 7 . t h a t th e r e was 19 A Y e s. 20 Q And a g a in t h e r e was 21 I a g a in may a p p ro a c h ? I hand y o u a g a in th e D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's 16 22 as D e fe n d a n t th e r e w ere an a d d i t i o n a l s u b j e c t s ' names t h a t w ere n o t named i n 12 15 id e n tific a tio n E x h i b i t 2? 8 10 You may. a E x h i b i t 2 and d i r e c t Does t h a t r e f r e s h your an a d d i t i o n a l s i x s u b je c t s summary o f th e i n v e s t i g a t i o n as i t had p r o g r e s s e d fro m th e o r i g i n a l a p p l i c a t i o n ? A N o t th e e n t i r e i n v e s t i g a t i o n , 23 th e in itia l 24 d u r in g th e c o u rs e o f th e 25 T h a t 's th e b u tr e ly in g a f f i d a v i t and p r i m a r i l y in f o r m a t io n fir s t and i n c o r p o r a t i n g in f o r m a t i o n o b ta in e d 30 d a ys o f i n t e r c e p t i o n . t h a t c o m p ris e d t h a t e x t e n s io n

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511 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 2 a f f id a v it . Q 3 And a g a in as i n th e o r i g i n a l a f f i d a v i t , in A Y e s. 5 Q I 'm g o in g t o — 6 If 7 — hand y o u w h a t 's 8 E x h i b i t 4 , b e in g a l i s t 9 a sk yo u t o I may a p p ro a c h ? THE COURT: 11 MR. MCGRATH: Y o u r H o n o r, o f th e G o v e rn m e n t's w it n e s s e s . Yes. W e ll, th e y w ere p r e s e n te d THE COURT: 14 MR. MCGRATH: 17 as D e fe n d a n t D u r r 's it I o v e r? T h a t was in t r o d u c e d b e f o r e , w a s n 't i t ? 13 16 id e n tifie d re a d t h a t o r j u s t lo o k 10 15 th o r o u g h y o u r w o rk? 4 12 y o u w ere th e y w e r e n 't in t r o d u c e d , t o A g e n t B a lb o b e f o r e . B u t n o t a c c e p te d i n t o N ot in to e v id e n c e , — j u s t f o r h im t o r e v ie w th e l i s t . Q S o u rc e s S -1 , S -2 and S -3 , a re th e y l i s t e d G o v e rn m e n t's l i s t BELLA: o f w itn e s s e s ? 18 MR. 19 THE COURT: You may. 20 May we a p p ro a c h . Y o u r H onor? (B en ch d is c u s s io n on th e 21 MR. BELLA: May I ask w h a t 's 22 w h e re a re we g o in g w i t h 23 MR. McGRATH: 24 up — 25 I 'm th e g o in g on th e I 'm r e c o r d a ls o re c o rd .) th e p u rp o s e o f t h i s , it? g o in g t o — w e l l , I 'v e a lr e a d y s e t shows t h a t W a lte r P e t t ig r e w — when th e o t h e r p e o p le t e s t i f y , i s S -1 . I 'm g o in g to

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR 1 show t h a t th e y w ere S -2 and S -3 . 2 MR. BELLA: 3 MR. McGRATH: 4 to 5 6 id e n tify Why? t h e y 'r e on th e l i s t why I 'm I w ill Why i s MR. McGRATH; t h a t 's T h a t'S my d e fe n s e . anybody, THE COURT; 7 8 it n o t a s k in g h e r ask h e r — r e le v a n t f o r h e r t o say t h a t o r n o t? B ecause i f th e y d e n ie d i t , Y o u r H o n o r, u s in g i t . MR. McGRATH; 10 If A g e n t B a lb o as t o o n e , a g e n t — 11 a l l th r e e . 12 a b o u t as W a lte r P e t t ig r e w , 13 e s t a b lis h e d and w i l l 14 w ill — 15 them as S -2 and S -3 . 16 THE COURT; 17 do yo u go fro m th e r e ? th e y d e n ie d — by p u ttin g in 19 THE COURT: I 'm as t o n o t as s u re th e s e . e s t a b l i s h W a lte r P e t t ig r e w W hat happens i f MR. McGRATH; a ll th e n e x t tw o , th r o u g h th e s e s u b s e q u e n t p e o p le , 18 21 I 'm MR. BELLA: 9 20 512 W e 've is S -1 . I I w i l l e s ta b lis h she a n s w e rs n o , th e n w h e re I beg y o u r p a rd o n ? W hat happens i f she s a ys n o , t h e y 'r e not th e r e ? MR. McGRATH; I 'll make s u re h e 's 22 a p o s s ib ility 23 and maybe t h a t one p e rs o n i s 24 v e r y c o n f id e n t t h a t W a lte r P e t t ig r e w 25 t h a t I have th e g o in g t o — t h a t I have m i s i d e n t i f i e d id e n tity n o t on. o f S -2 . is one o f th e s e p e o p le I 'm is th e re v e ry — i know S -1 , v e r y c o n f i d e n t

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K. PERTUSO - 1 MR. BELLA; The p ro b le m I have i s 2 c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t t h a t ' s 3 p r o t e c t h im , 4 MR. McGRATH; fo r th e ir 6 n o t a w it n e s s . 7 a l l a re . 9 10 11 If I 'm th e re is a im p o r t a n t t o n o t on, I 'm n o t g o in g t o ask I w i l l n o t ask a n y b o d y t h a t ' s g o in g t o a sk f o r — I b e lie v e t h a t th e y - THE COURT; I d o n 't know . C o u n s e l, do y o u know w h a t I b e lie v e yes, th e a n sw er is ? MR. McGRATH; th e an sw er i s t h a t th e y a re a l l — THE COURT; 13 MR. McGRATH; I 'm Do y o u know f o r a f a c t ? No, p re tty I was v e r y c o n f id e n t o f W a lte r 14 P e t t ig r e w , 15 u n c e r t a in a b o u t th e t h i r d . THE COURT; c o n f id e n t a b o u t one o t h e r . C o u n s e l, 17 o b je c tio n 18 c h ie f i f 19 have f i n i s h e d 20 me a good re a s o n f o r I am p ro n e t o s u s t a in and a llo w y o u t o q u e s t io n h e r i n y o u w a n t. MR. McGRATH; 22 MR. BELLA; it, th e y o u r case i n A ll w itn e s s e s and th e n i f I may r e v i s i t y o u can show it. r ig h t. My c o n c e rn i s 23 and I d o n 't know w h o 's i n 24 a lth o u g h i f t h a t I 'm n o t an i n v e s t i g a t o r d a n g e r and w h o 's n o t and — somebody t e s t i f i e s , MR. McGRATH: I 'm And b y t h a t tim e th e G o ve rn m e n t w i l l a ll o f its 21 25 e m ploye d i t ' s t h e y 'r e id e n tific a tio n . 12 16 th a t i f th e n — 5 8 513 CROSS DURR th e n — How come th r o u g h t h i s w itn e s s ?

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514 K. PERTUSO - CROSS DURR THE COURT; 1 I can s u g g e s t s o m e th in g e ls e , 2 w a n t t o do t h i s . 3 if 4 w a n t make a s t i p u l a t i o n , yo u w a n t t o , I 'm g o in g t o MR. MCGRATH; 6 MR. BELLA; you guys s u s t a in th e o b j e c t i o n , maybe y o u can f i n d 5 if o u t and t a l k but and i f you y o u can s t i p u l a t e . O kay. F o r th e re c o rd , I do o b j e c t t o th a t. (End o f d is c u s s io n a t th e b e n c h .) 7 8 THE COURT; 9 MR. McGRATH; S u s ta in e d . 10 T h ro u g h th e c o u rs e o f y o u r i n v e s t i g a t i o n , 11 l e t me re p h ra s e t h a t . In y o u r o r ig in a l a p p lic a tio n 12 in te r c e p t, fo r T itle III in te r c e p t, is 13 to 14 L y n e t t a D u rr among th e names o f t a r g e t s 15 a d d i t i o n a l names t h a t w ere l i s t e d it is t o w ir e t a p o r l i n e does th e name p e r m is s io n th e name o r th o s e seve n in y o u r a p p lic a tio n ? 16 A N o, n o t. 17 Q I n y o u r e x te n s io n t h a t was one m onth l a t e r w h ic h in c lu d e d 18 s i x new nam es, was th e name L y n e t t a D u rr among th o s e s i x 19 names? 20 N o. 21 MR, McGRATH; 22 THE COURT; I have n o t h in g C ro s s E d w a rd s . fu rth e r. Y o u r H o n o r. B u t b e fo r e y o u s t a r t , 23 c o u n s e l, how lo n g do yo u t h i n k y o u r c r o s s e x a m in a tio n 24 g o in g t o be? 25 MR. JACKSON; Maybe 30 m in u te s . Y o u r H o n o r. is

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515 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS THE COURT: 1 CROSS- EXAMINATION BY MR. JACKSON: 2 3 4 Go a h e a d , you may commence. Q S p e c ia l A g e n t P e r tu s o , d ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n 5 c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e s w h ic h yo u t e s t i f i e d 6 d i r e c t e x a m in a tio n , 7 w o r k in g M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , P e ttig r e w ? back to th e p r e v i o u s ly on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t who y o u w e re 8 A Y e s, t h a t ' s 9 Q And he was a c t i n g as a c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t a t t h a t tim e ? 10 A C o o p e r a tin g w it n e s s . 11 Q C o o p e r a tin g w it n e s s . or fiv e , 12 13 A F iv e — 14 Q F iv e , 15 A — s ix c o n tr o lle d p u rc h a s e s , o f w h ic h I was p r e s e n t . is I b e lie v e Q So f i v e 18 A F iv e c o n t r o l l e d 19 Q D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n p u rc h a s e s , 21 M a rch o f 1990? The June 1 1 , 1990 b u y I was n o t b a ck t o th e I b e lie v e y o u t e s t i f i e d A M arch 2 3 . 23 Q D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n b a ck t o fir s t it lo c a te d ? o f th o s e was M arch 2 3 , 1990, t h a t d a t e , w h e re w e re y o u lo c a t e d when y o u f i r s t m et M r. P e ttig r e w ? W here was I in ? p u rc h a s e s . 22 A fo u r th a t c o rre c t? p u rc h a s e s o r s e tu p s yo u p a r t i c i p a t e d 20 24 to in . 17 25 And yo u t e s t i f i e d t h e r e w ere s i x — in v o lv e d 16 c o rre c t.

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516 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q Y e s , w ere y o u a t th e L a Q u in ta In n ? 2 A Y e s. 3 Q W hat room w ere you in ? 4 A I 5 Q And who a l l was p r e s e n t i n 6 7 A d o n 't r e c a l l th e D e t e c t iv e S p e c ia l A g e n t W i ll i a m W ago ner, Tom T r a th e n , 9 s p e c ific a lly . Those a re th e th r e e 11 Q Now, w e 'r e 12 A In th e 13 Q — a t th is 14 A I 18 A 19 Q in th e h o t e l room . p o in t ? c a n 't r e c a l l s p e c i f i c a l l y who e ls e may have been t h e r e . o f c o u r s e , was t h e r e . Was P e t t ig r e w he b r in g h i s 17 can r e c a l l p u rc h a s e on th e s t r e e t . ju s t ta lk in g P e t t ig r e w , Q th a t I I know t h a t th e r e w ere o t h e r a g e n ts p r e s e n t d u r in g th e c o n t r o l l e d 15 room when th e c o n f i d e n t i a l came in ? m y s e lf . 10 th e in f o r m a n t came th o u g h , 8 16 room nu m be r. s u p p lie d w i t h a v e h i c le d a te o r d i d own v e h ic le ? He was a lw a y s s u p p lie d w i t h You t e s t i f i e d on t h i s a v e h ic le . t h a t he was s e a rc h e d p r i o r to le a v in g th e h o t e l room? 20 21 A 22 Q 23 A 24 Q 25 A T h a t 's c o rre c t. HOW much money was p r o v id e d t o M r. P e t t ig r e w On th e 2 3 r d , $600. $600. Who c o n d u c te d th e I b e lie v e on th e 2 3 rd ? on t h a t d a te — s e a rc h o f M r. P e ttig r e w ?

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q B e fo re he l e f t ? 2 A B e fo re he l e f t . M r. W agoner, S p e c ia l A g e n t W agoner, 3 D e t e c t iv e 4 may have been th e r e T r a th e n , and as I s a id I c a n 't r e c a l l who e ls e on t h a t d a te . 5 Q O kay. 6 A Y e s. 7 Q Now, t h i s 8 A N o. 9 Q W hat y o u w o u ld r e f e r t o as a p a t down? 10 A Y e s. 11 Q Can y o u e x p la in t o 12 A S u re . Were yo u p r e s e n t when th e s e a rc h was c o n d u c te d ? w a s n 't a s t r i p He — th e s e a r c h , was i t ? j u r y w h a t a p a t down s e a rc h is ? a p a t down s e a rc h c o n s is t s o f b a s i c a l l y 13 p a ttin g 14 a n y ite m s th e y may h a v e , 15 ite m s th e y may have i n 16 a re a . 17 c lo th in g , someone dow n, a l l a re a s o f t h e i r b o d y , and re m o v in g c h e c k in g t h e i r p o c k e ts f o r a n y t h e i r p o c k e ts . Shoe a r e a , sock A th o ro u g h s e a rc h o f th e b o d y , b u t n o t re m o v in g u n d e rg a rm e n ts . 18 Q T h e re i s 19 A Y e s, 20 Q Can y o u d e s c r ib e su ch a t h i n g th e re as a s t r i p s e a rc h , i s n ' t th e r e ? is . f o r th e j u r y w h a t a s t r i p s e a rc h c o n s is t s A A s tr ip s e a rc h i s ju s t th a t. A l l th e c l o t h i n g w o u ld be 23 rem oved and e xa m in e d a n d , you know , a n a ked b o d y w o u ld 24 e x a m in e d , 25 • o f? 21 22 517 Q s e a rc h e d . On M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , y o u w ere p r e s e n t d u r in g s e a rc h e s , it

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518 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 was a p a t down, c o r r e c t ? 2 A C o rre c t. 3 Q And I b e lie v e yo u a ls o t e s t i f i e d 4 It was n o t a s t r i p s e a rc h . t h a t a t r a n s m i t t e r was p la c e d on M r. P e t t i g r e w 's p e rs o n ? 5 A T h a t 's c o rre c t. 6 Q On t h a t d a y . 7 A I t 's 8 Q M odel o r b r a n d , yes? 9 A I d o n 't know . 10 Q How o ld was t h i s 11 A I have no id e a . 12 Q W hat t r a i n i n g W hat ty p e o f a t r a n s m i t t e r was i t ? ju s t th a t. Do y o u mean a b ra n d ? d e v ic e ? have yo u had i n th e a re a o f t r a n s m i t t e r s such as th e one in v o lv e d on M arch 23 o f 1990? 13 14 A J u s t p r a c tic a l t r a in in g . 15 Q Have yo u r e c e iv e d a n y t e c h n i c a l t r a i n i n g ? 16 A N o, s i r . 17 Q As t o m a in te n a n c e ? 18 A N o, s i r . 19 Q As t o 20 A N o, 21 Q As t o 22 A O n ly t o c a lib r a tio n ? s ir . th e i n t e r n a l f u n c t i o n in g s o f th e m a c h in e ry ? th e e x t e n t t h a t th e t e c h n i c a l a g e n t p r i o r 23 th a t tr a n s m itte r , e x p la in e d how t o o p e r a te 24 th a t i t was o p e r a t i o n a l . 25 p l a c in g it The t e s t i n g of it on — o r w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w . it t o use o f and e n s u re p r io r to

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519 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q O kay. Who was th e t e c h n i c a l a g e n t t h a t — me b a ck u p . 2 a g e n t, 4 o r th is le t th is tr a in in g fro m a t e c h n i c a l in s tr u c tio n ? 5 A In s tr u c tio n . 6 Q How p r i o r ? 7 A How p r i o r ? 8 Q T h a t 's n o t a q u e s t io n , P r io r to th e use o f th e t r a n s m i t t e r . I 'm s o rry . W hat le n g t h o f I 'm s o rry . 9 W hat le n g t h o f tim e p r i o r t o M arch 23 w ere y o u — d i d 10 y o u r e c e iv e 11 12 s o rry , . When d id yo u r e c e iv e 3 I 'm A th is in s tr u c tio n ? I d o n 't r e c a l l s p e c i f i c a l l y if 13 im m e d ia te ly p r e c e d in g , b u t i t 14 t h a t t im e , w i t h i n — it was t h a t d a y o r th e d a y w o u ld have been r i g h t a ro u n d a day o r so. 15 Q So f a i r l y f a ir ly 16 A R ig h t . 17 Q Were yo u i n s t r u c t e d r e c e n t th e n p r i o r on th e t o M a rch 23 o f 1990? same ty p e o f t r a n s m i t t e r t h a t was p la c e d on th e p e rs o n o f W a lte r -P e ttig re w ? 18 19 A Y es, 20 Q D id y o u r e c e iv e a n y i n f o r m a t io n as t o w h e th e r t h a t d e v ic e A 25 The t e c h n i c a l a g e n t who was t r a i n e d th e e q u ip m e n t i n 23 24 was p r o b a b ly th e same t r a n s m i t t e r . had been c a l i b r a t e d p r o p e r ly ? 21 22 it Q I 'm s o rry , in t h a t a re a m a in t a in s th e o f f i c e . d id yo u t e l l me h i s name and i f y o u p le a s e t e l l me a g a in ? you d id , c o u ld

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520 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 A I b © li6 v e I d id , 2 Q R o b e rt H a d r ic k . b u t h i s name i s R ob airt H a d r ic k . Do you know how t o s p e l l t h a t l a s t name h e re ? 3 4 A H - A - D - R - I- C - K . 5 Q O kay. And u l t i m a t e l y p e rs o n . 6 th is Where was i t i n h is t r a n s m i t t e r was p la c e d on h i s p la c e d on M r. P e ttig r e w ? 7 A I b e lie v e 8 Q How b ig o f a d e v ic e a re we t a l k i n g 9 A I t 's a b o u t, I 'd s h i r t p o c k e t. a b o u t h e r e , ma'am? s a y th r e e b y f o u r in c h e s m aybe, tw o and a h a l f b y t h r e e and a h a l f in c h e s , v e r y — 10 11 Q A p p r o x im a te ly — I 'm s o rry ? 12 A T h in . 13 Q A p p r o x im a te ly th e s iz e 14 A A s m a ll o n e . 15 Q S m a lle r th a n a W alkm an. o f a Walkman? T h a t b e in g a l i t t l e m u s ic t h i n g w i t h he adphones o n . 16 On M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , d id y o u p r o v id e p e r s o n a l l y 17 18 s u r v e illa n c e 19 h is o f th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t as he w e n t a b o u t b u s in e s s ? 20 A I was p a r t o f th e 21 Q D id yo u r i d e in s u r v e illa n c e th e tea m . same v e h i c le w i t h th e c o n fid e n tia l in fo r m a n t? 22 23 A N o, s ir . 24 Q D id y o u r i d e 25 A Y es. — d id y o u r i d e in a d i f f e r e n t v e h ic le ?

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521 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q f o r me th e s u r v e i l l a n c e A G e n e r a lly b e cause i t 4 we w a n te d t o 5 Edw ards was g o in g t o 6 it 7 w i t h h im . was th e i n i t i a l e n s u re we d i d n ' t , had been q u i t e fir s t know how M r. th in k . 10 as M r. E d w a rd s ' 11 tw o , b u t we w ere i n 12 r e s id e n c e . Q of a ll, p u rc h a s e , some tim e s in c e he had had a n y d e a lin g s e n s u re t h a t he was i n 9 c o n tr o lle d r e a c t t o M r. P e t t ig r e w b e c a u s e I We d id have th e t r a n s m i t t e r i n 8 13 te c h n iq u e t h a t y o u im p le m e n te d on t h a t d a te ? • 2 3 Can yo u d e s c r ib e th e Were yo u e q u ip p e d w i t h We w a n te d t o r e s id e n c e t h a t we had i d e n t i f i e d r e s id e n c e . th e p la c e . We w e r e n 't w i t h i n im m e d ia te v i c i n i t y a r e c e iv in g u n i t t o a ho use o r o f th e th is tr a n s m itte r t h a t was p la c e d on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t? 14 15 A I t 's n o t a s e p a ra te u n i t ; 16 Q Now, how does t h i s if we r e c e iv e o v e r th e t r a n s m i t t e r w o rk th e n , 17 c o n fu s e d , y o u can e x p la in 18 tr a n s m itte r 19 w h a t happe ns fro m t h a t p o i n t , 20 b y r a d io is it to th e I 'm ju r y . r a d io . a little The p la c e d on th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t and w h a te v e r comes i n is e m it t e d fre q u e n c y ? 21 A I assume i t ' s 22 Q Some ty p e — 23 A A ll I know i s a r a d io fr e q u e n c y . t h a t th e t r a n s m i t t e r does j u s t t h a t , 24 t r a n s m it s s o u n d s , v o ic e s , 25 m o n ito r t h a t v i a th e o th e r sounds. r a d io . it And y o u can

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522 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS I Q Is th is 2 A It's 3 Q Is 4 5 r a d io s t h a t o u r c a r s a re e q u ip p e d w i t h . t h e r e an y chance th e t r a n s m is s io n c o u ld be d is t u r b e d some f a s h io n due t o A 6 7 th e a s p e c ia l ty p e o f r a d io ? I d o n 't b e lie v e p r iv a te Q 8 c o m p e tin g tr a n s m is s io n s ? so because i t ' s a — th e fr e q u e n c y i s B u t y o u d o n 't p o s s e s s th e r e q u is ite t e c h n i c a l k n o w le d g e t o do you? 9 A I d o n 't have t h a t t e c h n i c a l k n o w le d g e , n o . 10 Q Can y o u t e l l me w h a t band o f fr e q u e n c y t h i s tr a n s m itte r e m its ? 12 A N o. 13 Q W ith r e s p e c t t o y o u r v i s u a l s u r v e i l l a n c e o f th e 14 c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t on M arch 23 o f 1 9 9 0 , was t h i s 15 tim e im peded o r b re a c h e d ? 16 A 17 When he e n te r e d th e e a r lie r , r e s id e n c e . we w ere n o t i n And as I c o n s ta n t v i s u a l 18 Q T h a t 's my q u e s tio n ? 19 A We d id n o t see h im f o r e v e r y m in u te 20 21 th in k I a t any s a id c o n ta c t. . th a t he was a c t i n g in t h a t c a p a c it y . Q 22 Was th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t d r i v i n g b y h im s e lf on t h i s d a te o r was he b e in g e s c o r te d b y someone e ls e ? 23 A He was d r i v i n g 24 Q A t an y p o i n t i n 25 a fr e q u e n c y . a c c u r a t e ly an sw er t h a t q u e s t io n , 11 in v e h i c le by h im s e lf. t im e , yo u l o s t v i s u a l c o n t a c t en r o u te to th e t a r g e t a re a ? w ith th is

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523 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 A N o t f o r a n y e x te n d e d p e r io d o f t im e . 2 Q The q u e s t io n i s , l o s t v is u a l c o n ta c t w ith 3 4 A th e r e a p o i n t i n th is tim e when yo u v e h ic le ? I m y s e lf d id n o t have t h a t v e h i c le w i t h i n my s i g h t a t a l l t im e s . 5 6 m a'am , i s Q You i n d i r e c t l y a n sw e re d my q u e s t io n . A t a p o in t in 7 th e n , d id y o u lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h M r. P e t t ig r e w 8 he e x i t e d h i s v e h ic le ? tim e a fte r 9 A Y e s. 10 Q When was t h i s ? 11 A When he e n te r e d th e 12 Q And how lo n g a p e r io d o f tim e d id y o u lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h M r. P e ttig r e w ? 13 14 re s id e n c e a t 1522 T a f t S t r e e t . A I d o n 't r e c a l l how lo n g he was i n 15 t h a t p a r t i c u l a r o c c a s io n . 16 th a n m in u te s . 17 Q H ou rs? 18 A I d o n 't r e c a l l t h a t f i r s t 19 le n g t h y t r a n s a c t i o n . 20 th a n tw o h o u r s . 21 Q It c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e b e in g a th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t . 23 in f o r m a n t e x i t e d 24 d ro v e b a ck t o A T h a t 's it was a p e r io d o f m ore assum e, y o u l o s t v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h 22 25 on was a p e r io d o f t im e , more I d o n 't t h i n k So f o r tw o h o u rs l e t ' s th e t h a t r e s id e n c e a t — Then th e c o n f i d e n t i a l ta r g e t a re a , e n te r e d h i s v e h i c le and L a Q u in ta In n on M arch 23 o f 1990? c o rre c t. He u l t i m a t e l y was — we m et h im b a c k a t

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524 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 2 th e L a Q u in ta . Q D id y o u m a in t a in c o n s ta n t v i s u a l s u r v e i l l a n c e 3 w i t h M r. P e t t i g r e w 's v e h ic le 4 re s id e n c e t o th e tim e o r c o n ta c t fro m th e tim e t h a t he l e f t you a r r iv e d a t L a Q u in ta ? 5 A N o, 6 Q So t h a t was b re a c h e d , y o u r v i s u a l c o n t a c t was b re a c h e d ? 7 A He was n o t i n my c o n s ta n t s i g h t . 8 Q D id th e r e e v e r come a p o i n t i n s ir . 9 When yo u w ere r e t u r n i n g 10 ta k e tw o s e p a ra te 11 \7ay t h e r e o r was i t 12 v is u a l c o n ta c t, the 14 MR. JACKSON: 15 the 15 MR. JACKSON: Q tim e — to th e L a Q u in ta I n n , d i d y o u j u s t a m a tte r o f m in u te s t h a t y o u l o s t COURT: COURT: C o u n s e l, one q u e s t io n a t a t im e . S o r r y , Y o u r H o n o r. Why d o n 't we s t a r t o v e r a g a in . May I ask th e q u e s t io n o v e r? Thank y o u . The t o t a l am ount o f tim e t h a t yo u l o s t o r y o u r v i s u a l c o n t a c t was b re a c h e d r e t u r n i n g 19 tim e ? A th a t. r o u te s o r yo u d i d n ' t see h im th e w h o le 18 20 s tr ik e I need t o g e t some k in d o f an id e a ? 13 17 As I to th e h o t e l room , how much r e c a l l , th e am ount o f tim e t h a t e la p s e d b e tw e e n 21 tim e t h a t he l e f t 22 and th e tim e t h a t he a r r i v e d a t th e L a Q u in ta was th e 23 am ount o f tim e t h a t i t 24 c o u rs e t h a t same d i s t a n c e , . 25 Q th e th e t a r g e t a re a as y o u r e f e r r e d to o k th e s u r v e illa n c e to u n its D id yo u lo s e v i s u a l c o n t a c t o r s u r v e i l l a n c e w i t h th e it, same to th is

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525 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 v e h i c le 2 L a Q u in ta o r was i t 3 t h a t v e h i c le Q W ould i t to 6 7 tim e fro m th e t a r g e t house t o ju s t b r ie f ly th e in t e r r u p t e d ? I d o n 't r e c a l l t h a t I had — I m y s e lf had v i s u a l c o n t a c t o f A 4 5 th e e n t i r e A th e e n t i r e t im e . have been p o s s ib le s to p h i s v e h i c le W ould i t th e n f o r M r. P e t t ig r e w to s to p , en r o u te t o L a Q u in ta ? have been p o s s ib le j u s t f o r h im t o s to p h is v e h ic le ? 8 9 Q T h a t 's 10 A Y e s. 11 Q c o rre c t? And t h i s c o u ld have o c c u r r e d d u r in g th e p e r io d o f tim e when he d i d n ' t have v i s u a l s u r v e illa n c e ? 12 13 A 14 Q C o u ld h a v e . D ra w in g y o u r a t t e n t i o n to A p r il, 1 9 9 0 ; t h a t was a n o th e r c o n t r o l l e d p u rc h a s e ? 15 16 A 17 Q A p r il 23. A p r il 23. Same p ro c e d u re was f o llo w e d p r i o r t o c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t le a v in g ? 18 19 A T h a t 's c o rre c t. 20 Q D id he d r i v e 21 A No, he d id n o t . 22 Q 23 A Y e s. 24 Q D id he d r i v e 25 A No, he d id n o t . was t h i s h is own v e h i c le on A p r i l 23? a d a te t h a t one was p r o v id e d f o r him ? it b y h im s e lf? th e

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526 K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 1 Q T h e re was a n o th e r u n d e rc o v e r a g e n t w h ic h a c c o m p a n ie d him ? 2 A T h a t 's 3 Q D id y o u p r o v id e v i s u a l c o n t a c t — o r d id y o u have an c o rre c t. S p e c ia l A g e n t R o p e r. 4 o p p o r t u n it y t o have v i s u a l c o n t a c t g o in g t o 5 o f M r. P e t t i g r e w 's v e h ic le ? th e r e s id e n c e 6 A A t some p o i n t s , y e s . 7 Q Was t h a t e v e r i n t e r r u p t e d , 8 A Y e s , be ca u se he was b e in g a c c o m p a n ie d b y an a g e n t. 9 Q The q u e s t io n — if y o u r v i s u a l s u r v e illa n c e ? can yo u j u s t l i m i t y o u r an sw e r t o my 10 q u e s tio n s 11 tim e when M r. P e t t ig r e w was i n 12 v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h h im a t t h a t tim e ? 13 A I 'm I w o u ld a p p r e c ia t e n o t tr y in g if 15 s im p ly k n o c k e d on th e 16 a t t h a t t im e , Q th e h o u s e , d i d y o u lo s e f r o n t d o o r. If to P e t t ig r e w t a k in g o f f and g o in g t o Y es. 20 Q D id y o u p r o v id e v i s u a l s u r v e i l l a n c e 21 A Y es. 22 Q Was t h a t s u r v e i l l a n c e or i f A he he e n te r e d th e ho use in te r r u p te d th e house? a t t h a t tim e ? g o in g to w a rd s th e home o r r e s id e n c e ? 23 r e c a ll I w o u ld have l o s t v i s u a l c o n t a c t w i t h h im . A 25 tr y in g f a c t e n te r e d th e house on t h a t o c c a s io n , 19 24 I 'm On A u g u s t 31 o f 1 9 9 0 , was th e same p r o c e d u re f o llo w e d p r i o r to 18 Now, d u r in g th e p e r io d o f evade y o u r q u e s t io n , 14 17 he i n to it. He w o u ld n o t have been i n my s i g h t d u r in g t h a t e n t i r e p e r io d o f t im e .

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K. PERTUSO - CROSS EDWARDS 527 1 Q Was he a cco m p a n ie d b y someone a t t h a t tim e ? 2 A D u r in g th e A u g u s t 31 p u rc h a s e , n o . 3 Q He was a s o lo ? 4 A Y e s, th e r e was no u n d e r c o v e r . 5 Q O kay. 6 D u r in g th e a lle g e d t r a n s a c t io n on A u g u s t 31 o f 1 9 9 0 , d id y o u m a in t a in v i s u a l c o n t a c t d u r in g th e t r a n s a c t io n ? 7 A No. 8 Q Or th e a lle g e d t r a n s a c t io n ? 9 A N o, s i r . 10 Q How lo n g a p e r io d o f tim e was t h i s 11 12 a lle g e d t r a n s a c t io n t a k i n g p la c e o u t s id e o f y o u r v i s u a l c o n ta c t? A T h is was one o f th e e x te n d e d t r a n s a c t io n s and i t — th is was a p e r io d o f h o u r s . 13 14 Q S e v e r a l h o u rs ? 15 A Y e s. 16 Q Was he e q u ip p e d w i t h a t r a n s m i t t i n g d e v ic e 17 A I 18 Q Were y o u r e c e i v i n g tr a n s m is s io n 19 A Y e s. 20 Q D u r in g th e s e v e r a l h o u rs t h a t th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in f o r m a n t 21 was i n r e s id e n c e , was th e t r a n s m is s io n e v e r i n t e r r u p t e d 22 fro m th e d e v ic e w o rn b y th e c o n f i d e n t i a l in fo r m a n t? b e lie v e so. th e 23 A I d o n 't b e lie v e 24 Q And d i d y o u m a in t a in a p o s i t i o n 25 t h a t tim e ? d u r in g t h i s fro m t h a t d e v ic e ? so. e n tir e t o h e a r th e t r a n s m is s io n s e v e r a l- h o u r p e r io d o f tim e ?

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