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·5· ·IN RE:
·6· ·GOOGLE ANTITRUST LITIGATION
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·UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
·Antitrust Division
·By:· Brent Nakamura, Esq.
·By:· Arshia Najafi, Esq.
·450 Fifth Street, N.W.
·Washington, D.C. ·Phone:· (202) 598-·Email:· brent.nakamura@usdoj.gov
·Email:· arshia.najafi@usdoj.gov
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·FRESHFIELDS BRUCKHAUS DERINGER LLP
·By:· Thomas Ensign, Esq.
·By:· Justin C. Simeone, Esq.
·700 13th Street, NW, 10th Floor
·Washington, D.C. 20005-·Phone:· (202) 777-·Email:· thomas.ensign@freshfields.com
·Email:· justin.simeone@freshfields.com
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·AXINN, VELTROP & HARKRIDER LLP
·By:· Daniel S. Bitton, Esq.
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·Counsel for Google, Inc.
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·Sue Majewski, Economist with DOJ
·Gordon Ahl, Paralegal with DOJ
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·1· · · ·Q. And when did you have this discussion with
·2· ·Mr. Lazarus regarding the Stonehenge program?
·3· · · ·A. I believe this was last summer, and it's
·4· ·continued through the present.
·5· · · ·Q. So you initially had this discussion with
·6· ·Mr. Lazarus regarding the Stonehenge program in
·7· ·summer 2020.· Is that correct?
·8· · · ·A. That's my best guess.· It may have been
·9· ·earlier, but that's my recollection of when the
10· ·work for Stonehenge was done.
11· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· Gordon, could you load in
12· ·the chat Document 46, please.
13· · · ·Q. So same instruction,
.· If you
14· ·could download that document and let me know when
15· ·you've reviewed it.
16· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· In the meantime, I'll ask
17· ·the court reporter to mark this document as
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Exhibit 7.· This is a document produced
19· ·by Google with the Bates number beginning
20· ·GOOG-DOJ-12766025, ending in Bates Number -6028.
21· · · · · (Exhibit 7 marked for identification)
22· · · ·Q. And let me know when you're done reviewing
23· ·this document.
24· · · ·A. Okay.
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·1· · · ·Q. So let's turn to the second page of the
·2· ·PDF ending in Bates Number 026 to the email on
·3· ·February 19th, 2020, from
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·4· ·see that?
·5· · · ·A. Yup.
·6· · · ·Q. What was the Single Click program?
·7· · · ·A. That was an assessment of implications and
·8· ·options that -- in response to potential
·9· ·regulatory inquiries.
10· · · ·Q. And do you see the line that says,
11· ·"Stonehenge will include," dot, dot, dot?· Do you
12· ·see that?
13· · · ·A. Yes.
14· · · ·Q. So is 1door part of the Stonehenge
15· ·program?
16· · · ·A. No.
17· · · ·Q.
24· · · ·Q. So that is an option under consideration
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·1· ·currently with respect to Project Stonehenge but
·2· ·has not yet been finally decided.· Is that
·3· ·correct?
·4· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· Objection.
·5· · · · · I'd like to speak to the witness to
·6· ·determine whether it's possible to respond to
·7· ·these questions without divulging attorney-client
·8· ·communications.
·9· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· Okay.· Let's take a break.
10· · · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Off the record at
11· ·1:57 p.m.
12· · · · · (Off the record, 1:57 p.m. to 2:05 p.m.)
13· · · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Back on the record at
14· ·2:05 p.m.
15· ·BY MR. NAKAMURA:
16· · · ·Q.
, have you had a chance to
17· ·confer with your counsel?
18· · · ·A. I have.
19· · · ·Q.
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·1· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· Objection.
·2· · · · · I'm going to instruct the witness not to
·3· ·answer the question.
·4· · · · · Further, the document or the exhibit that
·5· ·is currently in front of the witness contains
·6· ·unredacted privileged communications and
·7· ·privileged work product with respect to Project
·8· ·Stonehenge and Single Click.
·9· · · · · We are working on redactions and will
10· ·provide a redacted version of this exhibit to the
11· ·department shortly.
12· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· So I want to understand
13· ·this, Mr. Ensign.· On page 1 of this document,
14· ·ending Bates Number 025, Google has made a
15· ·redaction.· Is that correct?
16· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· That is correct.
17· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And so your claim is,
18· ·despite having produced this to us in redacted
19· ·form, you have failed to make other redactions
20· ·that you believe are properly made pursuant to
21· ·attorney-client privilege.· Is that correct?
22· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· You are correct.
23· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And I would like to know
24· ·what the lawyer -- who the lawyers are who are
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·1· ·involved in Project Stonehenge with respect to
·2· ·this particular communication such that it is
·3· ·proper to claw it back.
·4· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:·
, you can provide
·5· ·the name of the attorney.
·6· · · ·A. Ted Lazarus.
·7· · · ·Q. And,
, you testified, however,
·8· ·that you spoke to Mr. Lazarus in the summer of
·9· ·2020, yet this document predates that.
10· · · ·A. Yes.· So I believe my dates were probably
11· ·off.
12· · · ·Q. And this is a question for your counsel.
13· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· I am confused because at
14· ·the bottom of page 2 at the section we were
15· ·discussing, there was only business information
16· ·there, no legal information that was conveyed.
17· · · · · Mr. Ensign, I'd like to know your basis
18· ·for clawing back what appears to entirely lack
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email, any legal advice, and only
20· ·business advice.
21· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· Work product.· Project Single
22· ·Click and Stonehenge were prepared in response to
23· ·the regulatory process and the antitrust matters.
24· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And is it your position
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·1· ·today that any and all information relating to
·2· ·Project Stonehenge is properly protected by the
·3· ·work product privilege?
·4· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· I can't take a position with
·5· ·respect to all information, but with respect to
·6· ·the information contained in this document, yes.
·7· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And so my last question on
·8· ·this is, your justification for clawing this
·9· ·particular email back and other sections of this
10· ·document is that the legal advice came from
11· ·Mr. Ted Lazarus.· Is that correct?
12· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· It is work product developed
13· ·upon legal advice from Ted Lazarus.
14· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· Okay.· We will sequester
15· ·this document and await your production.
16· · · · · I'm sorry.· Mr. Bitton, did you have
17· ·something?
18· · · · · MR. BITTON:· Yeah.· I think there may well
19· ·have been and I think
testified that
20· ·that's the name he recalled but that there were
21· ·other lawyers involved as well.
22· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And how long until we get a
23· ·reproduction of this document?
24· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· We are working on it now and
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·Washington, D.C. 20530
·Phone:· (202) 598-8918
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·Washington, D.C. 20005-3960
·Phone:· (202) 777-4500
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·1· · · ·Q. And when did you have this discussion with
·2· ·Mr. Lazarus regarding the Stonehenge program?
·3· · · ·A. I believe this was last summer, and it's
·4· ·continued through the present.
·5· · · ·Q. So you initially had this discussion with
·6· ·Mr. Lazarus regarding the Stonehenge program in
·7· ·summer 2020.· Is that correct?
·8· · · ·A. That's my best guess.· It may have been
·9· ·earlier, but that's my recollection of when the
10· ·work for Stonehenge was done.
11· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· Gordon, could you load in
12· ·the chat Document 46, please.
13· · · ·Q. So same instruction,
.· If you
14· ·could download that document and let me know when
15· ·you've reviewed it.
16· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· In the meantime, I'll ask
17· ·the court reporter to mark this document as
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Exhibit 7.· This is a document produced
19· ·by Google with the Bates number beginning
20· ·GOOG-DOJ-12766025, ending in Bates Number -6028.
21· · · · · (Exhibit 7 marked for identification)
22· · · ·Q. And let me know when you're done reviewing
23· ·this document.
24· · · ·A. Okay.
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·1· · · ·Q. So let's turn to the second page of the
·2· ·PDF ending in Bates Number 026 to the email on
·3· ·February 19th, 2020, from
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·4· ·see that?
·5· · · ·A. Yup.
·6· · · ·Q. What was the Single Click program?
·7· · · ·A. That was an assessment of implications and
·8· ·options that -- in response to potential
·9· ·regulatory inquiries.
10· · · ·Q. And do you see the line that says,
11· ·"Stonehenge will include," dot, dot, dot?· Do you
12· ·see that?
13· · · ·A. Yes.
14· · · ·Q. So is 1door part of the Stonehenge
15· ·program?
16· · · ·A. No.
17· · · ·Q.
24· · · ·Q. So that is an option under consideration
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·1· ·currently with respect to Project Stonehenge but
·2· ·has not yet been finally decided.· Is that
·3· ·correct?
·4· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· Objection.
·5· · · · · I'd like to speak to the witness to
·6· ·determine whether it's possible to respond to
·7· ·these questions without divulging attorney-client
·8· ·communications.
·9· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· Okay.· Let's take a break.
10· · · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Off the record at
11· ·1:57 p.m.
12· · · · · (Off the record, 1:57 p.m. to 2:05 p.m.)
13· · · · · THE VIDEOGRAPHER:· Back on the record at
14· ·2:05 p.m.
15· ·BY MR. NAKAMURA:
16· · · ·Q.
, have you had a chance to
17· ·confer with your counsel?
18· · · ·A. I have.
19· · · ·Q.
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·1· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· Objection.
·2· · · · · I'm going to instruct the witness not to
·3· ·answer the question.
·4· · · · · Further, the document or the exhibit that
·5· ·is currently in front of the witness contains
·6· ·unredacted privileged communications and
·7· ·privileged work product with respect to Project
·8· ·Stonehenge and Single Click.
·9· · · · · We are working on redactions and will
10· ·provide a redacted version of this exhibit to the
11· ·department shortly.
12· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· So I want to understand
13· ·this, Mr. Ensign.· On page 1 of this document,
14· ·ending Bates Number 025, Google has made a
15· ·redaction.· Is that correct?
16· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· That is correct.
17· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And so your claim is,
18· ·despite having produced this to us in redacted
19· ·form, you have failed to make other redactions
20· ·that you believe are properly made pursuant to
21· ·attorney-client privilege.· Is that correct?
22· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· You are correct.
23· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And I would like to know
24· ·what the lawyer -- who the lawyers are who are
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·1· ·involved in Project Stonehenge with respect to
·2· ·this particular communication such that it is
·3· ·proper to claw it back.
·4· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:·
, you can provide
·5· ·the name of the attorney.
·6· · · ·A. Ted Lazarus.
·7· · · ·Q. And,
, you testified, however,
·8· ·that you spoke to Mr. Lazarus in the summer of
·9· ·2020, yet this document predates that.
10· · · ·A. Yes.· So I believe my dates were probably
11· ·off.
12· · · ·Q. And this is a question for your counsel.
13· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· I am confused because at
14· ·the bottom of page 2 at the section we were
15· ·discussing, there was only business information
16· ·there, no legal information that was conveyed.
17· · · · · Mr. Ensign, I'd like to know your basis
18· ·for clawing back what appears to entirely lack
19· ·
email, any legal advice, and only
20· ·business advice.
21· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· Work product.· Project Single
22· ·Click and Stonehenge were prepared in response to
23· ·the regulatory process and the antitrust matters.
24· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And is it your position
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·1· ·today that any and all information relating to
·2· ·Project Stonehenge is properly protected by the
·3· ·work product privilege?
·4· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· I can't take a position with
·5· ·respect to all information, but with respect to
·6· ·the information contained in this document, yes.
·7· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And so my last question on
·8· ·this is, your justification for clawing this
·9· ·particular email back and other sections of this
10· ·document is that the legal advice came from
11· ·Mr. Ted Lazarus.· Is that correct?
12· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· It is work product developed
13· ·upon legal advice from Ted Lazarus.
14· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· Okay.· We will sequester
15· ·this document and await your production.
16· · · · · I'm sorry.· Mr. Bitton, did you have
17· ·something?
18· · · · · MR. BITTON:· Yeah.· I think there may well
19· ·have been and I think
testified that
20· ·that's the name he recalled but that there were
21· ·other lawyers involved as well.
22· · · · · MR. NAKAMURA:· And how long until we get a
23· ·reproduction of this document?
24· · · · · MR. ENSIGN:· We are working on it now and
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